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Actually I was looking for a case, or something more rational anyhow 
So lets talk about it:
On July 21 2016 03:09 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 02:36 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 02:25 Tumblewood wrote:On July 21 2016 02:19 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 02:15 Tumblewood wrote:On July 21 2016 02:11 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 02:08 Tumblewood wrote:On July 21 2016 02:06 emperorchampion wrote:
What do you think of my response of your question about Palmar's posting? I don't see a response On July 21 2016 01:07 emperorchampion wrote:
I was thinking to look more in depth, but I think the sentence that I posted sums it up pretty well actually. I don't question your reasoning on Palmar, I question the fact that you have a read on a guy who played for all of 5 minutes before leaving. What do you think my reasoning on kruppe vs my reasoning on Palmar? afaik you put kruppe in the inactive null category. I can't imagine him being anywhere else. I'm surprised though that Palmar is a town lean and not in the inactive null category with him. Kinda meh/kinda OK is not a town lean category. I think that your reasons for scum reading me are exceptionally limited now. In terms of "posting with a purpose", it's arguably limited to the first few posts of this game, which is pretty lulz since that was my entry to this game. To me, you either have some sort of idea of my "meta" in your head, and you went with it after reading a bit, or you are scum trying to push for a mislynch (a vote already?). The fact that you're still tunnelling the same point, and haven't given any other reasons is very dubious. I can't trust you at all, and I reeally hope that you're not setting yourself up for an easy mislynch. ec do you want a case? I'll give you a case. why ec is scumsummary: 1. posting to blend in and not to push town forward 2. no clear direction in his posting (these are different points I promise) 1.Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 00:04 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:48 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:43 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information? ... solving the game is a team effort man. everyone needs to work towards finding scum, mostly because it's easier to find scum when they're pretending to make reads. no enlightenment from me, just reads. Yes but without information it's impossible to do it. I'd like to know what you think about the others players so far. players I have an opinion on: you (scum lean but having doubts) ec (scum lean) koshi (association stuff with you) I think I was screaming gracka but I don't remember why so it probably isn't important Since you're willing to step up: 1) What association between koshi and lunaticman? You mean town lean on koshi? 2) How can you suddenly forget about grack when you scum lean me and lunatic for "activity"? 3) No read on skynx? 4) Is this contributing? take this post. there's no conceivable purpose behind this because clearly nothing piques his interest (or else it would have focused on one point) but he asks a series of unrelated questions, the answers to which would not be helpful. I see no reason to make this post besides "it's a contribution". [\quote] Actually there was a point behind it, I wanted to know if you're thinking things through. You make weak reads on me an luna, but nothing on Skynx who, at the time I felt, was also making some conversational posts. Maybe rels had some conversation in there too. Felt like an odd exclusion to me. You gave no further reasoning on that point. The grackAttack point was also to check how much you had thought through this "posting with purpose" (and at this point you had not well defined what you meant about this) point, since I felt he hadn't really contributed much at that point, and feels much more "blend-iny" to me. The first point about the koshi/lunatic thing was a little bit of clarification on my end. And the fourth point was tounge-in-cheek  . So purpose to all of them. It also lead to this: Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 00:19 Tumblewood wrote:
ok, regarding that second point:
definitely looks like trying to paint me as scum for something that wasn't really scummy. also weird because I don't think ec is scumreading me. damdred was probably telling the truth on ec. Which is very defensive over nothing. Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 01:18 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 01:14 Lunaticman wrote:
There is a worrying amount of silent players Hmm in a way yeah, but also people are busy in life, so I don't think too much about it atm. I'm not really sure what to make of inactivity yet. Generally I'm not a huge fan, since on a feels level it feels bad to lynch someone for being busy in real life. But on the other hand, I think mafia can have a difficult time joining in because they feel the pressure to always not be scum read for posting some random stuff. literally a paragraph about inactive players out of nowhere
Actually I was, in a round about way, trying to suss out an opinion from him since I found it an odd post. But he never offered, guess I should have made it more questiony. Lesson learned here.
this is what I'm talking about.
also:
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I don't want to quote ec's WoT in post 299, but in 299 ec makes a big ol' case on me and then three minutes later makes a post about coffee. it shows me that he isn't concerning himself with actually pushing his reads in thread but just making a case and carrying on. you get what I mean? I get what I mean.
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in a sentence, ec is speaking without asking to be listened to, which is imo a huge scumtell.
This is actually a decent point, and I think you're right in this regard, I should probably push my points a bit more. But I figure that I will just put my thoughts out there and someone will read them to make a decision on things.
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On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread
Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential.
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On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch.
So I went from highest town (iirc) to your scum vote? :o
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On July 21 2016 03:34 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential.
I'll dash your hopes before you make the point. Yes I know those have nothing to do with this game, but it's all about how you perceive me. So you're making a meta read. And it's shit because I've never even had a town game before, so your point is totally moot.
Besides, to me you look like a mafia who all along is trying to make a case against me using the "I can't believe he's mafia again!" meme and get an easy mislynch. Which you still have not convinced me of.
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Also, sorry for messing up the format in that post I made on the previous page 
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On July 21 2016 03:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:39 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:37 Palmar wrote:
jesus 20 pages All super important content make sure to catchup 1 by 1 no actually just fuck it, if people are going to revert to the stupid spamming style of playing I'm not even gonna bother trying. http://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/dnZQAJvqMFi4gg
dammit palmar, I made such a good case against tumble too
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On July 21 2016 03:44 Skynx wrote:
No fking way is that legit?
only one way to find out 
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On July 21 2016 03:46 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:44 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:44 Skynx wrote:
No fking way is that legit? only one way to find out I can't open it...
rofl
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hint: quote his post
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On July 21 2016 03:45 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:34 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:27 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Without ever rolling town he doesn't know how to be town its simple. Even he does exact opposite of what he did its forced and noticeable. Based on this I'm putting down my vote for now on EC. Even if he turns green you will be the next auto lynch. Or rather a blue should check you during the night to save a lynch target. I will change the vote if someone comes up with a better argument for a d1 lynch. What does emperors alignment has anything to do with mine? I haven't even read him yet. Also you say what i just said is convincing enough for you to vote on ec. But i didn't say anything new or something related to his specific behaviour here. So, thats kind of a shitty vote. Why is he mafia? I think it was a good argument, and votes generate friction, which generates more content. I am totally fine voting for someone if I think the argument is good enough especially on day 1. What I find confusing is why you would demote your own arugment, that is very strange. I actually think he is fighting for his life as a townie, but the day is far from over.
I dunno if this makes sense. Why would you vote for a town person?
Also I am far from fighting for my life. I am "defending" my self from tumble because his arguments are so weak, they are leading me to think that he might be scum.
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Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that.
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On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why?
Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing.
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On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future.
Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually.
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On July 21 2016 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:34 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential. ? Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:39 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:34 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 03:20 Tumblewood wrote:
and I don't get how ec can be scum three games in a row, then act the exact same way the next game and notbe scumread Ah, this here guys was the post I was waiting for and honestly what I feel he has been trying to say the entire time. I'm glad that you finally came out and said what you've been setting up since the pregame, and even back to when we were mafia together in presidential. I'll dash your hopes before you make the point. Yes I know those have nothing to do with this game, but it's all about how you perceive me. So you're making a meta read. And it's shit because I've never even had a town game before, so your point is totally moot. Besides, to me you look like a mafia who all along is trying to make a case against me using the "I can't believe he's mafia again!" meme and get an easy mislynch. Which you still have not convinced me of. ec, I know many things I know that newb scum sucks at pretending to contribute I know that townies don't make posts with no purpose I know that, as scum, you make empty posts like you have this game and, because of this I know that you're scum. treat it like a real case and not a meme.
difficult to treat it like a real case when it's not true though :o
If you actually are town like many people seem to think then idk man
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Palmar's read list is floopier than a wet noodle.
What's the bit about not noticing lunatic but voting for him?
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On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake.
Waited with which point?
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To follow up tumble, do you honestly think that I haven't contributed this game, or have sucked at contributing?
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On July 21 2016 04:25 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 04:22 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:15 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:10 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 04:03 emperorchampion wrote:On July 21 2016 04:00 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:58 emperorchampion wrote:
Ugh tumble / lunatic feels just about right together but I don't want to tunnel on that. EC, tell me who would you vote for and why? Right now tumble because he feels exactly like a scum trying to go for an easy mislynch on me. Second you, since the last few posts you've made don't make any sense to me. And also, made me recall that tumble had a kinda ify case on you in the first place that was dropped immediately in favour of his case on me. Then you want to vote for me with some pretty tenuous logic. I'm close to starting to think about convincing other people that this is a real thing. Redirecting suspicion to the accuser is never a good call, it makes you look desperate. I am also by far the easiet lynch target. Tumble is playing well, I think he is doing a good job as a detective so far, he is generating content. I also find it intresting the way several people are defending you. Either way there are many constolations forming in the game which will benifit town in the future. Do you think that my arguments against tumble are only because he scum read me first? Genuine curiosity here actually. No but the timing is awful. In my mind your digging a deeper hole you should just have waited with that point. In IRL mafia where I play that would have been a fatal misstake. Waited with which point?
I'm a little confused, you think that if someone makes a case against you can't be suspicious of them?
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judging last game, probably not :D
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On July 21 2016 03:55 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2016 03:51 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:47 Lunaticman wrote:On July 21 2016 03:45 DCWasabi wrote:On July 21 2016 03:10 Lunaticman wrote:
My gut is telling me;
Town:
emperorchampion
Rels
Tumblewood
Koshi
Prplhz
There might be one mafia in there of course, it is to early to say,
A bit scummy:
Skynx
Gracaroni
Kruppe the eel
Palmar
The rest are blanks for me.
DCWasabi
sicklucker
nnn_thekushmountains
How are you reading Kruppe the eel and Palmar as scummy when they haven't posted anything yet. They should be null. What makes you think that they are scummy? They havent posted yet. That doesn't mean they are Mafia, it just means they are inactive. We could Policy Lynch for inactivity, or we can Lynch somebody we actually are reading as mafia. If they don't get active before the deadline, then host action will take place based on OP. If they wait till the deadline, then post low-content / meaningless things, then we can lynch them on D2 if we think they are Mafia lurking in the shadows. We do want them to be more active, but we don't want to derail the thread throwing darts at empty space. No, I agree, this is my way to encourage them to participate. And I didnt say they are scum, I said they were scummy. Of course the best lynch is someone that could exonerate several players, and EC feels like a potential one.
How will my vote exonerate other people?
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