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On July 20 2016 22:02 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 21:59 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 19:58 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:53 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 19:49 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:38 Lunaticman wrote:This post is beyond me, are you saying someone is cheating? No. How much IRL mafia did you play ? About 20 games, with around 8-16 players per game. We usually only played with the standard roles with some flavour such as Medic and Sheriff. But basically vanila mafia. Each game might have lasted around 8 hours per playthrough. I would consider myself an very vocal player but also guilable. Many games have been one or lost because of people spending to much time analyzing my actions. As I always say to myself the silent mafia is the worst mafia... but I digress since this seems very different. How did you play as scum ? I don't think it would be more than subtile differences tbh between me as a townie or mafia, the biggest thing I would say is that as mafia I would probably spend more time analzying the voting tenendcies before speaking. I would also probably try to spend time "mudding the water" raising suspicion on several players at once. I don't think I want to reveal more than that otherwise I would spoil the fun. Usually when I am mafia I make a critical misstake sometimes later in the week but they can be missed... I also have a tenendcy to change play between playthroughs just to not get to predictable. And you if I may ask? How do you play? Why would revealing more about yourself would "spoil the fun" ? I am an active player as either alignment. As town I have the most success finding scum by finding inconsistency in what they say. As scum I try to replicate that to destroy lynchbait. This man is town for sure!  haha, wow how did this read happen :D I thank you for the vote of confidence though!
did I mean you or rels?
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On July 20 2016 22:04 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:02 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 19:44 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 19:40 Rels wrote:On July 20 2016 19:38 Lunaticman wrote:This post is beyond me, are you saying someone is cheating? No. How much IRL mafia did you play ? About 20 games, with around 8-16 players per game. We usually only played with the standard roles with some flavour such as Medic and Sheriff. But basically vanila mafia. Each game might have lasted around 8 hours per playthrough. I would consider myself an very vocal player but also guilable. Many games have been one or lost because of people spending to much time analyzing my actions. As I always say to myself the silent mafia is the worst mafia... but I digress since this seems very different. 8 hour irl mafia game, oh god I would die. Half the people in the room must have hated each other by the end Yes it is quite intense and I love the shit out of it. I would play it everyday if I could. The shocks. Someone could probably earn a living by recording mafia games and posting them online.
twitch.tv
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koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me
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On July 20 2016 22:13 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:08 emperorchampion wrote:
koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me No. Mafia tends to do it in the thread because it is a post with a lot of words that puts them in the center of attention without any risk. Do you see how he used way more words than needed? Doesn't make him mafia. But I have seen mafia do it just like that.
Hmm there were a lot more words than necessary, but I don't agree with it not being risky. It just screams "hey these rolls are important to me", and I can't see a blue asking for clarification in thread ever.
I dunno, I guess on one hand to me it seems risky for mafia to post that in the thread, and on the other hand I think a vt just isn't really thinking about those things at the moment.
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palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D
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On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know.
Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol).
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On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it.
I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember!
Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? 
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On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying.
well last game you died
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On July 20 2016 22:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:31 Grackaroni wrote:On July 20 2016 22:10 Palmar wrote:On July 20 2016 22:03 Koshi wrote:I think Lunaticman has done everything a mafia does early game. Ask a simple question about the setup: + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:29 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels since no one else seems to be active right now maybe you could help me explain a bit about the roles.
"Mason and Parity Cop vs Godfather goon and roleblocker
cop and jailkeeper vs Godfather, strongarm and role blocker
Jailkeeper and vigilante vs Godfather, Goon, Strongarm"
I do not recognize the jailkeeper, strong arm and godfather.
Call somebody blue / bluehunted + is self-aware + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 21:41 Lunaticman wrote:
Well I think rels is blue based on his posts so far. One mafia usually goes active in the beginning but I dont really have any scum vibes yet.
There is probably a 50/50 red or green on both of you so far.
And what do you think about me so far? Do "serious" scumhunting on a matter that was put forward as a joke. Bit too hard-try + Show Spoiler +On July 20 2016 20:17 Lunaticman wrote:
I was expecting emperorchampion to be very active in the beginning since I spectated the last game played (the one with hilary and trump). Maybe he changed his playstyle or maybe he simply asleep.
What do you think Rels? And lastly it maybe seems like he is trusting people too much and tries to buddy them.
That all said I don't scumread you. It's just something I saw . Game is young. Is this the game koshi finally rolls mafia? A wild Palmar appears. I'm in the game, right?
is this a famous palmar mafia game??
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On July 20 2016 22:54 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. well last game you died I can figure what went down in QT even tho i can't read it ^^
last game you were trying too hard, so we had to put a end to that! In retrospect, we shoulda killed prpl cause I had a pretty good feeling he was cop, and since I was thinking you would have been dead set on kruppe/ksc in any case.
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OK so two things I've been thinking about
1) with regards to this:
On July 20 2016 22:31 Lunaticman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:20 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:13 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:08 emperorchampion wrote:
koshi I disagree with the set-up point: I think mafai wants to pm the mods or ask in QT versus discuss it in thread. Seems way too brazen to me No. Mafia tends to do it in the thread because it is a post with a lot of words that puts them in the center of attention without any risk. Do you see how he used way more words than needed? Doesn't make him mafia. But I have seen mafia do it just like that. Hmm there were a lot more words than necessary, but I don't agree with it not being risky. It just screams "hey these rolls are important to me", and I can't see a blue asking for clarification in thread ever. I dunno, I guess on one hand to me it seems risky for mafia to post that in the thread, and on the other hand I think a vt just isn't really thinking about those things at the moment. You are to cynical, I would have asked as either alignment because Im new
I left the "newbie out" when I made my post (literally deleted a sentence from my post before posting about "or he's just new so it could mean nothing"), since I was interested in seeing where he would go with it. Yes he's new, but at the same time he's also mentioned having obs'd a few games and I'm sure has read through all the guides and such. But at the same time it's lunatic's first game and he just wanted some clarification on things.
I have to equal and opposite thoughts about it: (a) townie just isn't thinking about these things right now (what the roles are, how they will affect things)---mafia leaning; and (b) mafia doesn't want to show that they're thinking about what the roles will do in the night---town leaning point. All this to say that it amounts as a null-point at the moment, but I will def return to thinking about this in the future as the game shapes up.
2) koshi has really backed off in many respects since palmar threw some shade on him/his post. Now there can be many reasons, and i don't really want to speculate too much on this atm so it's more of an observation.
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On July 20 2016 23:10 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:08 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. This is quite a serious undertaking, what are you basing this on? I have my reasons.
oh god the memes
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On July 20 2016 22:54 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 22:53 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:52 Skynx wrote:On July 20 2016 22:45 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:42 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:38 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:35 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 22:24 Koshi wrote:On July 20 2016 22:22 emperorchampion wrote:
palmar/koshi scum team confirmed, may as well just post the qt now guys :D If you were town, do you think you would be good reading skynx? pretty hard question. I know. Hmm I think in the 1 game that I obs'd I found him pretty town. I think he would have a difficult time making the kind of posts he usually makes if he is mafia. I honestly have no idea how it will pan out though since as mafia I never really put a lot of effort into "reading" people. It's a little different, I was trying to find out what people responded well to. Skynx is one of the players that I'm not really sure on, since he seems more to just do his own thing (other player is kush, who I have no idea since he never posts his thoughts lol). Could you give me your full view on him near EoD? I have this genious play to let skynx and you read each other and follow those reads. pls remember because I will forget it. I'll forget also, so paging skynx: please remember! Also you're in big trouble if we're both mafai. Or are you trying to get me to tell you if you should bus your teammate? sekret taktiks I have one tactic: bus emperor or die trying. well last game you died I can figure what went down in QT even tho i can't read it ^^
also this just finally dinged in my head, now that I remember that you're Tureky-blocked lol 
hmm elaborate scum set-up here, trying to make everyone think that you can't access qt, therefore must not be mafai! 
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On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move.
Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of?
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On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game.
ok guess I'll just afk then
+ Show Spoiler +
But to be serious, this is such a weak point that makes me want to scum read you for making it, but I won't.
wifom question for everyone: Would tumble make this point to push me as mafia, when he made the same point in our game together as mafia? Or no connection?
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On July 20 2016 23:48 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2016 23:45 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:43 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:37 Lunaticman wrote:On July 20 2016 23:34 Tumblewood wrote:On July 20 2016 23:28 emperorchampion wrote:On July 20 2016 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
actually no
luna's one post is not enough to balance out his previous posting. he's been posting but hardly playing all game. that definitely warrants a scumlean in my book. (this also applies to ec)
also if luna is scum I guess koshi isn't partners because why make a scum case and not go for the cred? shitty mafia move. Actually I've been playing the game a lot, so what's your scum lean based off of? when I say "posting but not playing" I mean you and luna are making a lot of posts but hardly working toward solving the game. That makes sense but I leave the solving to more qualified players this game. Maybe you can enlighten us with some quality information? ... solving the game is a team effort man. everyone needs to work towards finding scum, mostly because it's easier to find scum when they're pretending to make reads. no enlightenment from me, just reads. Yes but without information it's impossible to do it. I'd like to know what you think about the others players so far. players I have an opinion on: you (scum lean but having doubts) ec (scum lean) koshi (association stuff with you) I think I was screaming gracka but I don't remember why so it probably isn't important
Since you're willing to step up:
1) What association between koshi and lunaticman? You mean town lean on koshi?
2) How can you suddenly forget about grack when you scum lean me and lunatic for "activity"?
3) No read on skynx?
4) Is this contributing?
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I was hoping you would help me convince myself that you're town
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OK I'll just post my thoughts on the matter (don't worry still not contributing so you can continue to scum read me for that):
1) Your reasons for scum leans are suuper weak. Like "pushing the game forward" or whatever, especially since I think I've actually made some pretty decent posts so far.
2) You specifically include grack, saying you think he's scummy, but give no final conclusion. Yet you scum read both me and lunatic (see point 1 above) for this very weak reason; and in my opinion, his posts, at best, have been no different from mine in terms of contribution. Now if you had just not included I don't think I would raise this point this way, but the fact that you specifically included him but then give such a weak read give me some bad feelings. Also the fact that you didn't include him in this contribution umbrella.
3) This point will end up being kind of weird, since it involves something completely un-said. I have this feeling that there is this unspoken "meta" read in your scum conclusion about me. You have made it very clear the awareness that you have for the way that I post, yet no mention of it in your actual posts on your read of me. So I get the idea that either you are meta reading me, but don't want to post it cause you think it will be weak and people will jump on you for it; or you are holding it as some sort of thing for later. Again, this is pretty off the wall, but they are my feelings on the matter (probably completely wrong tho =/).
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OK new fun time activity question: favourite way to drink coffee?
I'll start, mine is black
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