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Grackaroni
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On July 26 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote: Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW. I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz. 1st DCW, 2nd Luna. What is your reasoning for SL being unlikely mafia? | ||
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Grackaroni
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Day 1: I moved the lynch from Kruppe to Kush. A bunch of townies followed me on to Kush (Koshi, Palmar, SL.) Rels was pushing for a DCW lynch instead. Lunatic and EC followed him onto DCW. DCW voted Kush because that was the alternative to himself. Prplhz voted Kush. Tumble left his vote on Rels instead of moving on Kush or DCW. I don't think Kush was an absolute lock on day 1 and Rels can be pretty convincing, so there was some risk of DCW being lynched on day 1. I doubt that anyone expressed a strong enough town read on Kush that they would have to struggle to justify voting for Kush in a pinch, and they wouldn't stand out for being on the Kush lynch. Thus if mafia DCW was up for lynch day 1, I don't think his teammate is likely to be Lunatic or EC. Day 2: I think we all remember what happened here. Lynch starts out between Tumblewood and Rels. Rels doesn't look like it's going to get a lot of traction. SL comes into the thread and is the biggest defender of TW. Prplhz makes a case on DCW. DCW doesn't gain traction, and a last second wagon forms on me from TW/SL/Skynx/Lunatic. DCW leaves his vote on Koshi. EC and Prplhz both move off of TW and come back on to save me at the end of the day. Rels vote was on TW all day since he wasn't here. Day 3: DCW/Koshi/Rels/me/Prplhz kill SL. Emperorchampion also expresses interest in lynching SL. Skynx comes out quite townie here at the end of day 3 trying to defend town!SL while me/Koshi/Rels are already on the wagon. I think mafia would probably just keep their mouth shut and hope that SL gets lynched. Koshi probably voted half the players in the game yesterday so there must have been some fear that SL would save himself at the last minute and the lynch would move on to one of them. On July 26 2016 04:08 Skynx wrote: Without quoting, Tone of your reads sound forced to me. They are too based on others opinions, your reasonings behind them, if there are any, are very very surjective. Like "if this is true, then this this and this", you're analytical in your own way but I feel like its not trying to solve the game in any way. You sheep me too much, you sheep Koshi too much. In essence I don't think you have your own opinions on anyone. This is a very safe way of playing scum. SL on the other hand feels quite the opposite. He hasn't posted nearly as much and not all of them are constructive posts but the way he posts is all genuine. He always states his opinions, right or wrong. He has mostly been wrong this game thats why he's getting scumread imo. I think I would have been in exact same position had I not been so agressive. I just think he's town this way. Lunatic also kind of agreed about SL but he switches his reads every post. | ||
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On July 26 2016 21:50 emperorchampion wrote: I mean I don't know how much more clear it could be, if town never hammers, then if anyone hammers we just assume they are mafia. Town never has reason to hammer. Hammering doesn't make Prplhz mafia. Townies do all sorts of things that aren't ideal for town. | ||
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On July 27 2016 00:25 prplhz wrote: town needs: 1) flips 2) less dumb posts convince me not to hammer myself You could start on #2 with dropping this whole lynching yourself business if you're town. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote: If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted. Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓ 1) Prplhz 75% 2) DCWasabi 75% 3) Skynx 50% 4) Lunaticman 60% 5) emperorchampion 0% 6) Rels 25% 7) sicklucker 60% 8) Gracaroni 0% 12) Koshi Maybe you are not mafia. ##unvote ##vote Prplhz This might have been the breadcrumb. I think he was the only one who was absolutely certain EC couldn't be mafia, at the very least. | ||
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Shhhhh. | ||
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On July 27 2016 02:25 prplhz wrote: amazing how you didn't address anything i said You're right. I don't think Koshi had a cop check on EC; he was just really confident in his read. If he had a green check on EC then he wouldn't have wrote in that he's not 100% sure after the GF was already lynched. On July 25 2016 00:53 Koshi wrote: I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell EC is mafia. I have read his filter AGAIN. I am not 100% sure ofc but seriously.. These guys, should repeated after me: "EC is not mafia" Especially it is beyond me that a vet like sicklucker doesn't see it. Sicklucker, I would very kindly ask that you read EC his filter and give a definitive read on him. Because I know on of you 3 or maybe all 3 are trying to get him lynched and I don't understand why. | ||
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Grackaroni
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On July 27 2016 02:07 Rels wrote: I'm caught up. prp I'm pretty convinced you're scum. You have some time to convince me otherwise (unless another terrible dude hammer again today). Not gonna vote you until I reread your filter but this is what I have in mind. I think you are scum because:
This case isn't nearly as convincing to me as your SL case yesterday. Points 1/4 are mostly just wifom. Prplhz's vote seems scummy in retrospect, but I think his story actually adds up. On July 23 2016 02:01 prplhz wrote: Kruppe the Eel is just jail keeper for now. Koshi did a lot of work yesterday, both making cases and trying to steer town in the right direction. I already said that it would be weird of him to antagonize a town Palmar if he was just going to kill him anyway. I also think he's a good night kill so lynching him on d2 seems silly. Lets lynch him in LYLO or something, okay? Skynx is going (or trying to go) 1v1 against a confirmed unlynchable townie. I assume scum isn't in a desperate nigh unwinnable situation after the mislynch so I don't think this is a hail mary scum strategy. I'm fairly town? Lunaticman is a lunatic but probably also town. Palmar, nnn_thekushmountains, both pretty green according to Race Bannon's cases. I'm going to go ahead and call sicklucker town too for now. We had the same thoughts about Kruppe the Eel's claim. I'm sure he's gonna come in here and say "I would do this as scum too" and "You would shoot as vigilante too" because that's very sickluckerish, but whatever. That leaves: Rels, Tumblewood, Grackaroni, emperorchampion, DCWasabi. So I'm just going to read into those people at some point. On July 23 2016 06:42 prplhz wrote: this game would be so much easier if it was Tumblewood & DCWasabi & Grackaroni or something like that On July 24 2016 06:50 prplhz wrote: i think tumble is a 5 and grack is at 4 It's not too odd that he made a switch when he wasn't strongly favoring TW over DCW to begin with. And there's nothing prplhz said that would have prevented him from making a switch on to me if he really wanted to save TW. Prplhz would look bad if Tumblewood eventually got lynched, but I think he could have made the switch if he was already putting that much effort into saving TW by putting out a case on DCW. Point number two is pretty good. I think mafia would want the day to be over before Koshi changes his vote again when SL is getting lynched. But hammering isn't strange for Prplhz. Look at day 2. On July 24 2016 00:42 prplhz wrote: Tumblewood at 5 votes. 1 more and it's hammer and goodbye and silence. Lunatic's story of trying to lay a trap for the mafia by encouraging wagons on Koshi/TW and then wanting to kill SL for not voting TW seems more suspicious to me. | ||
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On July 27 2016 04:47 emperorchampion wrote: I dunno I think I'm ready guys, hammer and all. I haven't seen anything to convince me that luna/prpl are not scum. Hope I'm not being seriously out played here  You wanna do luna first? Yeah I think Luna is the lynch today. | ||
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On July 27 2016 04:56 prplhz wrote: Palmar said 99.99% on d1. Based on tone. A tone he's consistently kept all the way through this game. He didn't even slow down, he just kept going. I don't know why I say this because Grackaroni knew this already and no one else cares. I think this is in reaction to when Palmar was posting his trollish logic and Lunatic kept agreeing with his points. I don't see how being "fail" indicates that he must have gotten a town role PM as opposed to a scum role PM. Palmar never saw what went down on day 2. | ||
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On July 27 2016 05:49 emperorchampion wrote: we can talk about tea if you want Ok. What kind of tea do you prefer? | ||
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On July 24 2016 19:04 prplhz wrote: DCWasabi Sl and I thought this was a breacrumb for a cop check because it was the first thing you posted at the start of the day | ||
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On July 27 2016 06:42 prplhz wrote: can someone explain this fake breadcrumb thing to me Now some people are saying that you did it to trick us into thinking it was a cop check. | ||
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