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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 17:55 GMT
#2361
I'm here folks. Will be here for next few hours as well.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 25 2016 17:58 GMT
#2362
On July 26 2016 02:55 Skynx wrote:
I'm here folks. Will be here for next few hours as well.

Nice transition, I'm going out soon ^^ but I'll be phoneposting.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 17:59 GMT
#2363
Don't ask me anything here for now tho, I will go 1 by 1 on 4 scum candidates.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 18:00 GMT
#2364
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

Here's where I'm at right now.
1) Prplhz 10%
2) DCWasabi 30%
3) Skynx 20%
4) Lunaticman 40%
5) emperorchampion 15%
6) Rels 0%
7) sicklucker 85%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi 0%

I believe I have followed the correct percent procedure! It's actually kind of weird I ended up having to lower my percentages quite a bit just to get to 200%

Switching back to SL now that Koshi has come around. If SL does not flip mafia then DCW moves up ahead of Lunatic on the percentages.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 18:02 GMT
#2365
If I die tonight GL to town. My list is probably not perfect but it should be a good place to start tomorrow and I'm very confident on the 0% people.
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 18:04 GMT
#2366
On July 26 2016 03:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 23:00 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:55 Lunaticman wrote:
is there any particular reason why koshi and grac are playing like conjoined twins?

If 2 people play exactly the same over a long period and not in the endgame it is almost always that they are both town. Never are they both mafia. Sometimes it is a mafia riding in the ass of the townie. But that can be deducted.


Anyway. Can you do the % thing? Like this ↓

1) Prplhz 75%
2) DCWasabi 75%
3) Skynx 50%
4) Lunaticman 60%
5) emperorchampion 0%
6) Rels 25%
7) sicklucker 60%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi

Maybe you are not mafia.

##unvote
##vote Prplhz

Here's where I'm at right now.
1) Prplhz 10%
2) DCWasabi 30%
3) Skynx 20%
4) Lunaticman 40%
5) emperorchampion 15%
6) Rels 0%
7) sicklucker 85%
8) Gracaroni 0%
12) Koshi 0%

I believe I have followed the correct percent procedure! It's actually kind of weird I ended up having to lower my percentages quite a bit just to get to 200%

Switching back to SL now that Koshi has come around. If SL does not flip mafia then DCW moves up ahead of Lunatic on the percentages.



Tbh is would be more clever in my opinion to do SL and then Skynx. If you assume there was 2 mafia on the grac train.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 18:16 GMT
#2367
#1: DCWasabi

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2016 05:36 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 04:39 prplhz wrote:
I'd much rather just MURDER DCWasabi. He seems to be putting noticably less deliberation into the game than he did last game. You could say that carefree reads would ostensibly point to town but it just seems like he doesn't care as much about pushing his ideas as he did the last two games I played with him.

Like just now, just 5 minutes of going through Tumblewood's filter and posting a couple of posts with a one liner smacked on them. Just doesn't seem like how he posted in the other games, he would be more inquisitive and then when he had an idea he would push it. This just seems like "you guys do whatever as long as I have some deniability for whatever's happeneing".


You are correct, I don't care as much about pushing my ideas.
That is because I am way more confused this game regarding who is mafia.
I was hesitant to even post that long post last night because I knew it would get torn down.

If you want to mislynch me, go for it.
Don't expect me to put a bunch more energy into defending myself, because I am not going to.

I can tell you one thing though, if I was actually Mafia I would be a lot more motivated to play this game and I THINK I would be more active since I would actually know what was going on.

I probably shouldn't commit to playing more games unless I feel like I can put more time and thought into it too.

Also, I have never actually played a games as Mafia either in real life (2 games) or on forum (2 partial games + this game); maybe it would be easier to scumhunt if I knew how it felt to be Mafia or if I actually knew what they try to do first-hand (not just reading a guide a few weeks ago).

I'm not going to give-up completely though as that would be a jerk-move

so yeah...


meh this is sooo wifom. "I wouldn't be this inactive if I was mafia and stuff". It's like he's just trying to find reasons not to be scumread instead of just telling whats going on. If you're busy let town know, simple.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2016 05:40 DCWasabi wrote:
You guys think Tumble is town and I am defending him, but you think I am Mafia?

That makes no fucking sense.

If I was Mafia, I would have hammered Tumble in a heartbeat.

On July 24 2016 05:40 DCWasabi wrote:
I think hes town, but I know I am town.

On July 24 2016 05:42 DCWasabi wrote:
Seriously, Tumble had 5 and I didn't switch to him, these arguements are redic.


More wifom, more of this "If I was scum" scenarios.
If I was Mafia, I would have hammered Tumble in a heartbeat.
This is almost a scumclaim?

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2016 05:54 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 05:48 Lunaticman wrote:
Rels, Koshi, emperorchampion, Grackaroni, prplhz



If Prplhz is scum, then he is secretly very good at Mafia.
Have you seen the tone of his posts where he is screaming and shit with little time between posts.

My meeting in 15 mins now.

I still think Rels is as good as any, but he is not here to defend himself apparently...


He earlier said also "Tumble is town or very good mafia", he sounds like a broken record on repeat really.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2016 01:52 DCWasabi wrote:
GRACK is the scummiest fucking scum ever born, and I'm going to show you why...

Grack is saying that Prplz probably got a red check on me, but that is fucking impossible and he knows it.
First of all those posts:

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 22:09 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm pretty sure Prplhz got a red check on DCW, so that's where my vote is going.


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 01:28 Grackaroni wrote:
Nah Koshi you're just making me paranoid at this point. DCW left room for TW and Skynx to be mafia in his list. And he's decided that he's just going to roll over today. He probably knows that he's been checked and doesn't want to reveal any information now.



Well, Prpl thought that KRUPPE was claiming cop earlier and went on a huge rage-fest about Kruppe being useless and how the real cop should fucking CC if there was one out there because otherwise Kruppe is confirmed town. Well Prpl is not going to fucking do that if he is the cop, it doesn't make any sense. He was very suspicious of Kruppe and if he was the cop then he would have CC'd... so much time passed and he didn't CC and then Kruppe ended up being the Jailkeeper, fine whatever, Kruppe was useful later.

Now GRACK was well aware of this cop business and there is no way that he forgot about it, so why does he think Prp is a cop now? **There is a more evidence for this in thread, go look, I'm just putting 1 quote**

Show nested quote +
On July 22 2016 05:55 Grackaroni wrote:
Is that a cop claim?


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:09 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:50 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:49 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:47 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:46 prplhz wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:44 Kruppe the Eel wrote:
On July 22 2016 19:20 prplhz wrote:
why shoot Palmar over Koshi when we have no protective roles

not calling Koshi scum at all, i'm more thinking that it's a good idea to reconsider most things

but they're gonna shoot Kruppe the Eel n2 so we'll have Koshi for a while


And why is Kruppe not a traitor spouting lies?

Kruppe asks of you, prplhz, where do you get your info?

because no cc?


What sort of Warren does most innocent Kruppe tap into?

i don't understand this post


What sort of adept does prplhz believe Kruppe to be?

i thought you were a cop?

i guess it's easy to misunderstand the things you're saying WHEN YOU INSIST ON OBSCURING EVERYTHING AND TALKING LIKE A LUNATIC

i need a break


Why did you think this? Because Rels said so? The Rels you had a scumread on?

Kruppe raises his eyebrow most vehemently!

You said you were an adept of truth. How else were we supposed to interpret that?



Furthermore, he is obsessed with the Palmar kill. And he appears to have bussed Tumblewood.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 03:03 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 23 2016 03:00 Lunaticman wrote:
On July 23 2016 02:52 Grackaroni wrote:
I didn't think Palmar would get killed. There's probably something worthwhile in his filter because he didn't seem overly townie.


Or that is what the mafia wants us to think, which means it is probably the reverse.

If mafia were smart they would have left Palmar alive. A bunch of people would have voted him. I would have considered it for sure. There's got to be a reason to kill him.


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 02:57 Grackaroni wrote:
The only thing that sticks out to me from Palmar is that he was one of the few suspicious of Tumblewood. It's either because of that or the scum team is just bad.


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Meh I'm tired of this. Tumble is a fine lynch and seems to have some support.


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2016 05:28 Grackaroni wrote:
If I were scum this game I would have come back day 2 to lynch Palmar because I fucking love lynching Palmar.



But then, he slips up because he is fucking patting himself on the back for his Palmar kill, that HE MADE.

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm starting to realize after all why the Palmar kill was a stroke of genius right now...


Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Town needs a leader.



##vote Grack


He ain't no cop IRL or ingame, cuz I'm green as grass Mofos.

I think part of Tumbles strategy was supporting me by the way, so if he went down there would be suspicion on me and also he may have known from my last 2 games that I am suspicious of people who are suspicious of me (probably unfairly) and tend to be friendly to those who support me. I need to learn better...


This is like so so poor. How you know kruppe being cop was impossible and grack knew it? How you draw he made palmar kill cuz of that lol cmon...

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 25 2016 08:22 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 05:05 Koshi wrote:
On July 25 2016 05:03 prplhz wrote:
can somebody put words on why DCWasabi is town?

seems like it's just a feeling

Nowhere in this game has he ever tried to put himself in a good position. Literally all lists and all reads he had were 100% wrong.

Somewhere a mafia tries to actually look good eventually, they plan ahead.

DCWasabi was able to make the worst possible post each time.



Maybe he is mafia and wanted to win with all mafia alive. But I am entertaining the idea that he is town COMPLETELY on the wrong path.



And there is 2 mafia in Lunatic/Skynx/Sicklucker


This sums it up perfectly LOL.
No way I would look this bad if I was Mafia haha.

I'm actually good at strategy games where I have perfect information, I'm a chess coach in real life!

Unfortunately in this game I have far from perfect information.


More "If i was mafia"

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 24 2016 06:10 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2016 06:08 Skynx wrote:
I'm lynching one of Koshi or Luna today. Tell me why they are town and try to convince yourself to what you're saying.

13 pages of filter is not a parameter in argument, google raynpelikoneet.


I'm changing my vote to Koshi.

I believe in you Skynx.

## unvote
##vote Koshi


I'll be back after the silent night.

On July 25 2016 09:55 DCWasabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 09:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Did you read my Lunatic stuff?


What specifically?

I'm sheeping Koshi for now.

##unvote
##vote sicklucker


Maybe not much of a tell since Koshi got so much towncred for flip but from blindvoting koshi into sheeping koshi, while saying naught of what changed his opinion.

Overall, nearly every reason behind his reads are like so weak, so non-opinion descriptive. He's just posting stuff and claiming every few posts why he can't be mafia.
Very strong candidate here.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 18:17 GMT
#2368
On to Luna, this might take a while...
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 18:25 GMT
#2369
Actually nvm, i'm gona skip and go SL first.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 25 2016 18:43 GMT
#2370
OK lynching DC or prpl is stupid. If prpl is cop, we just auto lynch DC the next day, no questions there. If he's not cop then whatever, he's greeen or maybe he's mafia, we can explore that possibility during the next day phase.

For most of this game I've had the feeling that there is 1 scum in grack/sl, and grack is certainly town (unless there was some bus going on d2). From what I remember sicklucker's arguments are that he would have given up already if he was mafai, which I don't believe, and that we should lynch DC because of red check (see previous paragraph). I'm not convinced that this is towny thinking here.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 18:50 GMT
#2371
Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.

I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.

1st DCW, 2nd Luna.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
July 25 2016 18:53 GMT
#2372
On July 26 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:
Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.

I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.

1st DCW, 2nd Luna.

What is your reasoning for SL being unlikely mafia?
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
July 25 2016 18:57 GMT
#2373
On July 26 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:
Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.

I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.

1st DCW, 2nd Luna.


I'm sorry but try to give us your arguments, nothing your saying is making sense to me atm.

How is SL town?

How am I mafia? (that wasn't already explained)
Failure is not an option
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 19:08 GMT
#2374
On July 26 2016 03:57 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 03:50 Skynx wrote:
Bah I can't do this all filters are way too long xcept DCW.

I convinced myself emperor and SL are very unlikely mafia for a variety of reasons. More than anything tho, there is no way I'm lynching them over DCW. Luna nearly everyone is agreeing on, I dunno why we don't lynch him. I'm not lynching prplhz.

1st DCW, 2nd Luna.


I'm sorry but try to give us your arguments, nothing your saying is making sense to me atm.

How is SL town?

How am I mafia? (that wasn't already explained)

Without quoting,

Tone of your reads sound forced to me. They are too based on others opinions, your reasonings behind them, if there are any, are very very surjective. Like "if this is true, then this this and this", you're analytical in your own way but I feel like its not trying to solve the game in any way.
You sheep me too much, you sheep Koshi too much. In essence I don't think you have your own opinions on anyone.
This is a very safe way of playing scum.

SL on the other hand feels quite the opposite. He hasn't posted nearly as much and not all of them are constructive posts but the way he posts is all genuine. He always states his opinions, right or wrong. He has mostly been wrong this game thats why he's getting scumread imo. I think I would have been in exact same position had I not been so agressive. I just think he's town this way.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 19:10 GMT
#2375
You are like a hyper-active DCW in this game whereas SL is a very passifist me.
I'm town and I honestly think DCW is mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#2376
Hammer.

##Vote sicklucker

Koshi

Rels

Grackaroni

All good townies, lets see who they want to lynch.

Yes, I know you're gonna get mad about this emperorchampion but I'm bored and I wanna see some blood.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 19:13 GMT
#2377
Sicklucker i just too natural to play mafia. At no point he gave me an impression that he was under pressure or anything. You see what I mean? Like "ahwell if i get mislynched too bad w/e".

I was exactly the same D2, tunnelling Koshi. This is a town mentality, scum always think twice before posting. "Can what I just posted be interpreted as scum?" He doesn't post this way, very open about what he thinks about certain people.

All these combined, I don't think he's mafia.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 25 2016 19:13 GMT
#2378
SILENCE
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 25 2016 19:13 GMT
#2379
Be careful about giving hammer on sicklucker.

If DC does have a red check on him, and sicklucker is town, then he can take that in a heartbeat since he's dead anyways.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 25 2016 19:15 GMT
#2380
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