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vorono
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On July 12 2016 09:21 emperorchampion wrote: Also just wondering, how come you don't feel comfortable leading a lynch? And also what do you mean by "a townie with a name"? i voted you for this post no | ||
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On July 12 2016 09:57 prplhz wrote: What's your mafia experience? Why do you wanna play on TL Mafia? What about that post makes you think emperorchampion is scum? i've played a bit on other sites. it, in addition to #72, sounds awkward like a mafia trying to fit in | ||
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On July 12 2016 13:16 emperorchampion wrote: I dunno if I'm buying your reads. You had the most neutral entry and now this... Mind linking some previous games? This wagon could be looking pretty comfy actually ok emperorpenguin is scum. | ||
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On July 12 2016 15:37 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Ah! A name is a name. Some have many, others have none. Say, friend (if a friend is what you are), what is your name? vorono also you didn't answer the question, i actually don't know what it is and i assume it's something specific to this site | ||
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On July 12 2016 15:08 Damdred wrote: Generally speaking I don't think slips exist to an extent. But you dc, you can go in the town pile for actually reading and trying to find something. I like you, you can be my Robin this game. i agree with this post and i think you and dj wasabi are both town | ||
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On July 12 2016 23:33 Shapelog wrote: OMG........ I DIEING RIGHT NOW XD omg....vovo...just try to get someone to look sus for not answer a question hahahahaha. Vovo....of all people...XD i'm not trying to make him look suspicious, i don't have a read on him yet. probably because of the strange posting style. | ||
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On July 12 2016 23:38 LightningStrike wrote: Rolf Shape we were asking each other the same question. So I don't know what think of it because it does seems like what Holyflare did to me in HO LY F * * * E Mafia but Holyflare is a vet though. If voro is scum eh picking on a easy target since emperor is a newbie but then again DC is considered a Newbie too because they both haven't played that many games. dude i'm a newbie not empoleon, he has like 10000 posts. empoleon looks like scum to me, you're saying "if he's scum" but nothing to suggest why this interpretation is valid | ||
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On July 12 2016 23:43 Shapelog wrote: YOU STOLE MY SHIT! Emp: nothing i've seen from him convinces me that he is town, I am going ahead and saying that. His power of postivity (aka the  posts) freak me out and seem kinda forced too me. Like he is restating too much that he is so happy/hype (or did so early on.) But, while I do have problems with him, Nothing is strongly leaning me to consider him scum other then that. Content wise, nothing stood out too out to me other then the weird meta usage. But, I remember when i was starting, and how I meta people off of 1 game as well.Voro: Vovo i....Don't like at all. He is super focus on Emp, tunneling him, not reassessing his read at all it seems, completely ignoring everything else in the thread minus early on with prp. and with Khez. Hasn't answer any questions hardly, tried to turn the interaction with Keppee as if Kepper was dodging a question and was sus for that. So, I really do not like him as of now. He needs to expand his read with new posts, or at least interact with the rest of the thread. If Vovo flips scum, Emp might be more town. If Emp flips scum, idk honestly if that would prove anything. It is so weak at this point, it reminds me of how i buss someone as scum. well i think prp is town but i'm not sure who khez is like is he in this game? didn't make any impression on me i reassessed my read and decided that i continue to be right in voting him. | ||
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On July 13 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote: Oh hey Vovo. hey man. i looked at the voting thread before coming here and i saw people voting me so i guess i have to defend myself now. | ||
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On July 12 2016 23:54 Shapelog wrote: Well, I also have probs. outside of that. Like, that comes off to me as if he is trying to paint sus. on Kruppe for not answering his question (which he did, but is irreverent to to point anyways) He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. Plus, it is so funny that him of all people is complaining about not answering questions. how the hell do you draw that conclusion from me calling someone scum, this is complete bs and reaching. He just seems to be following/pushing a scum agenda of Finding/pushing ML making others look sus. like this implies that you know that empoleon is a mislynch, and if he is actually town that is scummy af. (because my reads are sometimes wrong) there is no way you could conclude this from information a town is supposed to have | ||
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vorono
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On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote: I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. i think this is bad and you are scum by calling him scum while simultaneously accusing me for accusing him, which is just dumb and there's no reason to think that i didn't reach the same conclusion from the same evidence (which i actually did and i tried to explain my thought process). i think that empoleon's comment "so you think we're both scum" is the kind of interaction that partners will have together and you are trying to chain townies to your partner, so it could make sense for you to be scum together. | ||
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On July 13 2016 00:22 Shapelog wrote: I've hosted/cohosted both of those games that you were scum in. I know. And, you where scum. What I mean here, is that early on, you just seemed to be relating the fact that you were hype/happy too much IMO. And given your "haven't rolled town yet" it could make sense for you to do that as scum this game. Mostly Vovo's is the reason why I think so. And no so the interaction, but his push. His push on you is pretty weak now, and reminds me a lot of how i bused people (Doyouhas, TT kinda, Ikido) when i am scum. And given this is a vanilla set up, no mafia role is worth more then the other. But this relys on you flipping scum. The reason why it doesn't work necessary with you bussing him as SvS, is because your not activitly pushing him enough to get cred after it is done IMO. Which is why you bus in the first place. furthermore, if you lynch me when i flip town it gives you an excuse to townread empoleon, you can be all like "oh so they werent scum together oh well that invalidates my only point against this evidently upstanding town member" | ||
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On July 13 2016 00:44 emperorchampion wrote: Feels pretty bs/weak so I have a good feeling that he could be scum. Doesn't feel like reaction testing or anything like that so I don't know other reasons the above post feels like i'm feeling that empoleon feels his scum role pm when he makes his posts | ||
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On July 13 2016 01:28 Shapelog wrote: Shapelog too good at this game. Got one person already to claim scum. i don't like this and i think you are being deliberately ambiguous about it, especially since he was modkilled and vanilla town. | ||
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On July 13 2016 08:28 Shapelog wrote: So you did/were calling him scum? It came off to me, that because you point out the fact and leading with "also you haven't responded" it sounded like you were trying to voice sus. on Kuppe. About me supposedly knowing TMI, that is littlerly a memory copy of a description of a scum agenda. Or a part of it at least. That is a part of that agenda, and if I think you are scum, why does that not make sense for me to conclude (on Kuppe) that he is most likely someone you were trying to ML if scum? no, i misread the first part and thought you were talking about empoleon not kruppe, i wasn't calling kruppe scum and i don't know if he is or not. no i was asking him just because i wanted to know, that isn't "trying to throw shade" at all. because that was the reasoning for you calling me scum, not a conclusion. you didn't say "oh kruppe is town because vorono is trying to accuse him", you said "oh vorono is scum because he's trying to mislynch kruppe". also, because you stated it offhand as opposed to actually explaining that. this response convinces me more that you're scum because you ask rhetorical questions "why couldn't it be this? or this?" rather than actually saying what you think. Yes, I did. I don't associative read the game (or try not to, tho i will admit I do sometimes rant about it) until a scum member actually flips. All my reads are based off of what that one person did (I was heavily chastised for it in certain games.) Yes, you might of had the same read, hell, lets say even the same logic. But, your actions to me then still sounded and looked scummy. Call it bad all you want, it is something that works with me, and prevents me from tunneling into oblivion with XYZ scum team or bust. I would be confused too, if someone stated that they thought it could be S v S. I obv don't know why he asked it, other then possibly that. I never said I would think he is town if you flipped town, nor would I. Hell, wouldn't you think (given my position here) i would be forced to at least follow up on Emp's alignment based off it? Like, this is what I said: How does that come off as me saying that if you flip town, it would be Town v town in my POV? that was the definition an associative read dude. well i didn't read up to that part yet w/e | ||
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On July 13 2016 08:34 Shapelog wrote: Excuse me, but how the is the bolded relevant to this first off? That came way after the fact, and honestly shouldn't be even in the mind when evaluating that post. 2nd, I made clear what I ment by it, and can quote if asked. scum caught for wrong reasons, you think that flips can't be used against you well i just did come at me | ||
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sorry i was afk missed eod i'll catch up now | ||
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On July 14 2016 22:08 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Hostility towards the unknown is for those of either simple or malevolent nature. It pains Kruppe that a friend would display such behaviour. Though Kruppe does not despair! A firm believe in the enlightenment of all minds is a believe not to be underestimated! Patience shall be Kruppe's weapon in this fierce battle to come. And he shall wield it from a very safe distance, far away from any danger. not sure if this is a scumclaim beneath the gimmick | ||
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On July 15 2016 08:02 Shapelog wrote: Oh shit there actually are blue roles in the game? I mean... I must of been RBed. are you lying about your claim? hiding behind ambiguity is scummy and i saw no reason for you to claim at that point | ||
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tl;dr list of my thoughts: town: djwasabi, snickers, prplhz, damdred, shapelog not sure: skynx, kruppe, kelsiersc scum: empoleon, vivax + Show Spoiler + prplhz push on snickers is done in a townie way even though i disagree. On July 12 2016 13:29 emperorchampion wrote: Just happy to be playin the game also trying to get people into the thread lolI think prp was a lot less neutral last game from what I observed in obs so I'll be interested in seeing how he play out this game. I think it makes sense in the context of him coming across really scummy in the first half of day 1 last game he wants to take a more back seat roll, so I'd be willing to give some town points for that. Anyhow more tomorrow gotta head to bed meow this is a scumtell, townreading someone for wifom because he knows that prp is town. it's like, the reason that he gave is actually null and could be used to support prp being either alignment, but he has confbias from knowing that prp is town. dj wasabi townie for questioning it, damdred also townie #120 is a good point On July 12 2016 15:00 Skynx wrote: I'd wait til 2nd half of D1 to read emp. idk if this is particularly out of place for this site but this reads like unnecessary posturing, why would you even need to say this it achieves nothing why not read emp in the 1st half of d1 anyway literally me rn On July 12 2016 22:39 emperorchampion wrote: I dunno this guy stinks, but lynch me for generating 3 pages of discussion and starting the game right? this is terrible and weak-defensive, i was the only one voting him at this point On July 12 2016 22:40 Shapelog wrote: Hi Guys! Mafioso Scum (fake?)Claim for now, till I catch up. Might change it up to a town or higher ranked mafia role (fake?)claim, depending on how the thread makes me feel. shapelog seems like the kind of guy who would say things like this always to make it difficult to work out his intentions vivax entrance is... meh On July 12 2016 23:04 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Applause! Applause! Friend Vivax, you have earned a —certainly one of kruppe's favorites!— chair at Kruppe's table. Such wisdom is unparalleled by anyone other than Kruppe himself. lol wtf is this he asked some null af early game probing question that is so easily done as either alignment. completely unwarrranted read On July 12 2016 23:07 Shapelog wrote: And just gone again. And he doesn't react to anyone (or LS more to the point) of calling the Emp post Null, despite being around. I would expect someone to at least be questionable about the person who is defending/white knighting someone that they consider scum. Not just ignore it. Then just coming back 2 hours later (if he left, I mean that post came 12 mins after Emp's), and just calling the guy scum again. yeah i kind of didn't read shit lol. i don't care if he calls the post null, tone reads are subjective and i'm ok with it. On July 12 2016 23:18 Vivax wrote: This comment doesn't really seem relevant? Feels to me like you're avoiding giving a more concrete opinion on KSC even though I might have given you a good reason to. this is bs doubtcasting, ur scum bro sounds townie and eh i can understand why he would dislike my earlier posting. On July 13 2016 00:44 emperorchampion wrote: Feels pretty bs/weak so I have a good feeling that he could be scum. Doesn't feel like reaction testing or anything like that so I don't know other reasons scummy On July 13 2016 01:15 Vivax wrote: Wut. The KSC read was about Damdys convo with emc. I think this is mafia LS, too many nervous posts + he's making stuff up here imo. this post sounds wrong... the "wut" doesn't sound like a scumread, kind of On July 13 2016 01:24 emperorchampion wrote: @ Vivax: what do you make of this LS post where he answers his own question? Maybe it's nothing but it feels weird to me why would you ask this vivax is already scumreading lightning strike, it makes me think more they could be scum together shapelog trolling i initially scumread the post in isolation but eh, the rest of his play is pretty townie and i think he just does this kind of thing as either alignment. On July 13 2016 01:40 Kruppe the Eel wrote: Kruppe ponders; what happened to the infinite wisdom displayed by true friend Vivax, who is currently —most comfortably— seated at the largest and most illuminated table in the tavern? Ah, but mayhaps Kruppe already knows. Bard Vivax's song is sonorous and devout, but a song is a poem is a tale. This is merely the beginning of the tale sung by friend Vivax; twists and turns, friends and jubilations, chairs and pastries! What wonders await us, dear friends of Kruppe? Kruppe admits to utter ignorance, solemnly sworn! "what happened to vivax i expect more content"? kinda meh post after the previous one, he's only focusing on vivax for some reason On July 13 2016 02:04 emperorchampion wrote: I think it makes sense to vote voronoi atm, so that's what Im going to do. ##vote vorono what a stupid and unnecessary qualification for a vote, basically raw opportunism and he has never stated a scumread on me. only in weak / vague terms at least On July 13 2016 03:03 Vivax wrote: LS how did you know I was town in the posts after you asked me if my vote on you was a scumclaim? On July 13 2016 03:13 Vivax wrote: And you think this is a description of my scum play or my town play? Your taunts are clearly showing that you were thinking of me as town. oh god, this is such a fucking terrible "gotcha", fucking awful. this guy is scum i was right maybe nobody else sees how disgusting this is but it's just so bad. like he set up lightning swift to fall into the trap rather than being transparent about it. it's all for show. trivial On July 13 2016 04:23 Vivax wrote: Maybe you're right but if you're right then only cause you're mafia with one of them. Otherwise nobody can say that for sure. They didn't both claim the same role or anything like that. Spamming insults doesn't make you look more town by the way. In Holyflare mafia you didn't do that when under suspicion. saying "it doesn't make you look more town" shows a disconnect between vivax's opinions and the stances he posts in thread it is basically acknowledging that lightning sprite obvtowned himself by being insulting (and he did), and shoving it aside. On July 13 2016 04:50 Damdred wrote: Idk what the point of this is ls if you are town. Vivax accusations are founded on things that actually happened. If you disagree explain why he's wrong, you throwing a temper tantrum just kinda reminds me of millionaire at this point. No real reason for rage or the sudden turn in attitude from nobody will ever lynch you to you being an easy ml? even though it's wrong, in comparison this is actual reasoning for why lightning s could be scum, it's distinct from vivax's post because: vivax: "oh this doesn't clear you as town btw sorry i can still mislynch you" damdred: "this is scummy" (missed a few pages because i closed browser without saving into text file) i take back everything i said about shapelog, my reasoning was bad and i was reading those posts out of context. i think shapelog is town On July 13 2016 07:47 Vivax wrote: Not sure if I should treat LS as modconfirmed town, but I will and otherwise the game is invalid. i get why he says this but the transition is rather sudden and he seems otherwise unfazed which is scummy after tunneling him so hard On July 14 2016 07:13 KelsierSC wrote: don't care I have just hated everything you've posted vaguely townie + Show Spoiler + On July 15 2016 15:04 Skynx wrote: Either way, at least one of KSC/Snickers/emp is mafia for sure and I just don't see emperor ever being town here: Lets go by the facts to start On July 14 2016 22:51 emperorchampion wrote: I know, I'm sorry  I was going to switch near the end, but I honestly lost track of time Vote switch happened approx 30 mins to deadline (8:00 being deadline in the timestamp here) On July 14 2016 07:32 emperorchampion wrote: ##unvote ##vote nnn_thekushmountains However, he was most certainly here on the deadline. He could, if he wanted switched back to Snickers. On July 14 2016 08:01 emperorchampion wrote: Damdy what do you think about kush's scum lean on you? But anyway, why did he switched votes still? He knows his priorities: On July 14 2016 06:54 emperorchampion wrote: Personally I think that kush would be a better lynch since I didn't like his posts and I've found that snickers is straight up null so far. Like I would expect more from kush even from his low effort games. kush > snickers > vorono >> no-lynch are my thoughts atm I guess you meta'd snickers saying that he's active tho? but yet On July 14 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote: I don't see anyone :o All 5 votes on snickers were locked btw, he's never convincing them to switch. So he needs to get absolutely everyone else to switch which very hard at best as Shape/vorono/Kruppe have been away for a while and is anyway impossible since DCW was confirmed not to be there. He looks like best lynch to me before we get key information on KSC. Snickers flipping either alignment doesn't change much considering other two, where as if one of them is mafia, Snickers is confirmed mafia. If they're not, we're wasting a lynch on Snickers. i don't think it's as clear-cut as you think it looks On July 16 2016 00:36 emperorchampion wrote: So Skynx is town, there's no way mafia makes that post. But you are very wrong about me. this is comparable to the post he made earlier reading prplhz as town for pure wifom, and also a scumtell this is objectively the scummiest post in the thread! On July 16 2016 07:35 Snickers wrote: Theres no way there is not a fucking scum on me right now. These votes just pile on when 1. there isnt even a fucking case on me. 2. There has only been shitty reasons for voting me. You dont fucking policy lynch someone for inactivity day one. You dont fucking continue to go full tunnel into day two like prp is. I have a town circle right now of me vivax, slam and dc. That leaves ec,prp and ksc. I am down to lynch anyone of them today. I am also going to relook at the votes day one that piled on so easily. ec was scummy day one before the deadline. So even if that was a mistake during the deadline that sucks for him. IIRC prp has tunneled me and constantly shit up the thread. ksc I have no clue about. I also think skynx is scum I will analyze it more and give it a full post townie post, snickers is town anyway i ran out of words let's lynch empoleon? ppl are hard townreading vivax which is sad but otherwise i would lynch him | ||
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vorono
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going to place this in the other thread too but i saw people doing it here (for emphasis?) | ||
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this is blatant survivalism, notice that empoleon didn't even ask the question to start with and he doesn't even think snickers is scum it's literally a policy lynch because the first reason he gives is "for info", please raze this slot | ||
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