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And if you could give me 1-shot Vig, that would be a bonus.
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On June 20 2016 17:21 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 07:31 QuickTwist wrote:
And if you could give me 1-shot Vig, that would be a bonus. oh no
I won't be playing the same this game as last, so don't try getting a meta read on me based on one game.
But yes, I am not bad with a gun.
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On June 21 2016 09:59 Koshi wrote:
I can also make a write up of this game or coach somebody. It depends on how much BH will like to milk my ban though.
What were you banned for?
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On June 22 2016 02:06 Rels wrote:ME TOO ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Gea9ctA.png)
LMFAO. LOLOL
One of the biggest mafia sites, LOL, that's priceless.
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On June 22 2016 03:01 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2016 02:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 22 2016 02:06 Rels wrote:ME TOO Wait, if you were Robik, who is Rels? Fantasy
Indeed.
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On June 22 2016 05:18 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2016 04:11 QuickTwist wrote:On June 22 2016 03:01 Rels wrote:On June 22 2016 02:59 GlowingBear wrote:On June 22 2016 02:06 Rels wrote:ME TOO Wait, if you were Robik, who is Rels? Fantasy Indeed. Lol... I have the suspicion that you're only reading the surface.
That I am.
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On June 22 2016 07:11 Shapelog wrote:
[blue][b]Author's notes:
The following game will use flavoring that is based around Trump vs Clinton/politics. Do note, that I am not only independent (which means jackshit tbh), but I will also be most likely making fun and poking at the two individuals. I might even expand out of the 2, depending on how the game plays.
If this bothers you, please let me or Rels know.
Also do note, that if I cast someone as Donald trump, that does not automatically make them mafia. None of the flavoring will have clues.[blue][b]
Nothing better than a mafia game where the host makes fun of politicians.
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Know your role. I don't know mine.
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Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly.
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On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no?
No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO.
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On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO.
EBWOP
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I'm here, just finished up an EOD elsewhere.
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On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch?
Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke?
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On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction.
I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something?
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On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again... For fluff? What? Why? Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you. If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet. Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum.
Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth?
Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point.
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On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x
Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting.
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On June 25 2016 07:23 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again... For fluff? What? Why? Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you. If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet. Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum. Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth? Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point. Why are you defending skynx? x;
I'm not really hard defending Skynx any more than I find you being serious about the game at this point to be Sus. Skynx is playing to this sites meta and I don't know that you are.
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This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too.
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On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee
What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all.
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On June 25 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:41 QuickTwist wrote:
This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too. Is all of this directed at me? :D
Just a general comment.
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On June 25 2016 07:46 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:46 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:41 QuickTwist wrote:
This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too. Is all of this directed at me? :D Just a general comment. I feel like you're different from last game. Is that just me or do you agree to a degree? (wow poetry)
You are correct. I am playing differently this game just as I said I would. Feel free to go through my filter to confirm that I said this.
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On June 25 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. You sure, you're at 2 pages already!! 
TBH, no, I'm not sure. I tend to almost always be one of the more active players.
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On June 25 2016 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I READ THE FIRST TWO PAGES QUICKTIWST IS LIKELY TOWN
I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are:
On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO.
On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. EBWOP
How are you getting a town read on me because of that?
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On June 25 2016 08:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. EBWOP  I hard claimed to that but he didn't do anything about it.
You have to give stuff like that a bit of time. Wait till they post, maybe?
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On June 25 2016 08:12 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:55 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:46 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
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Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. You sure, you're at 2 pages already!! TBH, no, I'm not sure. I tend to almost always be one of the more active players. Do you find being an active player is a benefit? Last game it got you lynched first.
its more something I can't help when I am town more than anything.
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On June 25 2016 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:11 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I READ THE FIRST TWO PAGES QUICKTIWST IS LIKELY TOWN I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are: On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. EBWOP How are you getting a town read on me because of that? A. I'm Mafia so I have perfect information and know you rolled town. B. You're going right to the scum hunting like last game and you ahve same tone as last game although it seems you're more willing ot tkae a step back after what happened last game which is why you're deciding to be more observant rather than active htis game amirite? 
How do I know you are not more aware of this as being Mafia?
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On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.
Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.
Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn
Well if he engages with me I'm not going to just ignore him, sorry to disappoint.
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On June 25 2016 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:On June 25 2016 08:11 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I READ THE FIRST TWO PAGES QUICKTIWST IS LIKELY TOWN I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are: On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no? No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. EBWOP How are you getting a town read on me because of that? A. I'm Mafia so I have perfect information and know you rolled town. B. You're going right to the scum hunting like last game and you ahve same tone as last game although it seems you're more willing ot tkae a step back after what happened last game which is why you're deciding to be more observant rather than active htis game amirite? How do I know you are not more aware of this as being Mafia? That's why I put point A. I'm Mafia and you're not on my team so you're obv town!
you would KNOW I am Town if you were mafia.. there would be no reason to leave the obv town comment. Do you agree?
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On June 25 2016 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:
qt town for the ls tell
aka being a scrub but trying your hardest
Naw, I'm not trying hard.. I usually don't try hard in mafia. I don't think I filtered more than 1 person last game.
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On June 25 2016 08:20 Damdred wrote:
Let me be honest with you qt.
Ignore moosey for all of d1, he automatically tries to do strange things d1 do no matter alignment he can survive till d2.
Anyway art just easier to be on your good side atn
That makes him a poor candidate for being the lyncher doesn't it?
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So... are we past the BS stage or not?
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On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town
Makes me mayor Do you want to bear that responsibility? Awesome joke, 10/10 The puns are getting unbearable already. 5/7, keep growling
ftfy
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On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town
Makes me mayor Do you want to bear that responsibility? Awesome joke, 10/10 The puns are getting unbearable already. 5/7, keep growling ftfy This actually makes me think you're mafia. "Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting" *joins in on the bullshitting* Not buying it.
Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK.
So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why?
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On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:48 GlowingBear wrote:
OHAI, I'm town
Makes me mayor Do you want to bear that responsibility? Awesome joke, 10/10 The puns are getting unbearable already. 5/7, keep growling ftfy This actually makes me think you're mafia. "Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting" *joins in on the bullshitting* Not buying it. Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK. So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why? Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so. I believe there's a good chance you're mafia.
If I am serious and no one else is being serious, I gain literally nothing out of taking the game seriously at this point. So while, yes I would definitely prefer to take the game seriously, I am pretty much left out of the game if I continue to be serious while everyone else dicks around. I generally am not the joking type unless I do it to make a point. But tbh, I don't care if I "don't not strike you as a joking player" because you haven't played a single game with me. So basically your argument is based off meta that you don't have of me.
And I can say why is it Scummy for me to joke when everyone else is doing it? What if I just gave up trying to be serious for the time being since it was basically no use? You are using a Scum narrative of me without considering the other side of the coin that I could be Town just trying to join in with the jokes as a player new to this site. I said I don't really know this sites meta (don't know where) and if I start joking along with you guys you are going to Scum read me for that? WTF? How can I even play here if I can't be serious and I can joke either? I wouldn't be surprised if you used the piss poor argument that I am being serious now so that means I am mafia.
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On June 25 2016 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:51 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:46 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 08:42 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 06:52 Superbia wrote:
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Do you want to bear that responsibility? Awesome joke, 10/10 The puns are getting unbearable already. 5/7, keep growling ftfy This actually makes me think you're mafia. "Hurr I'm annoyed that people are bullshitting" *joins in on the bullshitting* Not buying it. Not buying that since nothing noteworthy has happened in the thread and I am joking means I'm Scum.. OK. So you don't "buy" that I was just playing along.. Why? On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 06:58 Skynx wrote:
I'll happily be your first muslim president. I won't stop till all red are wiped out. Who'd you lynch? Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:25 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:21 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:12 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:10 QuickTwist wrote:
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Kinda early for this isn't it? Or was this a joke? No? Maybe he had an idea or direction. I thought dicking around the first few pages is what people do here. Am I missing something? Why'd you bring up the stuff about me? Seems like it was kind of serious. Were you just dicking around then? ;x Oh, yeah. I don't like RVS too much. I am known for ending RVS early at my home site. I prefer to get things going more seriously early than dicking around, but I thought you were one of the people who like to take things light early so I'm not sure I get the pseudo kinda sorta scum hunting. I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. You do not strike me as a joking player. You weren't kidding about these comments, so clearly you want to get the game going. Your latest comment suggests an actual annoyance regarding people messing around, and then immediately after you make a pun to join in on the very thing you just bitched about, which strongly implies you were just attempting to blend in/look townie by pretending you want to move the game into the 'serious' phase without actually doing so. I believe there's a good chance you're mafia. If I am serious and no one else is being serious, I gain literally nothing out of taking the game seriously at this point. So while, yes I would definitely prefer to take the game seriously, I am pretty much left out of the game if I continue to be serious while everyone else dicks around. I generally am not the joking type unless I do it to make a point. But tbh, I don't care if I "don't not strike you as a joking player" because you haven't played a single game with me. So basically your argument is based off meta that you don't have of me. And I can say why is it Scummy for me to joke when everyone else is doing it? What if I just gave up trying to be serious for the time being since it was basically no use? You are using a Scum narrative of me without considering the other side of the coin that I could be Town just trying to join in with the jokes as a player new to this site. I said I don't really know this sites meta (don't know where) and if I start joking along with you guys you are going to Scum read me for that? WTF? How can I even play here if I can't be serious and I can joke either? I wouldn't be surprised if you used the piss poor argument that I am being serious now so that means I am mafia. My read on you not being a joking player is based on you literally saying it multiple times in the thread. There's no word-twisting going on there, nor will I scumread you for "suddenly taking it seriously". The scumread is based on you appearing pissed that no one's being serious, followed instantaneously after by a pun. The point I'm trying to make is that if you were _actually_ pissed that people weren't being serious, you wouldn't join in on the jokes afterwards. Pissed/annoyed people tend not to do that. The fact that you did suggests you're actually quite content with how things are going.
You are assuming I can't change my mind very quickly, which again is based on your assumption of how I play. The truth is you have no fucking clue what my reasoning is, which, let me tell you, is something I have heard many many times, most of which has ended up with people being suspicious of me for people not understanding my reasoning. I can and do change my mind at the drop of a hat.. you are assuming that I am a normal rational human being that acts logically more often than not. So while that argument works on most people, it is just wrong in my case. I know I am going to take heat for saying all this, and it might end up with my lynch day 1 because people are so wrapped up in their assumptions in thinking I play X way as Town. Its really fucking annoying when people make false assumption on the way I play this game when it ends in my lynch because people don't fucking understand me.
All I ask is that you ask me questions about how I play and if I can't get you to see that I might be a little different in my perspective on how I play, then its on me.
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On June 25 2016 09:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Well I just went through QT's filter on his previous game and apparently he's been lynched a lot. I didn't find anything like the tonally inconsistent thing that I pinged out though, and lynchbait rolls mafia too so eh.
Anyway, only a few hours into D1. We'll see what develops.
What the fuck is this dumb ass argument?
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On June 25 2016 09:25 Damdred wrote:
Like right now I have a small town circle of
Super, art, qt, tumble, Damdred
D1 pass moosey
So already we have a nice schmuck taken out.
Can you explain those reads?
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so lets get this cleared out of the way.
Who here thinks Art is Scum reading me based on an assumption of how I play?
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On June 25 2016 09:50 QuickTwist wrote:
so lets get this cleared out of the way.
Who here thinks Art is Scum reading me based on an assumption of how I play?
I want to push this because it sets a valid president on how to read both myself and Art going forward.
I hope people can see the reason in this, but I know its likely to get overlooked.
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On June 25 2016 10:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
nvm found it in the OP. Am i crazy for wanting to vote mah boi QuickTwist? : ]
This is likely not happening any time in this game for a couple reasons:
1) I am a new player to this site so people have no idea if my reads are good or not
2) There are better candidates who will be Town read by the time I would even have a chance at it.
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Reads:
Tumbleweed - town lean
Glowingbeer - null
Jealous - hasn't posted
emperarechampion - Null
Damdruid - Null
DoosyMoosy - Null
Cheziness - Null
Artanis[XD] - Scum lean
Jin Valjean - Hasn't posted
Tictack - Hasn't posted
Skynks - Town lean
Supbarbia - Null
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On June 25 2016 10:24 Tumblewood wrote:
QT can you explain to me your town lean on Skynx?
Last game I could tell pretty easily he was newb Scum.. not getting that vibe at all this game. He seems way more relaxed and like he isn't trying to push anything. Just a gut read at this point really.
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So yeah, just vibes on Skynx at this point.
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On June 25 2016 11:10 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 11:07 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 07:26 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:23 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:08 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:02 Superbia wrote:
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Who'd you lynch? I dunno yet, in case that was a srs question For fluff, im never lynching you til mylo ever again... For fluff? What? Why? Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you. If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet. Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum. Super looks and points to the sky and few people look.Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth? Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point. Why are you defending skynx? x; I'm not really hard defending Skynx any more than I find you being serious about the game at this point to be Sus. Skynx is playing to this sites meta and I don't know that you are. found it
If you have a point, can you make it please?
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On June 25 2016 11:21 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 11:15 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:10 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 11:07 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 07:26 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:23 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:22 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:19 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:16 Skynx wrote:On June 25 2016 07:09 Superbia wrote:
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For fluff? What? Why? Man zzz cuz i went against my instincts in 1day and we lost. You were also giving away stuff about Vivax on HF game. Basically I kill your teammates first then you. If you're mafia that is, which i dunno yet. Kinda weird to bring this up this early. Feels like some weird reason to dodge giving a read on me. x: I do expect you to give a read on me during d1 since you played with me as me being both town and scum. Super looks and points to the sky and few people look.Why do you think its weird to not have a read on you so early? What is wrong with the hypothetical Skynx put forth? Why do you say its weird what Skynx is doing so early? It looks like you are the one taking things too seriously at this point. Why are you defending skynx? x; I'm not really hard defending Skynx any more than I find you being serious about the game at this point to be Sus. Skynx is playing to this sites meta and I don't know that you are. found it If you have a point, can you make it please? This point is the super knows that the sky exists. Points to the sky and few look afterwards. Something to look at. Have you ever gazed at the sky?
Not sure what you're after. You are clearly insinuating that Sub is on to something that I took notice of.. Not sure if I would look at it that way. I was just scum hunting.
How about I ruin the moment with an ill timed gif?
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lADVqu1.gif)
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Will be looking through subs filter, however
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On June 25 2016 11:28 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 11:27 QuickTwist wrote:
Will be looking through subs filter, however Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:46 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:46 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:41 QuickTwist wrote:
This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too. Is all of this directed at me? :D Just a general comment. I feel like you're different from last game. Is that just me or do you agree to a degree? (wow poetry) poetry, absolute poetry!
This is going to sound weird (and I might have to eat my hat for this), but I have a town read on Chez for trying to substantiate a read without trying to substantiate a read.
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On June 25 2016 11:41 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 11:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:28 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 11:27 QuickTwist wrote:
Will be looking through subs filter, however On June 25 2016 07:46 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:46 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:41 QuickTwist wrote:
This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too. Is all of this directed at me? :D Just a general comment. I feel like you're different from last game. Is that just me or do you agree to a degree? (wow poetry) poetry, absolute poetry! This is going to sound weird (and I might have to eat my hat for this), but I have a town read on Chez for trying to substantiate a read without trying to substantiate a read. How do you know of my reactionary reading abilities?
I don't know YOUR reaction reading abilities, but I know of players who use similar methods. Hard for me to do that myself cuz I just aint at that level, but I know it when I see it.
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On June 25 2016 11:43 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 11:42 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:41 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 11:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:28 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 11:27 QuickTwist wrote:
Will be looking through subs filter, however On June 25 2016 07:46 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:46 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:44 Superbia wrote:On June 25 2016 07:41 QuickTwist wrote:
This site is a little funny, a lot of jokes happen here early and that is mixed with some serious comments, which is weird to me. Not sure I like the vernacular too. Is all of this directed at me? :D Just a general comment. I feel like you're different from last game. Is that just me or do you agree to a degree? (wow poetry) poetry, absolute poetry! This is going to sound weird (and I might have to eat my hat for this), but I have a town read on Chez for trying to substantiate a read without trying to substantiate a read. How do you know of my reactionary reading abilities? I don't know YOUR reaction reading abilities, but I know of players who use similar methods. Hard for me to do that myself cuz I just aint at that level, but I know it when I see it. This is no ordinary player.
There is really only one thing that distinguishes me as a unique player, which I already made a point out of in this thread..
I'll let you guess what that is.
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On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,
Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely.
Representative comes before President tho..
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50/50 that TT replaces out I think.
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On June 25 2016 12:49 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,
Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely. Representative comes before President tho.. I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go.
This would require both presidential candidates to claim, which is problematic. I can't take this seriously if you are saying they should claim this early. They could be a PR or they could both be Scum or they could both be Town.. we really don't know.
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On June 25 2016 13:01 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 12:57 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 12:49 Chezinu wrote:On June 25 2016 12:34 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 11:32 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,
Before we elect a representative, I think it would we wise to have a vote on what presidential candidate we want. Do we want Hillary or Donald? Trump or Clinton? We only have two options as the OP indicated. Based on the chosen president, the nation will be impacted. Let us choose wisely. Representative comes before President tho.. I am well aware of this fact. It is a precaution. Just imagine if we elected a representative and then decide we want to go the opposite direction than what this person stands for. Imagine the UK electing a PM who wanted to stay in the EU and then the people decided they didn't want to be in the EU. Wouldn't this person no longer lead a people who want to go another way? So, let us decide now what direction we as a town want to go. This would require both presidential candidates to claim, which is problematic. I can't take this seriously if you are saying they should claim this early. They could be a PR or they could both be Scum or they could both be Town.. we really don't know. How do you know someone here is Trump and someone here is Clinton? This insight is enormous and possibly gamechanging.
I don't know, but I know that presidential candidates were talked about in the setup talk. It could be two people who have yet to speak as far as we know. Who know's maybe they can't even talk until we elect a representative.. we just know nothing at this point..
That's why I suggest we play the game as directed and elect a representative first. *shrug*
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On June 25 2016 13:05 Chezinu wrote:
read OP named VT are blue.
Yes I saw that. TBH, I can't help but think this is an elaborate plane to role hunt.
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On June 25 2016 13:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
chezinu is probably town
Based on what?
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On June 25 2016 15:14 Damdred wrote:
Qt you think chez is scum?
I have him as a Town learn currently.
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On June 25 2016 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 10:18 Tumblewood wrote:Art, you really have to look past a minor inconsistency to see how townie QT's overall posting trend is. His play this game is characteristic of LS's town meta, and the big tell is that he responds to comments and questions that don't need a response. Consider: On June 25 2016 07:43 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
I think the idea is to fill up your filter as much as possible so no one wants to read it ecks dee
What do you mean? That is not my plan this game at all. On June 25 2016 08:11 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I READ THE FIRST TWO PAGES QUICKTIWST IS LIKELY TOWN I only had two posts in the first two pages of the game, here they are: On June 25 2016 06:22 QuickTwist wrote:
No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. On June 25 2016 06:28 QuickTwist wrote:
No, I mean last time he said stuff like "first one to hard claim Mafia gets a free pass today" and I don't see him doing that here. Also his big huge letters was a little over the top IMO. EBWOP How are you getting a town read on me because of that? On June 25 2016 08:30 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:
qt town for the ls tell
aka being a scrub but trying your hardest Naw, I'm not trying hard.. I usually don't try hard in mafia. I don't think I filtered more than 1 person last game. I don't know how to explain exactly why this makes him town but these posts (and the misinterpretations and helpful attitude present) are just never going to come from mafia. EBWOP
You would be wrong, hate to break it to you.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=7992981#p7992981
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On June 25 2016 06:18 Tumblewood wrote:I was hoping my filter would be readable note to self: skip the first pages of super's and skynx's filters
Why those two specifically? Why not others? Why not me?
On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Sub is different so far from what I remember of him early last game. He's more serious and not as prominently trolly. you mean that in the last game he was more serious, right? do you glean anything from the trolling or no?
Don't get the misunderstanding here.
On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:
wow that was exhausting I deserve a break
Follows that up with a joke, which by Arts logic would mean that is Sus.
On June 25 2016 07:46 Tumblewood wrote:emperor do you have any reads + Show Spoiler +or alignment-related anything at all or just chilling
Looks like filler trying to look like they are doing stuff.
On June 25 2016 07:48 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:45 Superbia wrote:
Oh and also this president thing is kinda cute and all but I'm going to take the free townie points and say we should drop it and play a normal game for now. We can spend the second part of the day deciding how we want to orchestrate the president thing. I have a few thoughts surrounding it but need to flesh them out. ya I agree here are your free townie points pretty obvious way to choose mayor too. choose the person who is most likely town and best at scumhunting. no real reason to discuss it now when we could be yelling at each other about who's mafia.
NOT talking about the setup could be more damaging than talking about it because we really don't know what to expect from this setup or what mechanics it could have. Looks like filler to me.
On June 25 2016 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
kind of odd that emp has so much spam already compared to last game where (iirc) he had few posts D1 and most of them were Serious Business. not sure what to expect from his town meta though.
Gives a meta read based on a single game... TBH I looking into this and didn't see a huge difference in play from one game to the other.
On June 25 2016 07:57 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:53 emperorchampion wrote:On June 25 2016 07:51 Tumblewood wrote:
kind of odd that emp has so much spam already compared to last game where (iirc) he had few posts D1 and most of them were Serious Business. not sure what to expect from his town meta though. Last game I was waaaay more stressed out D1 true, newbie scums tend to be more rigid (shape is an exception to this rule, and every other one) carefree attitude means more though when it's interspersed with actually playing the game, hence why chezinu isn't insta-townread in every game ever
Pure IIoA.
On June 25 2016 08:22 Tumblewood wrote:
qt town for the ls tell
aka being a scrub but trying your hardest
There is no tell. You have played one game with me.
On June 25 2016 09:03 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote:
Eh mafia would probably rather fit into trying to become mayor and spam about that rather than reads after initial plan post.
Plus if I want people I read as the members means I'm giving a ton of info as scum which would be bad.
All in all while it's Mafias general goal, it's a bad one in the context of what in saying nah mafia doesn't want to become mayor they just want the mayor to not find them mayorship = scrutiny
I don't think this is true at all.
On June 25 2016 09:32 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:25 GlowingBear wrote:On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.
Its good though keep it up. Actually, doesn't it look like they are trying to distance from each other? argument has gone on too long to be distancing, I'd say. either art is scum trying to lynch qt (kinda reminds me of when he attacked you in newbie xx) or they're town in a good old-fashioned shitfight.
K, so Art is Scum or Town... And?
On June 25 2016 09:37 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 09:30 Tumblewood wrote:On June 25 2016 09:22 Damdred wrote:
I think art v qt is t v t.
Its good though keep it up. maybe art feels a little too on the offensive to rule out s v t for me I actually hate this reason normally (feel like scum tend to be more appeasing) but on me it's accurate. No town points for you though. Don't think you know me enough for that! just tunnel for another day if you want to collect your townread Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 09:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Although she seriously needs to stop trying to transition into Mutalisks in ZvP. It's garbage in LotV unless the opponent throws their army like Welmu did. It was okay in HotS but not okay in LotV. yeah I know right totally
Why would tunneling be a Town thing to do?
Why make a thing out of SC when we are playing mafia?
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I think I covered the rest.
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On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Hello! I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW.
I am assuming (based off a single game played with TW) that he mostly falls under the "normal" player category. Don't get this confused with "weak" player, just that his style isn't super different or anything.
And I left a whole argument on him and all you have to say is "you're scum reading him for being a normal player," which is not my reason for Scum reading him, which, my Scum read on him is not very strong now.
I don't know how I feel about you even questioning me about my read on him in this way.. I can think of Scum doing that to paint TW to be more Scummy than he is... That should show you where I'm at in my read on him at least.
My reason for Scum reading you is based on your push on me which was largely unfounded and built upon assumptions of my play. I know I am a weird player, but when people start giving reasons I don't see myself doing, I have to admit the OMGUS comes out in me a little.
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On June 25 2016 19:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 19:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Hello! I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW. I am assuming (based off a single game played with TW) that he mostly falls under the "normal" player category. Don't get this confused with "weak" player, just that his style isn't super different or anything. And I left a whole argument on him and all you have to say is "you're scum reading him for being a normal player," which is not my reason for Scum reading him, which, my Scum read on him is not very strong now. I don't know how I feel about you even questioning me about my read on him in this way.. I can think of Scum doing that to paint TW to be more Scummy than he is... That should show you where I'm at in my read on him at least. My reason for Scum reading you is based on your push on me which was largely unfounded and built upon assumptions of my play. I know I am a weird player, but when people start giving reasons I don't see myself doing, I have to admit the OMGUS comes out in me a little. Look, here's the problem for me. A) You accuse me of an unfounded read based upon your character differing from most people. This, to me, seems the foundation of your scumread on me (or at least not asking about it) B) You proceed to use this argument on a player that you, as far as I'm aware, don't know enough about in his character to make the same judgement call. Essentially, you're doing something to TW that you scumread me for, so I'm asking what's up. My question is in relation to you, not TW.
My foundation for my read on you lies in you saying I had Scum mindset without you having a working narrative of my personality, is only part of it. The other part is fabrication as to what you thought I was trying to accomplish. I'm sure you can see how when someone gets accused of ill intent when there is none to be had there is a bit Sus.
No, I don't like you boiling down my read on TW to that.. its not the same thing. I am Scum reading TW because post 349 pinged me in a bad way. I then decided on a whim to investigate this and found there was something I could make a small case out of so I followed up with that.
I don't see how this is the same type of thing regarding your Scum read on me and my Scum read on TW. I just don't see it that way at all. You're going to have to pin point what you mean exactly - I'm not seeing it.
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On June 25 2016 20:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 19:55 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 19:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2016 19:31 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 19:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Hello! I no longer think QT is mafia. This is extremely upsetting. I kinda didn't want to let go of it because if I was right I'd feel like a dunce I'm curious though, QT, why do you have a scum lean on me? You said yourself that the reason I was scumreading you made sense for most players, and now you're applying it to TW. I am assuming (based off a single game played with TW) that he mostly falls under the "normal" player category. Don't get this confused with "weak" player, just that his style isn't super different or anything. And I left a whole argument on him and all you have to say is "you're scum reading him for being a normal player," which is not my reason for Scum reading him, which, my Scum read on him is not very strong now. I don't know how I feel about you even questioning me about my read on him in this way.. I can think of Scum doing that to paint TW to be more Scummy than he is... That should show you where I'm at in my read on him at least. My reason for Scum reading you is based on your push on me which was largely unfounded and built upon assumptions of my play. I know I am a weird player, but when people start giving reasons I don't see myself doing, I have to admit the OMGUS comes out in me a little. Look, here's the problem for me. A) You accuse me of an unfounded read based upon your character differing from most people. This, to me, seems the foundation of your scumread on me (or at least not asking about it) B) You proceed to use this argument on a player that you, as far as I'm aware, don't know enough about in his character to make the same judgement call. Essentially, you're doing something to TW that you scumread me for, so I'm asking what's up. My question is in relation to you, not TW. My foundation for my read on you lies in you saying I had Scum mindset without you having a working narrative of my personality, is only part of it. The other part is fabrication as to what you thought I was trying to accomplish. I'm sure you can see how when someone gets accused of ill intent when there is none to be had there is a bit Sus. No, I don't like you boiling down my read on TW to that.. its not the same thing. I am Scum reading TW because post 349 pinged me in a bad way. I then decided on a whim to investigate this and found there was something I could make a small case out of so I followed up with that. I don't see how this is the same type of thing regarding your Scum read on me and my Scum read on TW. I just don't see it that way at all. You're going to have to pin point what you mean exactly - I'm not seeing it. I may simply be reading into your post wrongly. I meant this part of your case on TW: Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 16:02 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 06:20 Tumblewood wrote:
wow that was exhausting I deserve a break Follows that up with a joke, which by Arts logic would mean that is Sus. To me, it sounds like you're literally saying that my logic, which you didn't agree made you scum (obviously), makes TW suspicious. I found that very strange.
I made some observations on TW's play as well as parts that would be considered a case against him. Why do you have a problem with the way I phrased that particular observation? Just because I am doing an ISO case doesn't mean I have to paint everything they do as Scum or Town. I was making an association to be used for later. Honestly, I was more trying to point out the inconsistency in YOUR play more so than what TW was doing there.
I could have just said "hey, Art, why didn't you bring this up about TW?" but I decided to state it in a more subtle way. The fact that you are bring this up to make me look bad (in a way that lightly discredits me as having a valid outlook) doesn't paint you in a good light I'm afraid.
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On June 25 2016 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm just going to let someone else deal with you because apparently asking clarifying questions is now scummy and it's very tiring. I actually think you're town but I was trying to UNDERSTAND what was going on there.
IDK, this could be a buddying comment or it could be legit or both. Not sure yet.
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On June 25 2016 21:52 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? Why do you seem so uncomfortable this game? I get you are trying to play different but you had no issue jumping in and being trolly before. I don't get it.
I am not uncomfortable though I can understand why you think so. If you are refering to me getting irritated because of Art, that is. That was legit, I was uncomfortable, but more so just irritated that I was taking heat for something stupid.
I am not "trying" to do anything. This is a natural playstyle for me. I said this before in the dead thread - I was trying something new that game. Its (that style) not something I am proficient in yet.
But I think I might know what your role is based on you asking me this.
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On June 25 2016 22:18 QuickTwist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 21:52 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? Why do you seem so uncomfortable this game? I get you are trying to play different but you had no issue jumping in and being trolly before. I don't get it. I am not uncomfortable though I can understand why you think so. If you are refering to me getting irritated because of Art, that is. That was legit, I was uncomfortable, but more so just irritated that I was taking heat for something stupid. I am not "trying" to do anything. This is a natural playstyle for me. I said this before in the dead thread - I was trying something new that game. Its (that style) not something I am proficient in yet. But I think I might know what your role is based on you asking me this.
That last part is rhetorical, I'm not trying to role hunt.
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On June 25 2016 22:40 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 21:52 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 08:47 QuickTwist wrote:
So... are we past the BS stage or not? Why do you seem so uncomfortable this game? I get you are trying to play different but you had no issue jumping in and being trolly before. I don't get it. I kinda hate this post btw, feels like art already covered this a bit with his initial scum read and feels like a parrot with trying to seem new. Maybe TT can stay in my lynch list meh nothing to smart sounding yet.
TT, you got a response to this?
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On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.
The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.
I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.
So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually. This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy. Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.
Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,
Sk might be scum, qt probably town. Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum.
Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this.
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On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.
The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.
I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.
So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually. This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy. On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.
Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,
Sk might be scum, qt probably town. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum. Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this. You mean this? Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly?
Nope, I don't mean that, try again.
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On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.
The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.
I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.
So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually. This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy. On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.
Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,
Sk might be scum, qt probably town. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum. Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this. You mean this? On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly? Nope, I don't mean that, try again. Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter.
the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT.
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On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.
The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.
I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.
So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually. This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy. On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.
Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,
Sk might be scum, qt probably town. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum. Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this. You mean this? On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly? Nope, I don't mean that, try again. Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter. the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT. Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? ?????
Do me a favor and link the post in question.
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On June 26 2016 02:42 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 23:29 Tictock wrote:
Yea I think I'm just gunna ignore discussing my townreads today.
I still want to lynch between Art and Damdred on the grounds that they are throwing out super lazy townreads and pushing fairly shitty scumreads. I like you. One of us should be pres.
Says no presidential candidate ever.
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On June 26 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:08 Tictock wrote:On June 25 2016 12:48 Damdred wrote:
Just a couple, your initial response to my opening post was good and showed you were reading carefully.
The post about art/qt about distancing while I disagreed showed a nice jumping around logic and looking at things from different hard to see angles.
I'm fact I don't think mafia GB makes that post especially going after art who is almost impossible to Lynch as town.
So yeah just some fun thinking from you. I think your town actually. This is your most developed read that you gave out, everything else was super hand wavy. On June 25 2016 06:58 Damdred wrote:
Because I think if I try to rub for mayor I'd get to wrapped up in that instead of hunting scum early. If people want to vote me I'd make decent decisions though.
Super knee jerk town.
GB knee jerk scum! They can't bear the responsibility On June 25 2016 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Hrmph halfway being ignored sadness,
Sk might be scum, qt probably town. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? And plz, "...beat most of the game to the same reads" doesn't mean jack especially kus you are prob scum. Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this. You mean this? On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly? Nope, I don't mean that, try again. Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter. the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? ????? Do me a favor and link the post in question. Are you fo real? You said underlined part: Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up.
Its my mistake (well, TL's really). The post says it was made 19 hours ago on June 25th. Unfortunately I thought that was impossible since the timestamp says 8:00. So I went back to 8:00 AM and could not for the life of me find the quote. That would have been 5 hours ago my time at 8:00 AM. In short, the timestamps don't work like they should at this site. Will go back a check to make sure I am on the right forum time.
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Who I will not be voting for:
Moosy
Damdred
TT
Art
Chez (possibly)
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On June 26 2016 04:07 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 03:21 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 03:08 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 03:00 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 02:47 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 02:45 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 02:34 Skynx wrote:On June 26 2016 00:56 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 00:43 Tictock wrote:On June 26 2016 00:36 QuickTwist wrote:
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Fake quote is fake. I don't see a good Town reason to do this. You mean this? On June 25 2016 23:50 Damdred wrote:
How am i pushing shitty scum reads again?
Why are my townreads super lazy again when i've beat most of the game to the same reads exactly? Nope, I don't mean that, try again. Which one you mean QT you gotta be more clear. All three quotes look fine to me from Damdreds filter. the underlined part. did you catch whos up to misquoting mischief? I'll give you a hint. Its TT. On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? ????? Do me a favor and link the post in question. Are you fo real? You said underlined part: On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? On June 25 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Mannn I feel like I need to lay down.
I'm town reading tumble now, what the hell is wrong with me. Watch him pop scum or some shit make me look like a trad.
Any way qt can you give me your impression of emperors catching up posts? If you don't precisely explain what you mean in the reply I'm just gona assume you're making shit up. Its my mistake (well, TL's really). The post says it was made 19 hours ago on June 25th. Unfortunately I thought that was impossible since the timestamp says 8:00. So I went back to 8:00 AM and could not for the life of me find the quote. That would have been 5 hours ago my time at 8:00 AM. In short, the timestamps don't work like they should at this site. Will go back a check to make sure I am on the right forum time. TL takes korean time as basis but still that's quite agressive for something that would barely change anything. You're reading too much into things. Anyway, Show nested quote +On June 25 2016 10:01 QuickTwist wrote:On June 25 2016 09:50 QuickTwist wrote:
so lets get this cleared out of the way.
Who here thinks Art is Scum reading me based on an assumption of how I play? I want to push this because it sets a valid president on how to read both myself and Art going forward. I hope people can see the reason in this, but I know its likely to get overlooked. I've put my opinion on this, do you have something to say on the matter? cuz I see you totally changed your mind on art's alignment now: + Show Spoiler +On June 25 2016 10:14 QuickTwist wrote:
Reads:
Tumbleweed - town lean
Glowingbeer - null
Jealous - hasn't posted
emperarechampion - Null
Damdruid - Null
DoosyMoosy - Null
Cheziness - Null
Artanis[XD] - Scum lean
Jin Valjean - Hasn't posted
Tictack - Hasn't posted
Skynks - Town lean
Supbarbia - Null On June 26 2016 03:32 QuickTwist wrote:
Who I will not be voting for:
Moosy
Damdred
TT
Art
Chez (possibly) He was your only scumread but now one of your most tr's? What made you change your opinion on me and Tumbel? Well, actually you'd just better off just explain that list as a whole
Nope, those are my reads for people I will not be voting to execute the lynch. I still have Art as a Scum lean and don't want him to be the lyncher because of that.
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K, I'm here at the bottom of page 31.
Prolly won't directly quote anything but will keep in mind what I come across.
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On June 26 2016 12:44 Tumblewood wrote:
gb, if you had straight null on someone, that's 10/13 = about 77% town. choosing between 77% town who is good and 100% town who is not, 77% of the time the first guy is the better play.
consider someone who you read town. move it up to 85% or 90% town. nearly every time, putting them in mayor is the correct play. I have a 90% read on super so yeah easy choice.
OK, this is a pet peeve of mine. Don't use numbers unless you know what you are doing with them. Throwing out percentages like this is just bad form IMO.
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On June 26 2016 17:19 Superbia wrote:
QT can you elaborate on that post when you read this? Why were you so angry?
OK, there are a couple reasons for it.
1) I have been lynched a lot day one in my day and I am sick and tired of getting Scum read every game regardless of if I'm Town or Scum.
2) There is also another reason outside of this game for why I was kinda peeved at the time which contributed to me looking more upset than I prolly should have been.
3) I AM in fact playing different this game than last and if people can't see that IDK WTF is wrong with you. I didn't even like people Town reading me for it in fact.
4) Arts push was beyond unfounded based on me as a player and I took issue with that. Its virtually the same kind of reasoning every time I get Scum read which is almost always because of an oddity in playstyle.
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On June 26 2016 18:18 Superbia wrote:
A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:
I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.
Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.
Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?
Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly?
This post sucks and I'm Scum reading you for it.
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On June 26 2016 18:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2016 18:48 Jean Valjean wrote:On June 26 2016 18:27 Superbia wrote:
Also why do you think artanis is mafia? Because I have trouble believing that Artanis' approach to just about anything this game is even half genuine. In the initial stages he was joking around, but uncharacteristically he wasn't really funny at all. He is a funny guy so it is actually suspicious when he tries to be funny but is only marginally funny. This might mean that he was making jokes not because he felt like making jokes, but rather because he thought it would be a good idea to make jokes for other reasons. Weak, but I can see it. Show nested quote +Secondly I liked Skynx's case on Artanis, and I did not like Artanis' response to it. Skynx doesn't prove Artanis is mafia with that case, but he does bring up some justifiable points about Artanis' approach to the game. Most notably the stiffness in his transition from joking to what was a fairly weak attack on QT. I was the first person to actually get the game rolling. I also felt like I saw something and switched gears because of it. I tend to do that in all my games as either alignment. Show nested quote +Artanis responded by dismissing the case and throwing a townread Skynx's way, I do not disagree with the sentiment that Skynx looks a lot better for casing Artanis, but the dismissal of the case was done in a way I don't believe a veteran player would dismiss a case. Artanis should have explained why the things he did don't make him mafia, instead of just semi-ridiculing the case. Ridiculing accusations is a sign of weakness. The problem with his case is that it was simply an interpretation of events that could be viewed in multiple ways. I showed him another way and he said I was twisting the case, which I really wasn't since it came down to narrative. Show nested quote +Thirdly, he called me out for doing little. As I have already explained, I had no real problem with him throwing a scumread my way, but he did it for the wrong reason. Then afterwards he claimed he had done it to "rile me up" while then also claiming his initial reason was valid. I don't believe Artanis genuinely thinks that he was riling me up. When he made an off-hand comment on me and threw me on a list he was barely targeting me at all and had no idea I would actually respond to him, given my lack of contributions at that point in the game. I think it's much more likely he saw an easy opportunity to sort of call someone out that would possibly not bother to really respond to him, giving him an easy and uncontroversial scumlean. This is all interpretation. I'm playing freely, doing as I please and I usually have fun when I'm playing town. You called out someone which I felt was unjustly so I played the ball back at you. That was the main reason I did it; the very light scumread was because of the reason I stated: commenting on things without having read all of it, and I had already indicated it was very weak. Show nested quote +Lastly, Artanis has thrown around townreads with way too much confidence this game. Chezinu, Damdred, Skynx, QT all got pretty hard townreads from him for relatively flimsy reasons. I just have a hard time believing he is actually working through the scenarios to reach a conclusion, feels like he is just throwing something out there and running with it. I explained the Chez read pregame. I've hard townread Damdred since the beginning because he feels like he's playing freely. He gave me a townread and when asked he instantly said it was basically so we wouldn't fight or something to that accord. I just don't think he instantly says something like that as mafia. It indicates he isn't bothered by how people see him. Skynx and QT are newbies and the paranoia and genuineness I see in them I think would be extremely hard to fake for newbies. I'm very confident in both those reads for good reasons.
These arguments Art is bringing up just reeks of Scum.
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On June 26 2016 19:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yeah 100% lynching Jean if I become mayor.
This is the worst thing you have said all game.
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On June 26 2016 20:25 Jean Valjean wrote:Hence, your primary category is "Null". If you would like for me to change my read on you, start finding mafia and you shall be swiftly rewarded. Go through someone's filter, build a case. You're not pushing anyone, you're not doing anything decisive. Even if I'm completely wrong on Artanis, I'm building a case, presenting evidence and pushing things forward in a way that will help the game. You're at best on the sidelines asking marginally relevant questions and providing uninteresting oneliners about people's alignment I barely even know who you think is mafia or who you want to lynch, yet you're a candidate for the mayoral office? How do you expect to win votes like that? Convince me on something, hell convince me Artanis is town, and I'll gladly throw my vote behind you. But as of now you deserve very little. You have 5 pages of filter and I can't even remember you calling anyone strongly mafia.
This is a great post. Even tho Jean has some good posts this game this has to be one of the better ones.
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On June 26 2016 23:44 Damdred wrote:
If you mean my super early town circle of
Art, Damdred, tumble, super, chez
Chez just seemed to be read I,g and thinking about the game and pointed out some setup things I think only he would do as town. He is chez and is my friend won't lynch! Really though it's town sided for him to do those things.
Tumble was a total tone read early, since then he's been super active. He's been pushing different angles and seemingly is trying to figure out people's alignments while 're evaluating when new things cone up. Pretty sure town
Super was the decent amount of posting early and the prodding towards people while,not over reacting when told to wait on things. Also him trying to organize today points to town as well and hi a general activity.
Art is just town at this point though. Super active pushing things he seemingly believes. It was the sane early as well, his little retaliation towards Jean feels like town art as well as he is vindictive if you call him scum. Which is part of the reason for,ny early tr I wanted to work with him.
My gb read is explained in my filter earlier and I still stick with it. The only real problem I have is a lack of reads later in the day. But that's nai a for him, overall still town.
Any direct questions that I need to expand on these people is ok.
And atm I kind of want to lynch jealous.
The reasoning for this lynch is that his activity is still super low eleven though we've been in the game what over 36 hours? His one post of actual content actually seems like tmi especially towards art to me. Just seems strange never playing with art and just coming away he's town without any paranoia.
S far he's my lynch but still reading a couple
Not thrilled about this post at all. I find your reasoning behind Super to be especially weak. I don't like your stance on Art as well. Art seems more defensive than anything.
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On June 27 2016 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm very tired of everyone tunneling onto me for poor reasoning and twisting everything I say to fit the view that they've already created on me and never reconsider. Just lynch me D1 so that you can get to actually finding mafia.
I'd advise looking into TT and the people who have been fairly absent. Maaybe Superbia. As for Jean, I've already told you exactly why I think TT is mafia.
##Vote Jean Valjean
This post makes me think you might just be Town. I've been ruminating the possibility that you just got a bad start with me and I think I took it too seriously when you said you never get mislynched as Town. That was a key thing I was looking at with you. Turns out you might not be lynched as Town cuz your mafia game is just shit bad.
I'm still on the fence about you in all honesty, but I'm starting to think it might be possible for you to be Town at this point.
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OK I am caught up.
My Reads are as follows:
Town:
GB - He has an awesome level of good reaction to both town reads on him and Scum reads on him. Debating whether to vote him or not
Jean - He said there is no reason to Scum read him and he is absolutely correct on that. Would consider for Mayor
Skynks - He has been playing really well for a newbie as Town this game. Don't know that I like him for Mayor, but its a strong town read at least.
Town lean:
TT- I think I can put him here for now. Most reasons people have for Scum reading him are out of paranoia I think. He has played decent this game and some of his posts really show town mindset
Art - Yes, I am flipping on him. I read his posts a genuine and while I think his argument against me was misplaced, he seems like he is legit just frustrated at getting Scum read for something that happened early day 1
Null:
Damdred - hasn't really done anything to alter the state of the game
Chez - Hasn't been active and generally hasn't done much
Scum Lean:
Tumble: Hist Tone is good, but some of his posts just rub me the wrong way all over
Jealous - Has been really inactive and had one decent content post that was a bit contrived if I'm being honest. I could not see what he saw in Jean.
Super - Really unremarkable. Didn't like the stances he gave and I agree that they have been weak
Scum:
EC - has been completely unremarkable all game long. I don't think I really cared much for a single thing he has done all game.
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My instincts tell me to vote GB for Mayor, but my head says to go with Jean.
I'm going with Jean
##Vote: Jean Valjean[/QUOTE]
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On June 27 2016 04:02 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 02:42 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 18:18 Superbia wrote:
A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:
I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.
Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.
Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?
Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly? This post sucks and I'm Scum reading you for it. Why?
I'll just say it like this: your reasons for both Town reading him AND Scum reading him are not even AI.
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On June 27 2016 04:08 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 04:05 QuickTwist wrote:On June 27 2016 04:02 Superbia wrote:On June 27 2016 02:42 QuickTwist wrote:On June 26 2016 18:18 Superbia wrote:
A quick few notes about how I feel about damdred btw:
I think damdred could be scum, but not for the reasons that have been brought up (iirc). I think his reads have been sort of relaxed and I can see them coming from a town perspective. I do want to see some reasons behind them. Especially the two I asked at the start of the game.
Damdred's most scummy play this game has been his chicanery regarding presidency. He started the game off with the whole "I don't want to be president but I want to support a town president" or something along those lines. I think this is actually sort of scummy. I think as town you want to be the president, especially if you believe in your own ability. Moreover, it felt like he did want the presidency from the very start. His last page of his filter also has him pushing more and more towards getting the presidency.
Damdred, can you explain? Did you really not want presidency? If so, what has changed?
Moreover, can you elaborate on your early reads a little? Why did you conclude artanis vs qt was TvT that quickly? This post sucks and I'm Scum reading you for it. Why? I'll just say it like this: your reasons for both Town reading him AND Scum reading him are not even AI. AI? uwut? How does it make me scum? Also what does it mean for damdred's alignment?
This is the last post of the day for me.
1) Your read on him is very non-commital. That is sometimes considered a Scum tell all on its own.
2) I read your reasons for reading him both Town and Scum as greatly reaching into things that are not alignment indicative at all. It would be one thing if they were solid Town and Scum tells, but they are not.
Combine these two and what are you left with? No stance taken one way or the other based off reasons that are not AI. You might as well have just said "He hasn't done anything AI" but the fact that you are trying to blow a post like that up by both giving a strong stance both ways and giving non-valid reasoning just makes it a terrible terrible post.
Why this is a Scummy post is because:
1) Its one of the longer posts you have made
2) You are fabricating reads
3) You don't have hardly any long posts to begin with
4) So it makes it look like you are trying look like you are doing more than you really are.
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On June 27 2016 23:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, why did you decide to vote Jean as mayor when you decided to vote me?
QT, why did you prefer to vote Jean instead of me?
Well, IDK. Not too sure. I said i was considering you both. It was pretty close I will admit. It mostly lied in my reasons for Town reading both of you. I read you Town for having excellent reactions to reads on you and I Town read Jean for having very sound reasoning and seeing any reason to Scum read him. In the end I went with my opinion of what would be harder to fake as Scum I guess. Like I still think there is a really good chance you are Town, but at this point I have zero reasons to Scum read Jean based on the facts. But I will say I think your tone in better than Jeans, and that counts for something.
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