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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 28 2016 23:04 GMT
#1548
butt fuck it. You have my sword.
##Unvote
##Vote Jean Valjean
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 28 2016 23:09 GMT
#1549
If he ends up flipping town I'm just going to call it a policy lynch to contain his ego.
Then pray it was Kitaman so it breaks his unlynched as town streak and I finally get to sit on the longest-unlynched-as-town-streak throne that I thoroughly deserve!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 28 2016 23:09 GMT
#1550
Unless I get lynched afterwards then too. That'd be really unfortunate
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:01 GMT
#1564
On June 29 2016 18:35 Superbia wrote:
Damdred has to be lynched this game btw. Possibly today.

[image loading]
On June 29 2016 19:53 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 18:36 Superbia wrote:
But I'm going to see what Jean does first

Mostly: not much.

I am, as explained, busy today. This has nothing to do with my alignment, simply real life obligations.

I am not caught up on the previous day.

I invite anyone who thinks voting me is a good idea to go back and read my approach and contributions on day 1. I am going to try my best not to be an asshole about it, even if lynching the most articulate and helpful player in town who lynched mafia on day 1 on day 2 is... well... very special.

My current thoughts, explained briefly are as follows:

My spat with superbia during the night made me feel better about him. Specifically the post where he talked about aiming for being so right that people had no choice but to listen to him showed a sort of a defiant attitude that is far more likely to come from a townie.

Superbia's fakeclaim was really bad. It changes how we view tictock. Tictock obviously knew the claim was fake, but that could simply be because he knew who delivered the mafia nk. I think he still requires some looking at. Tictock's responses during the night weren't very townie, although I'm not sure at all. Another thing is that this is the time where I'd expect tictock to come in and start actually figuring out the rest of the game.

Artanis and Skynx are two players who really, really need to contribute more.

I still think Jealous doesn't sound like mafia, but I'm weighing him on the "newbie scale", which might be a mistake.

Chez, more than anyone else, has been extremely underwhelming. He has not yet provided a single colored list with the classic insights that he almost always does. He is not helping us solve the game, which despite his trolling he almost always does.

I'm going to move my vote on Chez for these reasons.

Not caught up, calls out players for not contributing enough. Yeah, you can be mafia.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:44 GMT
#1567
On June 29 2016 20:35 Jean Valjean wrote:
In addition, that is an extremly weak accusation Artanis, you are a better player to than think that is something that actually makes someone mafia.

Maybe I was right on day 1 after all.

##unvote
##vote Artanis[Xp]


That is so weak, so awfully awfully weak.

Your OMGUS is even weaker!
Loving it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:45 GMT
#1568
Conceding is quicker though, that way we don't have to wait another 9 hours.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:46 GMT
#1570
On June 29 2016 20:45 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 20:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 29 2016 20:35 Jean Valjean wrote:
In addition, that is an extremly weak accusation Artanis, you are a better player to than think that is something that actually makes someone mafia.

Maybe I was right on day 1 after all.

##unvote
##vote Artanis[Xp]


That is so weak, so awfully awfully weak.

Your OMGUS is even weaker!
Loving it.

Please explain in some detail how what you called me out as mafia for is actually scummy.

Nah, I don't really have to. Everyone already knows I'm town.
Feel free to keep digging yourself that hole though by pretending I'm not. Zebra eating lion time.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:51 GMT
#1571
[image loading]
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 11:58 GMT
#1575
On June 29 2016 20:55 Jean Valjean wrote:
In order to keep up with my theme of transparency, this is not "just an omgus".

I have had lingering suspicions of Artanis, even in that summary post I just wrote I mentioned how little impact he has had on the game. I voiced my concerns repeatedly on Day 1, and even though I ended up not killing him I felt like he was fading into the background.

I have been struggling with figuring out his alignment and I'm nowhere certain it's town, or mafia, for that matter. The reason I just voted him is very simple.

I mentioned three people who were inactive or not impactful on night 1, and he says "you can be mafia" because somehow that is a contradiction with me not having caught up. Sheer page count or post count is not an indicator of activity. I do not think Artanis is actually dumb enough to think his reasoning here is valid.

Then there's the meta factor. It doesn't help that I feel like Artanis is just about the one player here who has the balls to try to kill me as scum. Go for the big play or go home. This is all subjective and kind of bad analysis, but I'm explaining why it affects my thought process.




I wish I had more time to play. Just like on Day 1 I am simply a person who has true real life obligations that I cannot ignore. Sometimes I'm able to contribute a lot and sometimes I'm not.

I am, predictably, going to flip vanilla town (yes, this is me claiming my role) if I get lynched. It greatly concerns me that town is so willing to go along with this.

Just like I repeatedly have extended an invitation and explanation to all the people I suspect this game, clearly detailing why it is I suspect them, I would ask the same of the people who suspect me. Explain why you want to lynch me, and what needs explaining for me to alleviate your concerns.

If you actually knew me you would've known I would've long, looooooooong conceded as scum with this kind of scumteam and would've never been able to put in as much effort as I have. Just look at any of my old scumgames. Feel free to keep bench pressing bad logic though.

In the meantime, I'll give you one chance. Tell me what your actual account is and I might let you live for today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 12:00 GMT
#1577
On June 29 2016 21:00 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 20:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 29 2016 20:55 Jean Valjean wrote:
In order to keep up with my theme of transparency, this is not "just an omgus".

I have had lingering suspicions of Artanis, even in that summary post I just wrote I mentioned how little impact he has had on the game. I voiced my concerns repeatedly on Day 1, and even though I ended up not killing him I felt like he was fading into the background.

I have been struggling with figuring out his alignment and I'm nowhere certain it's town, or mafia, for that matter. The reason I just voted him is very simple.

I mentioned three people who were inactive or not impactful on night 1, and he says "you can be mafia" because somehow that is a contradiction with me not having caught up. Sheer page count or post count is not an indicator of activity. I do not think Artanis is actually dumb enough to think his reasoning here is valid.

Then there's the meta factor. It doesn't help that I feel like Artanis is just about the one player here who has the balls to try to kill me as scum. Go for the big play or go home. This is all subjective and kind of bad analysis, but I'm explaining why it affects my thought process.




I wish I had more time to play. Just like on Day 1 I am simply a person who has true real life obligations that I cannot ignore. Sometimes I'm able to contribute a lot and sometimes I'm not.

I am, predictably, going to flip vanilla town (yes, this is me claiming my role) if I get lynched. It greatly concerns me that town is so willing to go along with this.

Just like I repeatedly have extended an invitation and explanation to all the people I suspect this game, clearly detailing why it is I suspect them, I would ask the same of the people who suspect me. Explain why you want to lynch me, and what needs explaining for me to alleviate your concerns.

If you actually knew me you would've known I would've long, looooooooong conceded as scum with this kind of scumteam and would've never been able to put in as much effort as I have. Just look at any of my old scumgames. Feel free to keep bench pressing bad logic though.

In the meantime, I'll give you one chance. Tell me what your actual account is and I might let you live for today.


That is never going to happen

Then die today
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 12:03 GMT
#1579
On June 29 2016 21:01 Jean Valjean wrote:
But yeah, fuck it, I started listing up the reasons I stopped thinking Artanis is mafia and they still kinda hold up, so I'm going back to my Chez is mafia theory.

Artanis' reaction to my pressure yesterday
Artanis' post where he talks about smurfhunting (it shows sort of a.... chill attitude, that mafia might not dare portray)
Artanis' filter length

So whatever, I'm just gonna assume he's a baddie, which wouldn't be that surprising.

The lion concedes he was OMGUSing. It is too late for the lion. The zebra is hungry.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 12:06 GMT
#1581
On June 29 2016 21:05 Jean Valjean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2016 21:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 29 2016 21:01 Jean Valjean wrote:
But yeah, fuck it, I started listing up the reasons I stopped thinking Artanis is mafia and they still kinda hold up, so I'm going back to my Chez is mafia theory.

Artanis' reaction to my pressure yesterday
Artanis' post where he talks about smurfhunting (it shows sort of a.... chill attitude, that mafia might not dare portray)
Artanis' filter length

So whatever, I'm just gonna assume he's a baddie, which wouldn't be that surprising.

The lion concedes he was OMGUSing. It is too late for the lion. The zebra is hungry.

You understand the actual chances of this happening are next to zero, right?

Looking at the vote counts, amount of cleared people and thread sentiment, I would beg to differ.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 12:09 GMT
#1582
I'm curious how it feels to be on the opposite end of the table though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 13:50 GMT
#1587
On June 29 2016 21:37 Jean Valjean wrote:
And this is not a one way investigation Artanis, you are still a possibility for scum this game

[image loading]

Deadline's today right? That's kind of unfortunate since I've got improv until close to deadline.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 18:47 GMT
#1625
On June 30 2016 02:44 Damdred wrote:
I don't think that's something scum forgets who shot their partner.

Ehhh its kinda weak, but I don't think I want to lynch jealous especially with his attitude/interactions today.

I'm inclined to agree. There's very few people I want to lynch at this point which is kinda nice but also mildly concerning.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 18:49 GMT
#1627
On June 29 2016 21:13 Jean Valjean wrote:
I think mafia is most likely somewhere in:

Damdred/Artanis/Chez/Tictock

On June 29 2016 22:52 Rels wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Jean Valjean (3): Tictock, Artanis[Xp], Damdred
Damdred (2): Tictock, Skynx, Tumblewood, Jealous
Chezinu (2): Jean Valjean (x2), Jean Valjean (x2)
Jealous (1): Artanis[Xp], Superbia, Damdred, Tumblewood
Artanis[Xp] (0): Jean Valjean (x2)
Tictock (0): Superbia, Artanis[Xp], Skynx, Jean Valjean (x2), Tumblewood, Jealous, Damdred

Not Voting (3): GlowingBear, Chezinu, Superbia

As of now, Jean Valjean will get lynched!



Day 2 ends Wednesday, Jun 29 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .
TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate.

Hey, what a coincidence. JVJ's scumlist consists of the people voting him and the potentially easy mislynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 18:51 GMT
#1628
On June 30 2016 03:48 Tictock wrote:
Besides if Jean flips town the last scum would basically have to be either Damdred or I from the way we are pushing this right?

I don't think either of you is going to flip scum regardless honestly. Damdred is never scum and you seem very unlikely to be scum as well from how the game's developed. You've gotten more and more into the game as it's progressed whereas scum has been getting trounced. That with the fakeclaim which would've given you a fine excuse to just concede, I'm quite certain you're town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 18:53 GMT
#1629
I'm basically at 'it has to be JVJ or Chez', and I will never abandon my BFF.
Outside chance of it being Superbia too but meh.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 18:58 GMT
#1631
Also looking at EC's filter now; it makes more sense for him to attack JVJ a bit if he's scum. Scum feels much more at ease attacking other scum, and especially newbie scum can suffer from unnecessary bussing syndrome. I know I did.

Pure speculation though!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
June 29 2016 19:10 GMT
#1636
Can't really get anything out of the vote counts. We already know MD committed suicide-by-mayor and EC ended up parking his vote on TW (off-wagon) and didn't come back until 90 min past deadline. Could've actually been AFK, could've been strategical, but there's strategical reasons for him to be afk whether JVJ is scum or not. He positioned himself in a way that he couldn't end up voting for either wagon but could probably justify a vote on either still.

I also went through Chez's filter but didn't find much in it to sway me one way or the other. Bleh.
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