[M][T] 1-Day Mafia

On June 18 2016 08:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cake, did you guys roll a chick team?

On June 19 2016 21:22 Superbia wrote:
I hate having to explain reads z

On June 20 2016 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

umm what? who do you think is 100% mafia?

On June 20 2016 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure if Cake just dumbtold herself town..

On June 20 2016 01:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you mixing him up with someone?
Me, you and him have never been in a same game together.

On June 20 2016 01:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you think Superbia is mafia right?

On June 20 2016 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is totally incorrect though. You got lynched because the cop claimed a red check on you.

On June 20 2016 01:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

It is not that the laziness is justified or not, but the fact i can't understand is why you TOWNREAD him earlier for the said thing. Like why did you think he is TOWN for that? Null i could get, or not scum, but why town? Why were other people who were "lazy" not town if it is justified? Was/is yamato town too because he was lazy or why?

On June 20 2016 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Superbia wasn't the cop though.

On June 20 2016 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like we had everyone except for Skynx posted at that time. If laziness is a reason to townread someone how does superbia (or/and yamato) differ from other people at that time?

On June 20 2016 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

idk what's the metric here but as he got lynched on D5 i don't think he was too amazing tbh.

On June 20 2016 01:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i went to the database as i didn't remember Superbia was even in the game, then i saw he got lynched on D5 and as the dude who won the game as scum while me and yamato (nightkills on N1 and N2) were yelling to lynch Moosydoosy, not listening to that cannot be amazing play, especially when he got himself lynched as town.

On June 20 2016 02:21 rsoultin wrote:
Btw I want 2/3 people to shoot from everyone in order of preference. That includes you cake.

Yam/cake

Not much time left to the night phase

On June 20 2016 04:33 Superbia wrote:
This is not a normal game of mafia. Tomorrow is the normal game of mafia. Tonight is killing the scariest town (leaning rayn).

On June 21 2016 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake would you or would you not shoot yamato if you were mafia? Why?

On June 21 2016 05:14 rsoultin wrote:


your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying

On June 21 2016 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yes and for the players who are not Superbia in this game that includes all the players in the game since Shapelog and Skynx are newbies (in relation to other players and their experience with them) and rest of them are you, me and rsoultin.

So i was kinda looking for the answer for "who would in your opinion most likely shoot yamato" and you said "anyone".

On June 21 2016 05:22 rsoultin wrote:


cake, the point is you're saying that i'm the most likely scum here because i KNEW that you might make a kill like that for the lolz and wanted to frame you

if that's your reason it's flawed because
1. i haven't tried to frame you. i am quite obviously scumreading shape
2. i actually don't know you well enough to predict your night kills. obviously this is something that i know and you may disagree with, but yeah...i actually said that i doubted you would do this. when this game is over and it's proven that i'm town, you'll see that it's 100% true and your impression of how well you think i know you is wrong lol ><

On June 21 2016 05:23 Shapelog wrote:

Lol,
So I have to ask,

Does this mean I am town to you?

On June 21 2016 05:30 rsoultin wrote:


rayn is my top townread for how he is interacting with people this game. this is a read that i historically have a ton of trouble explaining, but to me a scum!rayn appears like a bully shouting at people to lynch someone while a town!rayn might be very opinionated, but is more collaborative...i.e. works with people or at least tries to

^ this method of reading him has not failed me if i recall correctly

but independent of that, his response to the nk was to say that you probably WERE NOT scum for the kill, just like mine. if scum is trying to frame you with it, they obviously can't be us

i think it's time that you drop the theory and try to think of the game without it revolving around you/framing you

and really, my main question to all of these theories is why would someone bother to frame either of you if they could just frame yamato?

On June 21 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:

I do not want to lose the game for town.

But, with your logic about who killed Yammty, do I fit it? This I want to know.

On June 21 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote:

Fair point,

I wrote that part of the post before I saw those posts.

Cause Yammty actually can play this game as town versus me (i do not want to say cake cuz idk her)? And I have a less likely hood of not convincing people?
Cause Yammty saved town in Noir?
*Cause remaining player knows Yammty for something they did as town?

On June 22 2016 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The problem is why does Superbia make that play then?
Cake was not scumread, Superbia was not scumread by anyone except me.
Why not shoot me and be townread instead of making a play you don't even know will succeed?

On June 22 2016 04:59 Shapelog wrote:

Professor Shapelog's Disco Read Party of Nonsensical Title, Followed by Dis-guesting Reads

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I've reread the game, looked through everyone's filter etc. Still working, Posting this just to have something out to be discussed.

Page annalist:

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Game start - page 8, me, rsoul, and super. Jokes, Tr from Super on me

Page 8 - Page end of 8, Ryan and Yammty enters

Page 9- Yammty joke, Ryan wants tina killed, cake enters, questions ryan, Tr's Super and yammty. Vows to give me hell. Rsoul Tr's me, Skynx enters, Ryan responds to Cake with a question, Ryan questions Super's reason to TR me (weirdly not Rsoul's), Ryan question's Skynx

Page 10 - Skynx answers no, states ]Super is simular. Ryan Responds to that, and his drunken ego. Ryan TR's me being town possibly, Cop responds with question to Ryan's question that was responding to Cops question that responded to ryan's question. Ryan responded with question, then asks another one about super/yammty town reads from cake. Cake states why (tone and yammty sounds better), Ryan disproves it, calls Super's logic weak for TR and explains how to TR yammty. Ryan with Cop read logic, Cop responds with Super seems normal, never scum read you.

This is just getting to fucking long At this point. And am wasting my time just cataloging this shit.

Lets look through the guy who flipped scum, like a smart person would.

-----Super:

• Ryan is just everywhere in his filter. Once you get passed the interaction he had with me and Rsoul, a good chuck left is Ryan posts. Most of this are the questions about his TR on me, and then the Ryan is the scariest townie math and aftermath.
  
• Cop is mentioned near the end more. Super questions her after the change in reads, and then again about her read on him. 2nd shot for Super
  
• Town read me. Didn't interact because I wasn't here.
  
• Interaction with Rsoul stops after the joking posts. Rso was third shoot for him. Noting directed at Rsoultin.
  
• TR on Super for being diff. interaction towards the end.
  

Alright, So Super (goon) had a huge range of different levels of interaction. To POE this and narrow this down, I am going to remove some people.

Skynx: Not at all like how he was in the newbie + Could of jumped on me. He seems to be looking at things with a townie mindset due to how he is very questioning about the thread and situations. His interaction with super was on a level upon which I do not feel would be team. I feel like they would have interacted a bit more or less. Basically he is at a happy medium.

If I did have to a rise a negative point though, it would have to be that he look back for a suspect via the super push that much. Minor complaint.

So now the pool is Ryan/Cop/Rsoul, lets go further.

Cop
Early town read on Super. Her filter is a bit full of Night 1 talk with super, but this is most towards Ryan's questions. Also includes Rso and Ryan to the conversation. My and sky interactions were a bit missing, but I get more onto that in the next paragraph.

And now this gets into the highly conversational part of this read, and this is the character of Cake. Anything That I say here is not meet to be insulting (not that it should be) or judgmental. Cake is somewhat of ENSP and a INTJ mixed (kinda) She is uncomfortable with people she doesn't know very well, and is more likely to talk to those she does know. Multiple posts, suggest this (especially the one with her listening to Ryan and Rsoul about my and Sky newbness if stated)

So what does this mean? This means that it makes sense for her NOT to interact as heavily as she does with Rsoul or Ryan. In addition, I feel like she would WANT to go against this and would interact more with me and sky if she was scum, due to the logic of not being able to be tied to being scum. And while she did scum read me, Skynx was pretty untouched Day 1, and only consider around the time of the Framing idea.

That last paragraph basically is saying, that she is being herself this game, and isn't stressed to be someone she isn't.

Then the framing idea, Both me and her had the same idea (admittedly, not over the same stuff lol) but why would mafia reveal a Framing idea shortly after mine (I mean, theoretically she could copy it, but I do not think so)? Why even state it at all.

Plus, nothing of her and Super interaction reads heavily for me as scum v scum.

So it has to be one of Ryan and Rsoul (assuming I am not wrong here) So Plottwist time, 1 has heavily interacted with Ryan, and the other, Super barely interacted with.

Diving their filters, will have thoughts. Clearing my mind so I am not going to bias it off of some stupid shit here like "Ryan is so inquisitive, blah blah blah" anymore either.

On June 22 2016 05:26 Shapelog wrote:
I am not even wasting the time with the framing idea anymore. I only posted that in her section of the read, because she had a similar idea.

Say what you want, Cake has been extremely focus/more contactable with you and Rsoul this game then me or skynx. This I find we both can agree on. I can quote a number of posts the supports that Idea.


So I cannot be town trying to actually give a solid conclusion, outside of a theory I have, and found that they are both town? Why do you think me TRing them is going to make them flock to my side? Shouldn't they be more wary of me because I am sus of 2 players they both have a strong opinion about?

Or (and I am going to be cheeky) are you scum, and actually worrying that I get on the right track?

On June 22 2016 06:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is a game where N1 i killed rsoultin?

On June 22 2016 06:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I didn't kill rsoultin.
I decided the night 1 kill, there was nothing too spectacular about that. We killed the most townie dude.
I don't exactly know who you and Sirren killed after that because i don't closely follow games where i am scum after i die.
But you made the "normal" night kills, people you know and know to be good, and who are not scumread.

On June 22 2016 06:44 rsoultin wrote:


o.0 lol are you saying you're not sure who is scum between the three of them right now?

On June 22 2016 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not arguing against that. I am arguing against the fact that the way it happened, if i was Superbia's scumbuddy, we would have played like complete retards. And i shoot rsoultin 10/10 if i am mafia since yamato is my #1 mislynch.