EPTWithout even diving, This should be a 1 way fight right? Should be very simple right? "Oh ryan is sooooo Townie, blah blah blah, Rsoul isn't the same. It's she right.?"
Maybe.
I am not going to lie, my gut says Rsoul. I just have that feeling that it is her, but logically, that might not be the case. Some things I notice in the first post under the page by page thing actually is a bit off putting for me from Ryan. I kinda have beaten around the bush here with Ryan and his filter as well. Not to say I do cannot come up with some reasons Why Rsoul can be scum off the top of my head, but I have just pass off Ryan's filter.
And I am going to predict that this is signing my death warrant going after these two. So I will sign it,
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/s2Gh6eC.png)
Rather Die by my reads anyways then over something as stupid as the shot. I flipped out too much about it yesterday.
Anyways, I am being unnecessarily emo about this. So lets begin.
RYAN
Something I have notice about Ryan, is that no matter if it is in a game, or talking to someone about a game, he is a very ? usage. I also notice mostly from this game, that he is very aggressive in terms of pushing ideas and interrogating and what not. So I talk some of those points with salt.
On June 18 2016 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town?
Could you expand on this, mainly on why you think Shapelog is town?
The question that started it all with super. A following up post about super,
On June 18 2016 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In what terms similar? I actually glanced over Superbia's filter from the newbie game you are referring here and i thought he was scum because - in addition to the nightkill stuff i talked in about in the thread - he seemed to say a lot of stuff (especially on D1) that lead nowhere, which is closer to his scumplay (or at least i thought it is).
Have you taken a look at any games he has played as mafia? I mean if you want to base a read on someone based on meta you should have references from both alignments, otherwise the argument doesn't really hold water. idk if you even are making an argument or not tbh.
I don't really find nothing too out pf place except for the stuff i asked about, and idk what those things mean yet because i havent gotten my answers. I don't actually think rsoultin is scum since idk why drunk rayn thought being trolly could make her mafia and sober rayn doesnt agree with drunk rayn and drunk rayn is not here to explain the read to sober rayn. Maybe he will tonight
In what terms similar? I actually glanced over Superbia's filter from the newbie game you are referring here and i thought he was scum because - in addition to the nightkill stuff i talked in about in the thread - he seemed to say a lot of stuff (especially on D1) that lead nowhere, which is closer to his scumplay (or at least i thought it is).
Have you taken a look at any games he has played as mafia? I mean if you want to base a read on someone based on meta you should have references from both alignments, otherwise the argument doesn't really hold water. idk if you even are making an argument or not tbh.
I don't really find nothing too out pf place except for the stuff i asked about, and idk what those things mean yet because i havent gotten my answers. I don't actually think rsoultin is scum since idk why drunk rayn thought being trolly could make her mafia and sober rayn doesnt agree with drunk rayn and drunk rayn is not here to explain the read to sober rayn. Maybe he will tonight
I mean, technically, Rsoul had a TR on me (for no visible information) on me. However, she didn't state it like how Super stated it. But the bold is actually quite interesting. He doesn't know what to make of it, and is waiting for Super's defense. He then comments about it,
I mean this is Superbia's reasoning why Shapelog is town. Why so uncertain? The way he presents the argument suggests that he isn't even sure how Shapelog played in the game he is basing the meta on which then suggests that the whole argument is bs.
Fair enough, Ryan stating why he doesn't like it.
next up is the yammty thing,
On June 18 2016 23:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rsoultin what's your read on yamato? Any thoughts on what i brought up?
You are in a unique position like me in a sense that you have more information as you and me both know 100% that we are not both mafia.
rsoultin what's your read on yamato? Any thoughts on what i brought up?
You are in a unique position like me in a sense that you have more information as you and me both know 100% that we are not both mafia.
I need to check on this in Rsoul's filter. It feels as if Ryan is trying to confirm himself as town via that post off of this.
Reading thru, nothing sticks out too much. Some talk about the yammty thing with Rsoul, some things pointed at cake. Town explanation for cake about me and my meta. Super comes back,
On June 19 2016 18:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this:
.. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0".
Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing?
I mean you just made a set of posts and followed it up with this:
.. like in JAT game, the first ~30 posts in your filter is "start from 0 just to end back in 0".
Could you answer me regarding the Shapelog thing?
On June 19 2016 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To be completely honest, people who post a shitton of one-liners and "fail to realize" what are the important discussion points -- or ignore stuff i find to be relevant -- (or don't really bring up anything new on the table) are super hard to read for me. In the latest newbie game the whole D1 was basically Jealous vs QT and there too Superbia basically avoided touching the whole issue with even a long stick, and since he is a player who is actually capable of quite decent play and capable of leading the town i found that highly unlike that he was town in that game. I was horribly wrong.
Anyways Superbia, my opinion atm is that if the latest burst of posts is the best you can offer you can get lynched or shot.
To be completely honest, people who post a shitton of one-liners and "fail to realize" what are the important discussion points -- or ignore stuff i find to be relevant -- (or don't really bring up anything new on the table) are super hard to read for me. In the latest newbie game the whole D1 was basically Jealous vs QT and there too Superbia basically avoided touching the whole issue with even a long stick, and since he is a player who is actually capable of quite decent play and capable of leading the town i found that highly unlike that he was town in that game. I was horribly wrong.
Anyways Superbia, my opinion atm is that if the latest burst of posts is the best you can offer you can get lynched or shot.
On June 19 2016 18:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay. So why the questionmarks in your post?
What does this post mean?
Okay. So why the questionmarks in your post?
What does this post mean?
Questions, noting too off.
On June 19 2016 18:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you actually meta town read Shapelog without actually remembering how he played in the game you referenced to? Is that what you are saying? Or what?
So you actually meta town read Shapelog without actually remembering how he played in the game you referenced to? Is that what you are saying? Or what?
Eh, was wrong, but nothing against ryan.
I have sparked a Idea, but more on that later.
It is hard to tell for me if this is scum vs scum or tvs right now, It seems like Super was genuinely trying to answer it.
On June 19 2016 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Shapelog. I just revisited your filter and it doesn't actually look as good as i remembered.
I have a hard time figuring out where you actually stand with your reads. You seem to be thinking i am town, Skynx is town and rsoultin is town(?), who is scum?
Also Shapelog. I just revisited your filter and it doesn't actually look as good as i remembered.
I have a hard time figuring out where you actually stand with your reads. You seem to be thinking i am town, Skynx is town and rsoultin is town(?), who is scum?
Great If I knew what that TR was about back ago.
Making this shit go faster.
Next few pages is cakey, at least he treats cake with the amount of attention that he treated Super. Super is then scum read for what he posted.
Going back to that idea I stated. Normally I would belie that that clears Ryan due to slip that was proven to be true (well the it was a mafia slip from a mafia member), but, looking at super's reaction to it. He seemed very, calm about it. Maybe he was freaking out in the QT, which I cannot know, but he was very calm doing the process, and ultimately, keep pushing Ryan.
On June 20 2016 04:57 Superbia wrote:
Oh cmon. Did no one see rayn's reaction? z_z
Oh cmon. Did no one see rayn's reaction? z_z
Ryan, like anyone else, would of known that a Dead goon is better then no goon. Cannot really tie ryan himself to it. But it is as not strong for a town point as I thought it was.
Ryan also pushed super hard too towards the end.
Moving onto the Day.
Basically Superbia is setting up a play where if he is not killed his vote will be on yamato 100%, and that will not change. yamato, not assuming Superbia is scum as he said, basically cannot let that happen as town because if he is town and Superbia is town that means he basically has to counter-vote Superbia and if they are both town it means town will 100% lose.
There should be absolutely no way yamato doesn't understand that and lets Superbia live, unless Superbia for some reason needs to live over him. They both look super sketchy, but it makes more sense for yamato to be GF than for Superbia.
If the game goes on i suggest you guys lynch yamato. It just makes the most in case Superbia is not in fact the GF. If he flips town or mafia doesn't really matter. Please try to read the first paragraph and understand it.
gl guys.
There should be absolutely no way yamato doesn't understand that and lets Superbia live, unless Superbia for some reason needs to live over him. They both look super sketchy, but it makes more sense for yamato to be GF than for Superbia.
If the game goes on i suggest you guys lynch yamato. It just makes the most in case Superbia is not in fact the GF. If he flips town or mafia doesn't really matter. Please try to read the first paragraph and understand it.
gl guys.
Going with idea, Ryan could of still killed Yammty and post this. His reaction to the weirdness of the shot was kinda weird looking back.
On June 20 2016 06:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wut?
wut?
Fair, next post,
On June 20 2016 06:59 rsoultin wrote:
lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol
lol is it bad that my first thought was shape could be scum for that shot? lol
next post,
On June 20 2016 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ohhhh...... interesting!!
more tomorrow, now gn!
ohhhh...... interesting!!
more tomorrow, now gn!
I feel like he would be more questioning about it then just wut followed by happy embrocation after Rsoul.
It is worth noting, that his activity did drop a bit in Day 1, but nothing I am worrying about.
Day 1, Ryan was open to discussion about ohter people. Not out of the range of mafia actually. Sure it is easier, but that is it.
Idk, i kinda have a prob. with his reaction and super's tone towards the end. other points to like the Yammty thing, also seems like mafia wanting to be town read. Let me look through Rsoul very speedy.
Too tilted towards the end of his filter to accurately state my idea. Nothing makes sense for me in his replys.
RSOUL:
My major prob. with Rsoul is the interaction via Super. Super was very non talkative about Rsoul. Rsoul on the other hand was talktive about Super. She doesn't fully commits to the Yammty being scum idea, either. Defends super up to the Slip basically, would not know why to do so, but slip could mean to get the lynch (same with ryan) focused a bit on.
After Day 1, It is mostly me as a target (which I can understand) with skynx and if I am reading correctly, a bit of cake as well (not hard thou) See, I want to see she is just tunneling me and she is scum for it. But, this is what I expect town Rsoul to act like towards me. I will say the post about the more shape aruges, the more he sounds townish followed by looking into skynx into back to me again is a bit eye looking, yet, all I did was just quote that framing idea I have.
Idk why she thinks I am going after her though.
I rushed through Rsoul, But I actually think Ryan is the scum here. Just the questionable things about how he acted makes me think he is scum here.
I am going with Ryan.
##Vote:Ryan
