Names Are Hard mini mafia - Page 4

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 08:52 GMT

#1160

Like I think only BloodyC0bbler is the only person better at the role mafia than bugs that I'm aware of. Followed closely by marv. YES THAT IS MY ORDER!

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 08:54 GMT

#1163

Well fair enough, my point is that he's good - not that I think he's mafia though, I'm undecided on that. Only that your assertion that he might be playing well is a fair one, if he's mafia he's almost certainly always going to be playing well.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 08:56 GMT

#1165

Meeehhhh....Bugs isn't really doing any of the trappings of "mafiaBugs" that I remember, though to be fair it's been a hot fucking minute since I've played with him. But I DO have good memories of one game in particular, as I was SK and won that game and Bugs was mafia and lost that game to me. Storm Mafia.

It's a good example of what his mafia play USED to look like, years ago. But I don't know how accurate that will be today. Obviously my style has changed dramatically in that time, it's completely unfair for me to think WBG wouldn't have.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:16 GMT

#1178

On June 10 2016 18:04 Palmar wrote:
There is, btw, no way Artanis makes this play as mafia and it's basically irrelevant whether or not VE is mafia (he actually might be seeing as he decided to be bad and self-vote). There is no upside. If VE is mafia, Artanis just added another free mafia for us, and if VE is town, Artanis basically gave a townie another 72 hours to clear himself.

The only logical conclusion is Artanis is telling the truth and thus Damdred is mafia.

Also, this means Koshi is still bad and I'm still #1

This is also how I see it, I can't see why mafia Artanis would save me to sac himself 1 for 1 for Damdred, our useless Tracker due to RB. It makes zero sense, but obviously that's from my POV where I know I'm town. To anyone else there are other options that I'm not considering.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:21 GMT

#1179

On June 10 2016 15:01 Damdred wrote:
It honestly makes perfect sense tbh.

Art doesn't want to play as scum
Ve scum partner up for Lynch

Art sacs himself give Ve another day gives scum team a ml in the process.

10 v 3
Kwah lynch
9 v 3
Shape nk
8 v 3
Damdred town tracker lynched
7 v 3
Koshi nk
6 v 3
Art scum lynched
6 v 2
Nk
5 v 2
Ve scum
5 v 1
Nk
4 v 1
2 ml needed

If they don't cc me

10 v 3
9 v 3
8 v 3
8 v 2
7 v 2
7 v 1
6 v 1
3 ml needed

It's much harder for one scum to get three ml than two, it's not the most optimal but it's OK

Also this post doesn't take into account the possibility that I'm town, which is important for analysis of Artanis' actions, especially given the "knowledge" that Damdred has that Artanis is for sure 100% mafia. Speaking of which:

On June 10 2016 14:46 Damdred wrote:
##unvote
##vote Ve

Make mafia kill me or let me get a free track. Ve is kind of claiming scum at this point.

Who votes for someone that is NOT the 100% lock scum for him? Like...subtracting any suspicions he has about what specific ROLE I might have if I'm mafia, from his perspective Artanis is 100% lock mafia, but he votes ME? Like.....I don't know man, I can't see it as town tracker. It really doesn't make any fucking sense.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:28 GMT

#1180

Like it doesn't even make sense if I'm the roleblocker, because if Artanis is mafia and we lynch Damdred instead, we're lynching the last power role that town has - there's literally no point in even trying to save the roleblocker with a play like this. So he sacs himself to what - buy me days that I'm already voting myself using?

Damdred is taking you boys on a fucking ride. I hope you buckled your seatbelts....

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:35 GMT

#1184

And here I thought you were voting Dam with me BECAUSE of the claim Palmar. I suspect you still would have stuck with Damdred had you been here.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:45 GMT

#1190

Okay to recap:

Damdred is always the mafia and Artanis is always the town tracker. I can't think of a situation where Artanis counterclaiming Damdred benefits mafia when I'm 100% of the time getting lynched. I was literally clocked out of the game, I just happened to check the game while smoking a cigarette and Art had CC'd Damdred, which just happened to pull me out of rage-quit mode. Like....what is the benefit for mafia? Say he gets town tracker Damdred lynched. He's ALWAYS the next lynch, and by then he can't be sure that I'm 100% the lynch. Maybe he thinks it's likely? Even then though, why take the chance? Why take the risk when I'm 100% the lynch that day? It's not like Damdred is even confirmed at that point, he's endlessly roleblocked so he can never ever confirm himself without flipping, why would Artanis DO that?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:47 GMT

#1192

Maybe it's because the VE=scum sentiment is just that high that he thought it would just fall into place that way. He had to know I'd come back though.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:52 GMT

#1195

VE, one of Dam/Art, TW I guess?

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:53 GMT

#1196

Which would be like the most useless and epic bus ever btw.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:53 GMT

#1197

Maybe not LI Toad v VE epic, but you know...

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:54 GMT

#1200

Oh ya if anyone wants to read a fun game, TL Mafia LI is fun to read. It ended poorly, but the game was hilarious.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:55 GMT

#1201

I was mafia, so is relevant if you think I'm mafia this game.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:56 GMT

#1202

+ Show Spoiler +

BTDubz Palmar play Stellaris with me.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:58 GMT

#1203

Koshi "wtf are you the last mafia" is like saying "wtf are you fucking retarded" without breaking any rules I think.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 10 2016 09:59 GMT

#1204

I WANT to live in a world where the mafia are Rels LightningStrike and Damdred. That's the world I want to live in. Does anyone want to live there with me?