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I mean it's highly unlikely that the game goes to 7 days anyway, but town could conceivably get into a position where they should,no lynch and mafia can just string the game along and force a stupid town decision based on the rule,I suppose. | ||
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On May 24 2016 06:28 Rels wrote: Well, going to sleep so see you tomorrow (= Found first scum | ||
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On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote: Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise  I don't understand ls? Maybe some tmi in this post hrmmm | ||
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I like this | ||
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I'm not super sold yet but it's a good thouht | ||
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Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf | ||
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Oh well looks like might have to plynch some non players | ||
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Could Lynch Palmar, super, tumble today. Fight me | ||
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Lynching sl is generally fun I admit. As for super not sure something about his post strikes me strange and the simple omgus is interesting. | ||
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If you were really trying to get a better feel/read on lightning why would you give him a feel on what you want to hear anyway? And why does ls giving what you think is shitty bad read(s) move him from slightly scum to shitty town? I mean ls still hasn't given any scum reads yet and he's always been able to give shitty town reads as either alignment so why the movement? | ||
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That's right you should be buddying me instead | ||
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On May 25 2016 03:45 Superbia wrote: LS' answer did not progress my read on him that much. In a vacuum he may look scummy because his reasoning is kinda shit (imo), but LS thought process has always been kinda alien to me. I do not feel like LS' opinion/reasoning on kush makes him mafia. That being said, I believe I may have a mafia-meta-tell on LS and he has displayed it this game. I'm not solid on it being an actual mafia tell yet though. I'm looking for something more. OK? So if you think he's scum why do you have him as shitty town pile? | ||
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Ls I'm pretty sure is town tbh. Rough start pushing what he thinks. I mean it would be such a good adjustment in his scum game to do this I kinda can't see it right now. Palmar idk being a bit trolly to me, kinda see it as more town than anything but its more if a gut feeling than anything. I don't know Palmar is a coin flip other two I wouldn't touch today at least. | ||
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If he flips scum I'll be happy but don't want to Lynch him meh | ||
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##unvote ##Vote Holyflare | ||
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Anyway I should read the game at some point. | ||
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It is a good point by koshi | ||
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On May 26 2016 07:42 justanothertownie wrote: I just read koshi said I am town. So he has to be mafia. q.e.d. Well it's set in stone then | ||
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Sorry you rolled scum RIT  | ||
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Rels read on me isn't to weird though he knows me decently well and talked with me extensively about the scum game and champions mafia so him picking up little things I need to change isnt to out there. And yeah I would of just hopped on after or right before the self vote though if super flips scum to you have a stronger case tbh. | ||
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God: Damdred Town: Jat Marv Palmar Koshi LS Probably town: SL Kush Rels Hedging: Super Tumble Scum: Ritojy/vivax Rels could be scum possibly but meh he townreads me in such a nice fashion I can't hurt him today. But yeah these are where I'm at. | ||
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On May 27 2016 01:16 justanothertownie wrote: Why? Do you think he wouldn't be able to say this as mafia? Because I doubt that. What's the point in town reading one of your only ml this game. He's not getting like 8 people lynched so kinda in a shit situation if he has to rely on you guys lynching me and him fighting against it | ||
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Maybe I'm wrong on someone but kinda leaves me at a gut at vivax and tumble. | ||
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On May 27 2016 01:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: But the fact that you think this makes you town makes it likely that you would do it as scum. Listen Kush I'm all about optimal play really even if I make mistakes. I never said this makes me town, however it does not make me scum in the least bit either. | ||
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On May 27 2016 01:30 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think tumble is scum atm. Esp the way ritoky attacked him he probably is more town than scum unless I missing some clues on his scum meta. Then I am wrong about someone, and my gut says super is town atm | ||
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On May 27 2016 01:37 justanothertownie wrote: Explain. The dude didn't make a single good post this game and instead of solving the game prefered to continue stupid arguments. And besides that his tone does exactly fit his mafia meta. Unwarranted arrogance and abrasiveness. Eh it's gut and bad reasoning mostly. | ||
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It's not enough for me to say he's scum but I don't think he's as lock town as he normally is at this point meh. | ||
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Anyway I would suggest a bullet if we have a vig somewhere in the tumble/superbia/Kush/sl preferably just the first two. | ||
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I won't let you down this time koshi | ||
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On May 27 2016 07:18 Tumblewood wrote: Damdred you too? Why does everyone think Koshi's reads suck until he dies? I said since the start if the night koshi has had decent reads. But it's nit a horrid idea if not marv we wait and see what else vivax gets out with | ||
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Honestly though all of us do things that are borderline sometimes. | ||
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Either way I haven't had much time so far this game as evidenced by like one page filter. Oh well doesn't make me scum shrug. | ||
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On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote: ##vote damdred Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you. Tsk can't even take a joke mostly which makes me a little sad. | ||
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On May 27 2016 15:26 Superbia wrote: And then Damdred has done essentially nothing. He has been super waffley on me all game (I think?) which may be related to reading me scum when it's possible to push me but I'm too lazy to actually check. I thought you were soft claiming blue to jat at one point shrug. So I can be waffle tastix atm. Honestly I don't think there are a ton of people I want to Lynch which is kinda OK at this point. Everyone on Hf before hf self vote minus probably jat who is town anyway basically should get a free pass. Including Marv and Palmar and probably yourself. If there are two mafia which is possible could be Marv if hf knew he would give up super early but it could be you nd Palmar as well or vivax and someone else. Overall I'd rather just give you guys a pass today and look elsewhere. Even if Marv is being a silly pants. | ||
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I also hate that hf self voted so early which kind of means his scum team was either in a position to gain ultimate cred (maybe Marv or Palmar maybe both) which would be interesting with his lackadaisical attitude at points. Or his scum team was already under scrutiny and couldn't stand up to the combined weight of Palmar Marv and jat (trifecta of doom). Probably the scenario two makes the most sense because even an afk hf is better than a dead hf. Anyway I have to think on it and sometime read what I haven't. Sleeping now | ||
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On May 27 2016 15:35 Superbia wrote: Oh yeah. I think this is probably wrong. Bit of tin foil as well. I think HF is only going to self-vote when a mafia already has a vote on him. This isn't necessarily true though, for better or worse we have players who have about 10x the pull most players have. Marv rayn Palmar, jat. Either way if they generally say something and team up its bad time for someone. And on a related note, don't read hf filter he is a good enough player where it's wifom and he could easily abti-spew someone. Also another thought I forgot to put in my scenarios hf saw the writing on the wall and jumped on himself to destroy any type of cred Marv/Palmar and anyone who helped stabilize the wagon could of gained. So yeah I think we should take a few of the I itiators off the wagon. And as for vivax he had a burst of posts but died without much more so idk how you can say he looks tons better so far nothing outside scum meta | ||
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Besides ls pushing. I kinda want to marry this idea give most of the wagon a pass and look outside it besides super late voters. | ||
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But if I go with this logic and policy I usually keep. Rels Sl Ls Tumble Ritoky /vivax Are the only ones that I should look at today. Tr ls and think tumble shouldn't be lynched today. Think rels is town as well So I guess sl and vivax but sl is playing to his town meta I think. If I had to point at one personon the Hf wagon probably would be Kush though in the general mafia position of 4th voter. But yeah not today. Going to bed | ||
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This is why people don't listen to you and shouldn't listen to you. @JAT not so interested in giving super a pass as I was people who voted hf before he self voted and you. Super was a sort of late vote at 6 and couldn't move unless he somewhat put himself in danger. I just forgot to put him in my list because I was rushing and tired. @SL sure it makes sense. While what you say is also true to an extent. It is also possible as I point out that the other scum mates could have 0 pull in the thread and just couldn't compete. Marv might be likely but wifom makes me consider an afk hf is somewhat better than a demotivated scum Marv. (Though Marv is demotivated now idk come back to me baby) | ||
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So that's probably why it seems that way and I'm giving a different impression now. | ||
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On May 27 2016 22:43 justanothertownie wrote: This makes sense to me but you have to admit it's pretty WIFOM since you know people are aware of it. Yeah total wifom which I think makes the conversation kinda pointless meh. | ||
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No real substantial push he was the Lynch and his filter is full of wifom meh | ||
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Idk though his push on palmar and super felt like town ls though. The lack of emotion is a bit strange but don't want to Lynch him yet. | ||
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I think he was relaxed for ls under pressure. | ||
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On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: That list is very wrong. Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit. This is amazing Kush just outed himself. ##unvote ##vote Kush | ||
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Hard claiming one shot jk, just got to Lynch Kush now. | ||
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I think the invite game was a tad different the wagon wasn't insurmountable at that point, here it kind of is. Also he is right about viavx | ||
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If marv flips scum (which I'm 40/60 on) then I think kush deserves more attention. Today not really and his ls read u think was dependent on me being scum. | ||
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On May 29 2016 02:01 Tumblewood wrote: I don't think the fake claim was as risky as you're acting like it was. It's more risky than you are making it to be as well. Honestly should of just let it ride for a big see what responses kush got buy meh that would be dumb of me. Anyway if kush sticks with it or I'm not blue I flip he gets lynched pre try risky | ||
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I want Rels to come back and elaborate on his vote a bit more. | ||
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SL actually had some decent points I feel. I think we are kinda locked in on marv, I don't know how I feel about it. I'm not one to talk as I'm hypocritical about this, but I kinda just expect more from marv even on a changed meta than like 3-5 posts and only like what a couple reads? Idk, anyway any questions just ask | ||
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##Vote marv Consolidation purposes. | ||
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To switch or not | ||
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Do just got to evaluate everyone. | ||
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On May 29 2016 07:20 sicklucker wrote: damdred how sure are you that ls is town 75% right now | ||
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His reaction feels sincere though to the lynch | ||
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Anyway just a easy solution if there is a doc or a jk they should cc me and then you lynch me when I flip jk you kill the mafia. Anyway kind of pointless to talk about now and kush going to that already is a little bad I guess | ||
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Super Kussh Rels Palmar Tumble Vivax/SL Ls Jat Super has to be lynched. As for kush the soft pushing and what not just has me confused what he's doing he's been ok active but he hasn't really done anything that made me go this guy is lock town which he normally does he's just kind of existing and the going against marv lynch was strange. He also was misconstructing some things that happened around the hf lynch that made some people look,better. Rels posts aren't that bad but still need to watch him see what he does. He hasn't buddies anyone to hard yet which is a scum trait of his. Palmar is palmar, I kinda want to tr him but he was in the best spot for cred on hf but hasn't really been able to capitalize on it. Just don't sleep on him. I actually think vivax and SL have had smart posts at this point especially the last vivax point. Ls and hat are just town. | ||
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And as for that jat well it was dumb, but I changed it from a protect koshi to jail tumble 10 minutes before deadline. Anyway it is what it is, completely dumb use of my one save but oh well. | ||
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On May 30 2016 06:10 Rels wrote: That's weird, mafia usually sends their highest townread guy for the NK, why did you think Tumble of all people would carry the NK ? This post is kinda weird btw considering we are living in a world where super is the other mafia meh s yeah tumble would be rated higher... | ||
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On May 27 2016 02:37 Damdred wrote: I take back what I aid about super btw he changed what he was doing Nah | ||
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Which days did you use your power on kush | ||
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I'm kinds tempted to do this ##unvote ##Vote palmar I kinda like the feeling of this | ||
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Good deal. I'm willing to listen to what you have to say though super not plans or Lynch lists though just reads atm | ||
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Just so weird ruining any cred your partners could get by bussing | ||
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Sl looks town thankfully though. Games almost on auto soon at least. | ||
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But yeah if I had to wager I'd say tumble over ls thoigh. | ||
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I was two shot, last night I decided to block kush to see if we would get a kp reduction. I should of protected JAT I guess but either scum team had a block on me anyway and we would of lost JAT anyway or Kush is lying and is scum. Two cop type roles is kinda interesting and generally i don't like thinking two cops in a game is alanced but thats just me. Anyway use the information as you will. Especially if super flips town tumble+Kush is a real possibiliy that we have to decide on during the night or what not. | ||
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On May 30 2016 05:22 Damdred wrote: So I read the filters of people and kinda have it like this Super Kussh Rels Palmar Tumble Vivax/SL Ls Jat Super has to be lynched. As for kush the soft pushing and what not just has me confused what he's doing he's been ok active but he hasn't really done anything that made me go this guy is lock town which he normally does he's just kind of existing and the going against marv lynch was strange. He also was misconstructing some things that happened around the hf lynch that made some people look,better. Rels posts aren't that bad but still need to watch him see what he does. He hasn't buddies anyone to hard yet which is a scum trait of his. Palmar is palmar, I kinda want to tr him but he was in the best spot for cred on hf but hasn't really been able to capitalize on it. Just don't sleep on him. I actually think vivax and SL have had smart posts at this point especially the last vivax point. Ls and hat are just town. You mean here where I had you probably the most reasoned scum read in the game and blocked you that night? | ||
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I don't regret this because obviously I was blocked, and two I never had a save cast on JAT. I considered it with like 2 minutes to go but I was pretty commited to trying to block/clear Palmar at first then switched to you. Which either way was blocked so doesn't matter. | ||
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Framer/RB/goon Are the two possible ones in my mind yes. I'd guess the first one Though as the second is pretty weak | ||
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Kinda don't like super Lynch | ||
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But no I think rels is more likely than vivax he's kinda low atm | ||
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##vote rels This is ok | ||
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Parity cop is weak we just know that both of you came back same alignment. I think ls is town but could he be Miller probably. Do I think there is any reason to really tr super, not necessarily. Does that make him 100% scum probably not, there is enough weird things to think he's scum,though. I probably will shore up the lynch closer to time tbh. Do I have doubts about the lynch yeah | ||
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On June 01 2016 05:47 Superbia wrote: I think Rels is the lynch and will most likely flip mafia. Too bad both confirmeds are on my dick. Oh well. Sleep time. x: Don't forget my lynch list. If you are town Its a pre try shameful display when everyone wasn't locked in on you meh. | ||
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On June 01 2016 07:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: My night actions were so sexy though. Damdred your night actions sucked badly. Such bm, at least I didn't tunnel a blue and town though | ||
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On June 01 2016 19:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: but as a blue what you do with your actions is a lot more important than your reads. This is fundamentally untrue | ||
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My d1 in retrospect wasn't bad though, pushed super Lynch and then went hf not to bad. | ||
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On June 02 2016 06:14 Rels wrote: Yeah. Almost every townie had 2 scums down =D Dunno why I let ritoky/Vivax go after D2 but I got him back after rereading the game Idk I think super was so scummy by d3 we just had to and if marv had put a few more posts up would of been over earlier. As for d1 I guess hf didn't want his team to get cred lol | ||
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Anyway all town played well tbh so no complaints. | ||
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Though I figured out a way for scum to win in our situation. | ||
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A general setup is Cop variant, doc/vet/jk, vig vs godfather, RB, goon and sometimes a Miller or wanderer for extra cop hate. The town sided pr were super weak as they were listed in actions and tracker and parity need analytical skills to try to figure out what's going on. Couple that with the mafia team being decidedly strong especially silly against a parity cop and nothing but super carrying kp to avoid tracker. We have a scum team that in the right hand will 9/10 times roll over town pr. Just my opinion it really helped that hf died n1 or else would of been super funky on the checks. | ||
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If hf had survived also we couldn't trust most of the pr information anyway. This was just a different case as the mafia team folded | ||
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