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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:27 GMT
#1919
On May 30 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
o shit I forgot to tell you guys
rels's pressure on kush to answer his tmi question is bad
like, he's trying to threaten kush but what he's saying isn't threatening in the least
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holy shit this is my first day at a computer since monday and it feels so good

First, that doesn't make sense.
Second, why did you make this post:
On May 30 2016 09:16 Tumblewood wrote:
now that that's out of the way, I might start thinking about the game

town
me
Damdred I guess
kush I guess
LS
vivax
SL, probably

mafia
Rels
Palmar, maybe? fear lynch at best right now

really mafia
hm gee I wonder who it is

so today we can lynch superbia and he'll flip scum and then mafia kills damdred or someone and then we lynch rels and he flips scum or if he doesn't mafia kills another confirmed town and the next day we either lynch palmar or stop listening to a gameplan made on d3. sounds good? sounds good.

when apparently you weren't even caught up ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:29 GMT
#1920
On May 30 2016 11:09 sicklucker wrote:
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On May 30 2016 11:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 30 2016 11:03 sicklucker wrote:
Its acualy so bad for mafia to kill a vt over dandred.

Its so bad that I think dandred might be mafia...

like what? mafia had one person to nk lst night and they fucking killed jat who was very far from being unlynable?

LIke this makes on fucking sense. I know dandred claimed 1 shot BUT THAT MEANS NOTHING. a 2 shot would claim a 1 shot mafia is fucking stupid whoever they are. LIke mind bloggling stupid or just dont care about this game.

Like so fucking bad...

Damdred was still suspected by a few people. At this point of time he's a named vt.


he could have tracked mafia last night tho.... you dont ever take dandreds claim as a 1 shot at face value, everyone would claim 1 shot. a 2 shot or a full power. they would all claim 1 shot. mafias stupid to leave him in the game. its probably only 50/50 hes an actual 1 shot

That's a good thought, unless there is a unlimited shot roleblocker in the game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:31 GMT
#1921
On May 30 2016 14:01 Tumblewood wrote:
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On May 30 2016 00:04 Rels wrote:
Superbia still hasn't made a single smart post this game.
Superbia's vote on HF was late, after HF already gave up.
Superbia's vote on marv was late, as if he wanted to see if marv would fire up before casting a vote.
Superbia's aggression is really reminiscent of his past scum games.

This post:
On May 26 2016 16:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm super envious about the sway Palmar/Marv have. Especially when it's now obvious I was not crazy.

Made me realize that Superbia calling one of HF / JAT scum with for the sole reason they were pushing him smells like TMI.

He's very likely scum.

Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech.

Yeah like in that JAT game where I was afraid to call you scum when I was pushing you D1 through D6 right.
It's possible LS is miller actually, Tumble is saying a lot of nonsense right now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:32 GMT
#1922
On May 30 2016 17:38 Palmar wrote:
3 blues in a game this size is normal. 4 is too much, 2 is only ok if it's very strong blues.

This means, with kush, marv and damdred claimed, that anyone who is blue should immediately CC. If there is a 4th blue claim, we lynch into the blues.

Any blue claims after today should be autolynched.

100%
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:34 GMT
#1924
It's kinda annoying to be in every scumlist
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:39 GMT
#1928
On May 30 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
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On May 30 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:
On May 30 2016 14:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On May 30 2016 00:04 Rels wrote:
Superbia still hasn't made a single smart post this game.
Superbia's vote on HF was late, after HF already gave up.
Superbia's vote on marv was late, as if he wanted to see if marv would fire up before casting a vote.
Superbia's aggression is really reminiscent of his past scum games.

This post:
On May 26 2016 16:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm super envious about the sway Palmar/Marv have. Especially when it's now obvious I was not crazy.

Made me realize that Superbia calling one of HF / JAT scum with for the sole reason they were pushing him smells like TMI.

He's very likely scum.

Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech.

Yeah like in that JAT game where I was afraid to call you scum when I was pushing you D1 through D6 right.
It's possible LS is miller actually, Tumble is saying a lot of nonsense right now


2shot tracker & 2shot parity. Wanderer would be way more likely. Also we don't (shouldn't) know rest of mafia PRs.

Pls talk about people outside of parity check.

My opinions haven't changed since yesterday apart from the claim stuff. You & SL are my scumteam.
You're right on the hate on poor parity cop being too much with a miller though. Tumble is just being bad then.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:40 GMT
#1929
Maybe. Unless LS is fooling us all and you just happen to be particulary unsmart this game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:52 GMT
#1930
My townread on LS is pretty anchored though. It's based on meta.
In his last scumgame LS tryharded and surprised a lot of people by being able to replicate his emotional rage as scum, something he hadn't done before. But having said that, he never really engaged people that scumread him. Here is a compilation of posts where he replies to people scumreading him from that game I'm talking about:
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On February 24 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got out of classes for the day and ritoky thinks I'm scum -.- I still think that Damdred is town because he gets more emotional as town compared to his scum play. I like OBS a lot and I think he is town. I really don't know who to vote for mayor because I like both Damdred and ritoky for the mayor position.
@ritoky: Why should I vote you for mayor?
@Damdred: Same thing to you why should I vote you for mayor?

On February 25 2016 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 25 2016 07:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Alright so here's the list:
Most confident
LS - He knows his meta as scum is to not post at all and this game most of his posts are spammy and benign (I think I used the word benign already this game oops)
shapelog - I think OWS and Damdred look way more towny
Vivax - He's pushing on VA for something I honestly think is plausible. Two people with bum in their name is something that would throw me off I think.
SL - Seems right.
Breshke - I don't know, tbh, but the way vivax is pushing VA makes me think it's not VA
Least Confident


WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? I HAD POSTED EVERYTIME I WAS ACTUALLY AROUND WHEN I NOT PLAYING GAMES OR IN CLASS -.- THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG BUT YOUR JUST DUMB TOWN..............

On February 25 2016 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 25 2016 07:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 25 2016 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 25 2016 07:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
Alright so here's the list:
Most confident
LS - He knows his meta as scum is to not post at all and this game most of his posts are spammy and benign (I think I used the word benign already this game oops)
shapelog - I think OWS and Damdred look way more towny
Vivax - He's pushing on VA for something I honestly think is plausible. Two people with bum in their name is something that would throw me off I think.
SL - Seems right.
Breshke - I don't know, tbh, but the way vivax is pushing VA makes me think it's not VA
Least Confident


WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? I HAD POSTED EVERYTIME I WAS ACTUALLY AROUND WHEN I NOT PLAYING GAMES OR IN CLASS -.- THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT YOU ARE DEAD WRONG BUT YOUR JUST DUMB TOWN..............

You had posted yeah, I said you posted don't worry. I just saiud they your posts have been ineffectual, boring, etc

BORING? DUDE I HAD MADE PLENTY OF BORING POSTS AS TOWN YOU DUMB FUCK. YOU KNOW THAT FACT.

On February 25 2016 07:14 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 25 2016 07:13 Fecalfeast wrote:

BECAUSE YOU ARE BEING TERRIBLE YOU DUMB ASS.

On February 25 2016 07:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I need to cool down but FF IS STIL A FUCKING IDIOT FOR MISREADING FOR BULLSHIT THAT I HAD DONE AS TOWN. See ya guys in 5 hours.

On February 25 2016 08:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I had just calmed down playing some league of legends and I just got warned I'm sorry FF but you are wrong on my alignment you really did see me post boring posts and town ect... Let's be friends again?

On February 26 2016 07:08 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 26 2016 07:06 ritoky wrote:
On February 26 2016 07:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Like if I wrong on Rels I will quit TL Mafia that how confident I am in my Rels read right now.


easy to risk quitting when you know his alignment cuz u mafia broski

I not Mafia you idiot.............. I know I'm town and I pretty confident in my Rels meta read.

On February 27 2016 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
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On February 27 2016 08:43 Shapelog wrote:
On February 27 2016 08:40 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 27 2016 08:37 Vivax wrote:
Im still kinda feeling a scum LS here, for the following reasons:

You really stuck your neck out with your bresh read.

How LS changed his opinion on bresh which I mentioned earlier doesnt sit right with me.

Rels doesn't even seem interested into the possibility of lynching LS as displayed during my research this day which is not ideal for scum.

I think this is right now because I had already told you need to get rid of your tinfoil hat because you are wrong on me:
[image loading]

I get my Tinfoil gun Vivax and we can go ham on this payaso.
[image loading]
But in srs. I could a tinfoil way that LS is scum here.

I am not scum............. You know it and so do I. I mean even even this guy tells everything you need to know outside of that.



So the reaction is either fake rage or dismiss, maybe with a joke.

I liked how he handle HF and Damdred pressure early game. Talking about these posts:
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On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that.



Why have you become a parrot LS?

How was I being a parrot? I rather confused.

On May 24 2016 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Seriously you both voting me this early what have become of you our overlord Damdred? How was there any tmi in that post bro? I was giving my exact thoughts. HF is confirmed bias unless he's scum which idk if I could catch Day 1.

On May 24 2016 07:42 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
LS you better not lose yourself.

Bitch I just came off of being Night 2d as VT in Tortoise but you wouldn't know that because you didn't check that game I think lol. Plus I had rolled scum in the last cell game so yeah you might notice a different me this time around.

On May 24 2016 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Tumblewood can you please link my tortoise filter or the day 2 post for our friend holyflare please? I can't do it atm.

On May 24 2016 07:51 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that.



Why have you become a parrot LS?

How was I being a parrot? I rather confused.


Well it's quite simple really. You had backed yourself into a corner revealing both Koshi and I were town thus ignoring my "I could still be the first town," statement.

Further to this you then used Kush's reasoning to escape your inevitable slip thus rendering you as a mere parrot.

[image loading]

Me and had the same thought so(shrugs).

On May 24 2016 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 07:49 Holyflare wrote:
How does you being killed as a VT night 2 in a previous game equate to you being anything in this game?

Different attitude from our precious games together due being night 2'd.

On May 24 2016 07:59 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 07:55 Holyflare wrote:
I have no idea how but you've become less coherent since I've last played with you. I think the facts of this case are overwhelmingly damning and my vote on you stays.

Well for one i on my phone and my phone posting is normally not coherent. How the hell is that case damning?
1. Kush and I had the same thoughts.
2. How did I spill you as town? Hell I didn't say koshi was town so you are full of shit.

On May 24 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay just got home didn't want to do more phone posting:
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On May 24 2016 10:36 Damdred wrote:
It's not an over reaction by ls though which kinda makes it funny. He generally is really paranoid about Hf for sure and myself to a lesser extent but he instantly goes to us being crazy and Hf being confirm bias instead of thinking either of us could be scum.

I'm not super sold yet but it's a good thouht

Okay the bolded is bullshit. Storm I did think you were town Day 1 but was completely sold on you being town by your shannies onto TT Day 2. Tortoise I did think you were town Day 1 too. If HF is town he is confirmed bias which I giving him only pass for until he produces new content on other people. Your vote on me seems more like a pressure vote than anything unless you are scum for the same reason you were scum in Gaiden and SotW: In both those games you thought I was scum but never really pushed me hard. But for now I fine with you. Anyways thoughts on HF?

On May 24 2016 11:22 LightningStrike wrote:
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On May 24 2016 11:07 Damdred wrote:
I hard defended you in both games pretty heavily while we were alive together.

Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf

In both of those scum games? I remembered you scumreading me or saying oh did you just rolled scum again in SotW. If you talking about Storm and Tortoise then you did sort of but I wasn't being heavily scumread in Tortoise except by HtS but in Storm I was scumread for not producing good content after the pregame stuff.. My Hf is only soft town but need to see more content from him on other people other than me.
Also HF here was my latest town game where I got killed Night 2 by scum:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=LightningStrike



Like, he really tries to explain himself, which is something he didn't do in his best scum game.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:54 GMT
#1933
On May 30 2016 23:52 Superbia wrote:
You may call me mafia but don't call me dumb

I'm not. I'm already frustrated at being in most scumlists so I know it's hard for you to make engaging analyses if you're town when you're the main candidate. But it's a fact that you haven't made a single smart post this game, and it's also a fact that it is how I caught you when you were 3P in that game where you were 3P and why you were lynched N2 in that game where you were scum with me.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:58 GMT
#1937
On May 30 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
I'm all about townie tinfoil but you just wayy branched of from your other proposed scumteam. Why?

Cause Tumble said dumb things about me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 14:59 GMT
#1939
On May 30 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:
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On May 30 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:
On May 30 2016 23:52 Superbia wrote:
You may call me mafia but don't call me dumb

I'm not. I'm already frustrated at being in most scumlists so I know it's hard for you to make engaging analyses if you're town when you're the main candidate. But it's a fact that you haven't made a single smart post this game, and it's also a fact that it is how I caught you when you were 3P in that game where you were 3P and why you were lynched N2 in that game where you were scum with me.


I think correctly calling out HF when no one else did was pretty smart

No it wasn't. You called one of HF & JAT scum for the sole reason they were pushing you, and only voted him after he self voted.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 15:11 GMT
#1944
On May 31 2016 00:07 Damdred wrote:
One thing that's kinda eh to me is that hf wouldn't wait to self vote until super got on before him in that case.

Just so weird ruining any cred your partners could get by bussing

HF was talking about being unable to play since on car & no phone, on his last post was 1 hour before Superbia's return post & vote that evening, so it's entirely possible he couldn't have waited that even if he wanted to.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 15:58 GMT
#1947
On May 31 2016 00:14 Vivax wrote:
Id like anyone scurmeading SL to make an actual case. Palmar and kush that would be. I still see no reason to lynch him over superbia today.

There is no clear scumtells. But the reasonment is the following:
He's not really invested in the game.
He always gets really invested in the game at some point as town.
He always has a hard time caring for the game as scum.

There is also POE. You are townie, Palmar is townie, he's not.
On that note, leaving work see you later folks (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 15:58 GMT
#1948
On May 31 2016 00:57 Palmar wrote:
you deserve everyone's scumlist rels. You've done some shady shit this game.

no
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 17:20 GMT
#1950
I decided that I would townread me if I wasn't me. I don't look like scum!me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 17:23 GMT
#1951
On May 31 2016 02:05 Vivax wrote:
The worst I see in SL's filter which is recent is the way he gets worked up about JAT getting NKd and afterwards adds that damdred might be mafia.

It's bad cause I don't see him getting emotional about Damdred not getting killed unless he is really really convinced that Damdred is town. Which afterwards turns out he isn't. So if Damdred at some point turns out to be town which atm I think he is then that's an argument for SL being mafia, cause he accidentally might have slipped out that he knows Damdred is town.

Looked like a failed attempt at looking like his town play when he finds something super interesting to say TBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 20:36 GMT
#1954
On May 31 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:
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On May 30 2016 23:27 Rels wrote:
On May 30 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
o shit I forgot to tell you guys
rels's pressure on kush to answer his tmi question is bad
like, he's trying to threaten kush but what he's saying isn't threatening in the least
+ Show Spoiler +
holy shit this is my first day at a computer since monday and it feels so good

First, that doesn't make sense.
Second, why did you make this post:
On May 30 2016 09:16 Tumblewood wrote:
now that that's out of the way, I might start thinking about the game

town
me
Damdred I guess
kush I guess
LS
vivax
SL, probably

mafia
Rels
Palmar, maybe? fear lynch at best right now

really mafia
hm gee I wonder who it is

so today we can lynch superbia and he'll flip scum and then mafia kills damdred or someone and then we lynch rels and he flips scum or if he doesn't mafia kills another confirmed town and the next day we either lynch palmar or stop listening to a gameplan made on d3. sounds good? sounds good.

when apparently you weren't even caught up ?

disagree on both counts. the first quote makes sense and I was caught up for the second one.
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On May 30 2016 23:31 Rels wrote:
On May 30 2016 14:01 Tumblewood wrote:
On May 30 2016 00:04 Rels wrote:
Superbia still hasn't made a single smart post this game.
Superbia's vote on HF was late, after HF already gave up.
Superbia's vote on marv was late, as if he wanted to see if marv would fire up before casting a vote.
Superbia's aggression is really reminiscent of his past scum games.

This post:
On May 26 2016 16:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm super envious about the sway Palmar/Marv have. Especially when it's now obvious I was not crazy.

Made me realize that Superbia calling one of HF / JAT scum with for the sole reason they were pushing him smells like TMI.

He's very likely scum.

Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech.

Yeah like in that JAT game where I was afraid to call you scum when I was pushing you D1 through D6 right.
It's possible LS is miller actually, Tumble is saying a lot of nonsense right now

that isn't nonsense rels, and you should be good enough to know. the "very likely scum" is super weak for a post that was at best trying to drive a point home (because it's not like super=scum was original at the time).

Yeah, I have enough experience to affirm this means nothing.
The first thing is weird, let me check
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 30 2016 20:39 GMT
#1955
OK it makes sense that you were caught up for the second post actually
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:30 GMT
#2008
On May 31 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote:
let see who mafia can lynh

Dandred - nope tracked tumbles no nk delervery NOPE
kush- nope or tumble or ls because copped
Ls- NOPE
tumble- NOPE

that leaves those 3 and me and vivax.

Now vivax is defending me which is against his win con so hes never fucking mafia. That and hes obvious town. So you got me whos obvious town this makes the game auto as fuck.

Palmar/rels/super also what do they have in common? THEY ALL WANT TO FUCKING KILL ME. Mafia needs 2 or 3 mislynches ot win. They always have to kill me to win because they nked jat for some reason over dandred.

SO vivax is pretty much confirmed town by not wanting to kill me when mafia has to kill me to win ( we went over this a few times)

So if im mafia whos my partner? no one because everyone wants to kill me.

Simple

This post is townie
There is no reason for SL to start feeling pressure to the point of tryharding as scum since ... well he's obv not getting lynched now since it's a waste of time. So if SL is scum he's tryharding a lot for a small gain right now - and that is something scum!SL has a hard time doing
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 31 2016 08:31 GMT
#2009
On May 31 2016 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
also koshi was the first nk of the freakin game. what did me and koshi have in common?

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everything including townreading you in a mindmeld post. Every fucking read we had all day 1 was the same and he was nked. probably not something I would do as mafia. I was his top town read ffs

LOL when Koshi died we had the exact same reads. You cannot use this to indicate you're town if you're scumreading me at the same time.
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