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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:49 GMT
#1280
On May 27 2016 03:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:48 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:43 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

What about it is a lie? What do my interactions with HF have to do with it?


The bolded part. I'm too tired to over it now but it's just not true. We had a (very annoying) argument about whether I knew your meta, and you're presenting your opinion on matter here as fact.

Also your interactions with HF is mafia. Especially the part where you call him null after I force you to give him a read.

Yes, and did you ask people about my meta? Did you check it?
No, you didn't. You were content fighting over it instead when you were clearly in the wrong. Why? Noone knows.

My interactions with HF are mafia/mafia? Earlier you said I was buddying him. Do you really think I would buddy a teammate as mafia? You did not force me to give a read. You asked me and I told you. And I am dying to here how you justify nullreading HF this early in the game as a thing that makes me mafia.


Join hands with HF -> "uhh no he's null" -> ends up voting him.

Nice.

Your point?

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:50 GMT
#1283
On May 27 2016 03:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:
This OMGUS is such a kneejerk reaction that it's very unlikely to come from town. I am universally townread. There is plenty of reason to think so. Yet you feel the need to defend yourself by calling me mafia.


Are you seriously being universally town read? What a joke.

There is noone who is calling me mafia besides you and a lot of people calling me town. What a joke indeed.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:54 GMT
#1288
On May 27 2016 03:51 Vivax wrote:
Hi guys, here's what caught my eye so far.

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On May 24 2016 07:46 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 24 2016 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any fail. I could still easily be the first town.

Well your reaction to Koshi's post suggest otherwise


On May 24 2016 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see how Koshi having sexual relations with my mother has anything to do with that.



Why have you become a parrot LS?

How was I being a parrot? I rather confused.


Well it's quite simple really. You had backed yourself into a corner revealing both Koshi and I were town thus ignoring my "I could still be the first town," statement.

Further to this you then used Kush's reasoning to escape your inevitable slip thus rendering you as a mere parrot.

*fuck pictures in my quotes -V*


I don't believe HF went so far with wifom as to do what I think he did here, presumably spewing Koshi as town himself. Imo a followup here asking HF why he thinks Koshi was revealed as town would have given a good reason to lynch him already. The only possible answer would have been "I believe Koshi is town cause LS said he was town and I believe LS is mafia cause he said Koshi is town".

Having said that, I believe Koshi is town just based on this interaction. LS can be anything still. I know HF as a bold busser.

Next up is Damdreds filter cause he kinda hard aligns with HF early on, but not really cause the LS lynch quickly loses steam. When HF wagon starts building up he does something I can't explain to myself:

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On May 26 2016 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Idk super is still bugging me maybe I should listen to my early gut and just Lynch him then Lynch hf for bussing


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On May 26 2016 04:58 Damdred wrote:
Here's the truth, hf is going to flip town 95% of the time. No way he fucks his team mates over even if he's about to go to work mostly unless Marv is his team mate I guess. Then all that cred but yeah


I don't understand why he would expect HF to be bussing in the moment he thinks he's town. It also isn't explained. I also don't get why he now is hedging on super but wants to lynch my slot. Need clarification on this one.

Throughout the HF lynch he sheeped Palmar Marv as a reason to vote HF. Meanwhile defending him but kinda trying to look like he isn't (the it's just piss poor play thing, paraphrased "it's bad, not mafia"). Checking on his reads on the ppl he's sheeping: Marv no read, Palmar coinflip gut town.

What I can tell for sure is that Damdred was either very lazy which already earns him scum points and/or he was looking for a quick reason to become a part of the HF wagon which is also scummy. I want to hear about his HF super bus thingy.

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On May 24 2016 11:07 Damdred wrote:
I hard defended you in both games pretty heavily while we were alive together.

Obviously have a somewhat tr on Hf


In reply to LS the "obviously" seems out of character too. It seems like the kind of obviously you put in there to shrug off suspicion (it's like saying that you don't see the need to explain why), especially cause it's not obvious at all, and so aren't the reasons for such a read on someone like HF.

Are you caught up?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:56 GMT
#1290
On May 27 2016 03:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Nice this Vivax replacement is going to be terrible for the scumteam.

Probably, yes. Regardless of his alignment.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 19:32 GMT
#1292
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#1294
On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.

No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 19:36 GMT
#1295
But if you really want to go ahead. You did this as mafia before though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 19:42 GMT
#1297
On May 27 2016 04:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 04:34 Vivax wrote:
On May 27 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
If you want to rub something in you should work on your reading comprehension first since you don't seem to understand HFs argument. And if I was mafia siding I did a pretty poor job by only voting mafia so far.

I asked if you are caught up. Because if this is you going through the thread it is really unnecessary. Read and then post your thoughts instead of this. FOr example posting your "this makes koshi town" thing is really redundant if you actually read the whole thread.


I think what I'm doing is just fine unless you have some bulletproof reason that Koshi is mafia. Otherwise I just reached the conclusion by other means than others.

No, what I am saying is that Koshi is pretty obviously town and there is 0 reason to post stuff like that if you are caught up.


Wrong, someone could still ask me why I don't think Koshi is mafia, and by preemptively saying why I remove the need of such a question, and let others get insight into what I think since my slot isn't widely considered town.

As usual, any conversation with you just generates clutter, I'll be back to doing my thing.

The point is that it would be far more effective to read the damn thread and then sum up your reads and the reasons for them.
Instead of doing this and giving reads which might change later on. It's really inefficient.

But don't let me stop you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:03 GMT
#1301
On May 27 2016 04:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Lol jat has to bitch about everything

It's not about bitching. This is something Vivax has done as mafia before. Giving updates about things that happened really really early in the game to then pretend to come to the same conclusions as the supposed townleaders.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:09 GMT
#1307
On May 27 2016 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 05:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 27 2016 05:04 Koshi wrote:
Marv is mafia. Shoot him.

How is marv ever mafia in this game? I think you are losing your mind.

He is mafia. Pretty sure.

See, how is anyone supposed to take your reads serious at this point? Earlier you said his filter is really towny. Why is he mafia now?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:20 GMT
#1316
On May 27 2016 05:16 Koshi wrote:
The reason why marv is mafia is because this is the second time he was around in the thread and did absolutely nothing that is worth anything. He also is posting very little about what happened in the previous pages, he just makes some snipey comments at post with a pretty long interval. He is around, he is posting, but he isn't thinking.

He is mafia.

This is all true for today. Don't really think it necessarily makes him mafia though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:21 GMT
#1318
On May 27 2016 05:19 Vivax wrote:
Like the stuff about JAT and his last game doesn't even make sense if it only concerns his filter size as in the 6 days he needed to win the damdred hosted game, he had 15 pages of filter. In this one he has 11 within 1 cycle. That's still a pretty big difference.

It wasn't about filter size. And as much as I love being townread - filter size probably isn't the best way to read me. The damdred game was just horribly inactive and I killed everyone who did something against that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:22 GMT
#1319
On May 27 2016 05:20 Koshi wrote:
currently my scumteam is kush/marv

Let's see what it is in 5 minutes :p
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:28 GMT
#1323
On May 27 2016 05:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 05:19 Vivax wrote:
Like the stuff about JAT and his last game doesn't even make sense if it only concerns his filter size as in the 6 days he needed to win the damdred hosted game, he had 15 pages of filter. In this one he has 11 within 1 cycle. That's still a pretty big difference.

It wasn't about filter size. And as much as I love being townread - filter size probably isn't the best way to read me. The damdred game was just horribly inactive and I killed everyone who did something against that.


Can you translate that quote to something that makes sense then? Cause it doesn't. He says last time you were mafia it was cause he didn't pay attention.

It doesn't make sense and I think I pointed it out at the time.
He said after that game that one of the reasons he couldn't figure out that I am mafia in that game was that he didn't read a big part of my posts/didn't pay attention to them due to not having time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:30 GMT
#1324
On May 27 2016 05:27 Koshi wrote:
We need to lynch marv asap.

See, and here is where we disagree. I agree that marv has not been at his usual town level. But if he is mafia he is just a gimme lynch later on. And if we get his buddy he probably just concedes anyways. I will let him live at least as long as we keep lynching mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 20:31 GMT
#1325
And I have really no idea what mafia marv thinks he gains by bussing HF there. Unless he is with palmar again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 21:12 GMT
#1333
On May 27 2016 06:09 marvellosity wrote:
Like I just don't get how people can rationalise me being 2nd on the hf wagon and promoting the towniness of the first guy in order to needlessly get rid of the guy who can actually carry the team in favour of me who blatantly can't.

How do I make it through like 5 more cycles that way? It's so insane

In general - yes. But on the other hand HF probably wouldn't have carried anyone this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 21:33 GMT
#1335
So,

People I would not lynch at least for tomorrow:

6. Koshi
7. Palmar
8. marvellosity
13. nnn_thekushmountains

People I wouldn't lynch without a good case:

5. LightningStrike
10. sicklucker
12. Tumblewood

People I would maybe lynch:

2. Damdred
3. Vivax (depending on what he does from here on out - so far he hasn't been very impressive)
4. Rels

People who should die:

11. Superbia


I don't even know what to tell a vig since we don't have really bad lurkers (yay!). So probably just shoot super.
Cop will and should do whatever he wants since we already eliminated cophate.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 21:51 GMT
#1340
On May 27 2016 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
Basically koshi when you can be 1% as right as me me, you can have a voice. Try it sometime

He chose a new strategy for this game. 180 all of your reads every few hours and you are always right for a while.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 21:53 GMT
#1341
Just don't mistake my "do not lynch" guys as gamelong townreads if I die. Those do not exist except for Koshi (probably).
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