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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:12 GMT
#1234
On May 27 2016 02:08 Superbia wrote:
Just shoot JAT if there's a vigi and hopefully we can win before that.

And that's also why you are mafia. Blind OMGUS for 0 reason.

Can't you at least make me laugh by inventing some case on me? Pretty poor mafia play.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:14 GMT
#1235
On May 27 2016 02:07 Superbia wrote:
We're not lynching me.

Oh who am I kidding, I'm going to get misslynched on d3 because nobody cares that I actually straight up called out at least 1 mafia which got him lynched in the end.

Like, it is pretty much impossible for a sane human being to think you had any part in getting HF lynched.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:31 GMT
#1238
On May 27 2016 02:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions.


The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards.

I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs).

Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view.

Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player.

And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player.


this post is really smart and townie.

No, it is not. It was misrepresenting the argument against him and completely avoided the issue. There is 0 towny thought in it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:32 GMT
#1239
On top of misrepresenting my meta.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:36 GMT
#1242
On May 27 2016 02:34 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:41 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 25 2016 02:16 Superbia wrote:
Kay I'm here.

HF/JAT. Explain how that point is relevant.

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

Why don't you tell us? Apparently I am way too short sighted to identify your certainly brilliant and towny intentions.


The grand problem with HF's 'push' is that it assumes I am asking for LS's read because I think LS is town and I want to know his opinion on kush because I don't have a good read on him. It could not be more ass backwards.

I thought LS was sort of kinda-ish on the scummy side, and him calling two people town (both questionable reads imo) and questioning a third (kush) in the same post indicates to me that he was not reading kush town (someone whom I believe is likely town at this point) seemed to traverse him more in that direction, so I asked him for a hard read on kush (the read he gave was sort of meh). That being said, I have a decent meta-read on LS (I think), so I'm not drawing any conclusion of this yet. Just means he's starting off in the poor side of town (shitty suburbs).

Now this what I do all the time as town, and I have never (iirc) asked for a genuine opinion on someone to become more informed. The question is always to get to know more about the person questioned, rather than the subject. This is like standard 101 townplay, which I why I am very confused as to why a good 'town' player would jump on this with this utterly absurd and simplistic point of view.

Hence why I am skeptical of HF, as this is his second garbage push. And he's (supposed to be) a good player.

And even more skeptical of you, because you have been buddying up to HF early on, even though I don't think anyone should have a town read on HF. And you're a very anal town player.


this post is really smart and townie.

No, it is not. It was misrepresenting the argument against him and completely avoided the issue. There is 0 towny thought in it.


I think it highlighted exactly what was wrong with HF's push. You usually ask someone for a read so that you can read that person you asked. Why would it matter how you are reading that person?
It's not like the person he's asking is gonna think "oh now I know he thinks kush is townie, I know exactly how to answer that question to look townie myself"

Erm, yes it is exactly like that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:37 GMT
#1244
On May 27 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer.

Of course it is. Wtf are you smoking?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:40 GMT
#1247
On May 27 2016 02:37 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On top of misrepresenting my meta.


Don't scumread someone for not knowing your meta as well as you know it yourself.

Why? He played more than enough games with me and he did the same to palmar in his last scum hame.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:43 GMT
#1248
On May 27 2016 02:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer.

Of course it is. Wtf are you smoking?


JAT. I think koshi is town. What's your read on Koshi?

How is me thinking Koshi town going to affect you at all?
And it's not going to help you as scum either. I'm not giving you reasons why, and that's what you need to make up as scum.

Of course it is going to help me. Wtf is this bullshit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:46 GMT
#1251
On May 27 2016 02:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:39 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:36 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
omg that was confusing.
A asks B how he's reading C. A really wants a read on B, so it doesn't matter how he's reading C. And sharing his read on C is not going to affect B's answer.

Of course it is. Wtf are you smoking?


JAT. I think koshi is town. What's your read on Koshi?

How is me thinking Koshi town going to affect you at all?
And it's not going to help you as scum either. I'm not giving you reasons why, and that's what you need to make up as scum.

Of course it is going to help me. Wtf is this bullshit.

How is my opinion going to help you make up an opinion of your own?

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 17:48 GMT
#1252
Grrr


It lets me know if the guy is lynchable or not and what you expect the read to be. Basically everything I need as mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:00 GMT
#1258
On May 27 2016 02:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
the lack of vivax is disturbing


Probably optimal vigi shot

Yes. Since we don't have any other lurking shitters for once.

So it's either that slot or yours for being mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:01 GMT
#1259
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
i can very much see where kush is coming from on this one

Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:03 GMT
#1260
On May 27 2016 02:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Right but as scum, the hard part is saying WHY someone is town or scum. By giving you my opinion, I'm not helping you do that.

Also, scum's opinion isn't really based on the opinion of one person. It's based on what they think will make them look townie, and they think will help them win. Town sentiment matters to them, but the opinion of one person early game is not going to influence them.

I don't know how constructive this argument is. I feel like I'm not getting through to you at all. Please just keep an open mind going forward about the possibility of a damdred / LS scumteam.

I am certainly not disregarding that possibility. Don't worry.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:08 GMT
#1263
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
i can very much see where kush is coming from on this one

Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:25 GMT
#1265
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
i can very much see where kush is coming from on this one

Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:39 GMT
#1268
On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
i can very much see where kush is coming from on this one

Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

What about it is a lie? What do my interactions with HF have to do with it?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:42 GMT
#1270
I was asking about the lie part. Because, you know, there are 0 lies in that post.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:46 GMT
#1274
On May 27 2016 03:43 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 02:50 marvellosity wrote:
i can very much see where kush is coming from on this one

Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

What about it is a lie? What do my interactions with HF have to do with it?


The bolded part. I'm too tired to over it now but it's just not true. We had a (very annoying) argument about whether I knew your meta, and you're presenting your opinion on matter here as fact.

Also your interactions with HF is mafia. Especially the part where you call him null after I force you to give him a read.

Yes, and did you ask people about my meta? Did you check it?
No, you didn't. You were content fighting over it instead when you were clearly in the wrong. Why? Noone knows.

My interactions with HF are mafia/mafia? Earlier you said I was buddying him. Do you really think I would buddy a teammate as mafia? You did not force me to give a read. You asked me and I told you. And I am dying to here how you justify nullreading HF this early in the game as a thing that makes me mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:48 GMT
#1276
This OMGUS is such a kneejerk reaction that it's very unlikely to come from town. I am universally townread. There is plenty of reason to think so. Yet you feel the need to defend yourself by calling me mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 26 2016 18:49 GMT
#1279
On May 27 2016 03:48 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2016 03:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:43 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:38 Superbia wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:25 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:09 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2016 03:01 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
Sure. I am not saying this makes kush mafia. But it doesn't make him right and even if it did it would not make superbia town.
Can you honestly say that you think superbias filter looks like town?

i'm saying the post he quoted did actually look decent to me

Like I said - it didn't adress anything, was based on incorrect facts and besides that I do not see how it is towny in any way.
But okay, you are free to disagree. This one post does not make him town or mafia. The rest of his filter does though.

i should probably read it at some point

If you just read the posts without context/without looking at the overall play his filter until today doesn't even seem that bad. But you have to wonder why he wasn't on HF way earlier and why there are basically 0 interesting things in there. Why he feels the need to fight with me over stuff he could easily fact check instead. Why once he says "he can easily read me" and once how "he has almost 0 experience playing with me" and doesn't remember any games.
How his tone is abrasive and destructive for no reason which is something that is very prominent in his mafia games. Especially the posts today are just not coming from a town mindset.


Mafia. This is such a lie.

Look at the interactions between HF and JAT.

What about it is a lie? What do my interactions with HF have to do with it?


The bolded part. I'm too tired to over it now but it's just not true. We had a (very annoying) argument about whether I knew your meta, and you're presenting your opinion on matter here as fact.

Also your interactions with HF is mafia. Especially the part where you call him null after I force you to give him a read.

Yes, and did you ask people about my meta? Did you check it?
No, you didn't. You were content fighting over it instead when you were clearly in the wrong. Why? Noone knows.

My interactions with HF are mafia/mafia? Earlier you said I was buddying him. Do you really think I would buddy a teammate as mafia? You did not force me to give a read. You asked me and I told you. And I am dying to here how you justify nullreading HF this early in the game as a thing that makes me mafia.


Join hands with HF -> "uhh no he's null" -> ends up voting him.
Your point?
Nice.

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