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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:00 GMT
#1421
and scott shit
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:11 GMT
#1423
idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush

I just realized that kush was the first to post
On June 06 2016 11:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 05:05 scott31337 wrote:
I still haven't gotten my role and I've PM'ed all three hosts phhbbt I have to vote though


Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 05:20 scott31337 wrote:
Alright I finally got it I'm town

I kept thinking if I was mafia with QT and had already voted for him it'd be really bad lol


oh god this is so townie unfortunately.


Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation.

Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL)
On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Shitlist
Ec
Tt
Tw
Ff


This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic

On June 08 2016 08:11 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2016 08:01 Jealous wrote:
On June 08 2016 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
i would kill BTDT still, yeah. That post where he game QT a pass for being active but then scumread jealous without mentioning his activity is still in my mind

But how would that make sense for a scum strategy?

The only plot that would make sense to me is that he knew QT would be lynched (should verify timestamp on this post vs. vote count at the time?), which is good for scum, so he wanted to bring me down once QT flipped town because I'd be seen as the major instigator of the movement, which is good for scum because I am town.

This actually makes sense, now that I think about it. However, it depends on the timestamp. I can't check it right now and I'll be home in a few hours but if someone can do that now it would give more credit to FF's theory, imo.

You are thinking about this wrong. Scum dont enact some plot. They just try to come up with stuff to say that looks as townie as possible. Most of the time they try to not lynch their scumteam.

Often scum will townread someone who is up for lynch, because they know that person is town, and their objective to look as townie as possible is compelling them to point that out.


Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:16 GMT
#1425
On June 09 2016 06:56 Tictock wrote:
Emp what do you make of the wagon that has formed on you?


to answer this, feels bad man
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:23 GMT
#1429
On June 09 2016 07:19 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:16 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 09 2016 06:56 Tictock wrote:
Emp what do you make of the wagon that has formed on you?


to answer this, feels bad man

What's your role, anyway?


I guess it's about that hour eh
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:24 GMT
#1430
I am VT.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:25 GMT
#1431
Which, I dunno, I feel like should be expected this game
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:27 GMT
#1433
I'm still waiting for the post dump from Jelly tbh
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:40 GMT
#1441
When did you first scum read me Jealous? As far as I can tell a few hours ago, what purpose does it serve town to hold that information over a day?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:43 GMT
#1443
On my end, I said that kush was my #1 a while back, my vote on scott was in an attempt to get him to answer some questions
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:45 GMT
#1445
Although I do think scott's suspicous, it's pretty clear that nothing is happening on that end lol
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:52 GMT
#1450
On June 09 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
When did you first scum read me Jealous? As far as I can tell a few hours ago, what purpose does it serve town to hold that information over a day?

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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 22:58 GMT
#1452
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 08 2016 23:06 GMT
#1459
On June 09 2016 08:00 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:52 emperorchampion wrote:
On June 09 2016 07:40 emperorchampion wrote:
When did you first scum read me Jealous? As far as I can tell a few hours ago, what purpose does it serve town to hold that information over a day?


Show nested quote +
On June 09 2016 07:51 Tictock wrote:
Well w/e it seems like it's just the 3 of us here anyways, so not much else to do but wait it out.

I don't get where Jealous is coming from at all anymore. Given his last reads post an hour or so ago he seemed to be far more suspect of Kush than Emp, and he claimed that he was fairly certain I was town. Yet none of his actions or posts since that reflect those views. If kush flips scum I think Jealous should be the lynch tomorrow.

This was the idea - "shenannis" or whatever seem to be popular. I would make the vote a closer contest, potentially drawing more votes to EC. Depending on the flop, these votes would be suspect. I wait until the last second to switch to kush, effectively giving my vote double the strength in this scenario.


This is some next level shit I can't handle... I feel like I'm getting so played right now.

Fuck I really need to head home now, good god
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 01:23 GMT
#1479
On June 09 2016 09:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.


Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 01:27 GMT
#1480
On June 09 2016 09:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.


Or if you are
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:07 GMT
#1513
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 14:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 10:23 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 09:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also note that this is the same line of reasoning as to why Fecalfeast is likely town. He was the only person to suggest shenannies from the QuickTwist lynch at EoD. If Fecal was Mafia, he would only be pushing off of town which is not what Mafia wants. It's possible Fecal attempted to push off of QuickTwist expecting people not to switch and to look townie off of it but the possibility of that is low enough that we can assume Fecal is town for now and look at other people. Not to mention this does look like his town meta although that’s a less reliable metric.[/QUOTE]

Didn't fecal want to shenanie btdt who you read as town? I'm confused how you read fecal as town from this exchange? If the shenanie goes through and btdt flips town then you read fecal as mafia (very obviously). Just seems like wifom, and the most you can draw from it is null.[/QUOTE]
But there was no need for him to do anything. He could have just avoided attention and let the lynch through. The fact that he said something about it and drew attention to himself makes him more likely to be town. Considering the odds of him being town to scum, I'd say it's more productive to say he's town for now and look for scum elsewhere. Going down tinfoil paths isn't really helpful.

[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 10:27 emperorchampion wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 09 2016 09:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
So as it stands, I want to look between emperor/Skynx again because I do think it’s likely there’s a Mafia between the two of them or I’m wrong and town would just unbelievably screwed at that point.[/QUOTE]

Or if you are [/QUOTE]
Of course. I already hard claimed Mafia. Godfather to be exact. I'm still confused why I'm not lynched by you guys yet.

Ooh nice, I had you pinned as Goon :o
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:08 GMT
#1514
whoops, oh well
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 13:27 GMT
#1515
On June 09 2016 20:11 Jealous wrote:
What if multiple people claim the same role? Would posting first be given any weight, given the disparity of people's sleep schedules?

I just don't see how this works out in town's favor or how it would be manageable.


I think we just hold on for a little bit until everyone has posted, I think if two people claim it's good for town.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 18:54 GMT
#1519
I agree both days went down in a similar manner with maf not having to risk themselves at all, they can just vote however they want.


Now i just need to cook up a huge post to get everyone off my back...
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 09 2016 19:01 GMT
#1520
Also using shenanigans for reads in these scenarios is completely bonkers
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