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Superbia
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Tictock
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On June 06 2016 01:02 QuickTwist wrote: Just Where the fuck are these reads coming from anyways? At least I gave you a little one sentence summary of why I TR these people. On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote: OK I reread the thread, here are my reads: Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch. The Town AF people are: Emperorchampion blkcoffee beentheredonethat Tumblewood These are the people I will not be voting all game. And FYI my first 3-4 posts were very much so not serious and just poking for reactions. You seemed to understand this earlier. Part of my own read on you was because you made that post then jumped onboard when someone gave you some reasoning for it to be scummy. | ||
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Tictock
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Skynx
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On June 06 2016 03:22 Tictock wrote: Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time). I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean". I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well. This also bugged me Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean). I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static. Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already. I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today. Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together. I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here. Oh, I'm sorry. So you claim I was parroting what was mentioned already while I'm the only one to make a proper case? I'm seeing too many of these "I feel QT is scummy" posts but only 3 votes on him so far. Please make your intentions clear people, me doing so and getting scumread for it is quite amusing. For reference: + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 00:15 Tumblewood wrote: Having trouble justifying not voting QT, but not feeling good about voting him, either. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 22:30 Superbia wrote: The jealous/quicky 'debate' was unlikely to be TvT. And I'm tempted to call quicky the mafia, because of jealous reads actually progressed during the 'debate'. But I'm not completely convinced yet. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 08:23 scott31337 wrote: I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 19:38 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Strongly considering stfu lynching qt | ||
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Superbia
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Superbia
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Jealous
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What's that? Inconclusive indicator of alignment?? <- Just a guess. On June 06 2016 02:47 QuickTwist wrote: So apparently, I am getting lynched today for giving town a shit ton of stuff to talk about. OK. That's a false generalization of the arguments presented against you and your defeatist tone reminds me of how I posted when I was Mafia in one of my games way back when. This post to me reads like a weak and desperate last-minute defense. | ||
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QuickTwist
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QuickTwist
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On June 06 2016 04:06 Jealous wrote: t What's that? Inconclusive indicator of alignment?? <- Just a guess. That's a false generalization of the arguments presented against you and your defeatist tone reminds me of how I posted when I was Mafia in one of my games way back when. This post to me reads like a weak and desperate last-minute defense. I told you not to confirmation bias, but you continue to do it nontheless. Very disappointing. | ||
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Jealous
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1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like. 2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum. 3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results. 4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is: 1. Kushmountains 2. Tumblewood 3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all) 4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have) and of course QT. Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. | ||
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Jealous
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On June 06 2016 04:08 QuickTwist wrote: I told you not to confirmation bias, but you continue to do it nontheless. Very disappointing. That's a weak defense as well, because I called you on your false generalization, which is the contributing factor to my consequent line of reasoning. | ||
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Superbia
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Jealous, who are your strongest towns? | ||
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Jealous
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On June 06 2016 04:26 Jealous wrote: Also, I would like to note that Superbia's unvote in the voting thread wasn't counted by the most recent vote count. Why is that? Did he use the wrong syntax?? Actually, he is just listed twice. EBWOP | ||
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QuickTwist
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On June 06 2016 04:21 Jealous wrote: As far as the other posters, I'm glad that people have started pushing some ideas around as we approach the deadline. Here are some thoughts I have on the game so far: 1. I think that a lot of people in this thread are grasping at straws right now, which is understandable because there isn't much to go off of on Day 1. I don't see any utterly clear alliances here as of yet. It seems like a lot of A thinks B is scum who thinks C is scum who thinks D is scum who thinks A is scum, or something of the like. 2. Given the seemingly inconclusive finger-pointing patters so far, we will have to wait to see the results of the lynch and who voted for whom as our next indicator. As of right now, if my hypothesis is correct and QT is scum, then the people who voted alongside him without much early justification would be kushmountains and Tumblewood, who have not changed their vote despite the player being changed out and I found their arguments for removing sqrt to be weak in the first place (inactivity plynch 2 hours into the game, if I recall correctly? on top of that, other people were just as inactive). This is the most alliance-y thing I can point at so far, but it's too early for me to concretely say I feel that they are scum. 3. Following this line of logic, I don't feel that the votes/inclinations on QT are indicative of a scum alliance because most people have shown their own reasons for voting for QT, most of which are valid, or at least more valid in my eyes than a Scott lynch. Of course, if QT flips town it is possible that one or two scum bandwagoned in order to ensure that he wins over Scott in the last voting push, but it will be hard to tell who. It's simply too early to speculate in specific terms about who would be scum or not in this hypothetical scenario, so I will wait until I see all of the votes and their results. 4. I haven't gotten a strong read on anyone, which is probably because I'm newbie. So far my "could be scum" list is: 1. Kushmountains 2. Tumblewood 3. Superbia (weak read on this, don't have much certainty at all) 4. Fecalfeast (too absent, regardless of whatever excuses he may have) and of course QT. Everyone else, as far as I can tell, is townie. Scott can be thrown up there as well for his relative inactivity but I don't think it's fair to judge as quickly because he only learned he was in the game less than 24 hours ago. What if I said YOU could be scum if I turn out to be Town. Baseless you think? Honestly it is really freaking annoying you haven't re-evaluated your read on me and somehow everything I do is scummy to you. That is the definition of confirmation bias. So because you have chosen to no re-evaluate your read on me, even though my content has improved as the shit posting of day 1 decreases. can't help but think you are pushing an agenda. Claiming VT. ##Vote: Jealous | ||
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Jealous
10260 Posts
On June 06 2016 04:43 Superbia wrote: I can't unvote. My vote is too strong for that. Jealous, who are your strongest towns? At the moment, my strongest town leanings are on Tictock and Skynx. I will have to re-read the past few pages again because I feel I may not have fully understood the scumreads other people have about them, but I found their posts to be constructive and deductive, and are simply people I feel I could work with as a town circle based on demeanor. I guess I will summarize these as largely gutreads. I don't think I'm as good at reading town as I am inclined to read scum, perhaps because I am prioritizing finding scum as opposed to finding town, which when I put it this way sounds like a strategy with some holes in it haha. | ||
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Tictock
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