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QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 15:57 GMT
#781
On June 06 2016 00:55 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 00:50 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 06 2016 00:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Having trouble justifying not voting QT, but not feeling good about voting him, either.


yes that is kinda the point. See if scum think they can lynch me that means that I am safe from NK. Since I claim PR, I think you can see how this will be beneficial.

this is a hard claim I assume?
scum totally can lynch you, as evidenced by your leading wagon. and you won't avoid NK if you claim PR. pls just act townie if you're town.


I am Wifoming like a shit ton and I explained its to keep Scum on their toes.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 15:58 GMT
#782
On June 04 2016 15:30 Tictock wrote:
Pfft, I think I can stop reading @ pg 20 kus I already solved this.

Gunna go play a little more overwatch and see if anyone is around a bit later, but I prob picked a bad time to be active.

Not spoiling my reads till tomorrow.


OK once i can understand, but twice? WTAF??
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 16:02 GMT
#783
On June 05 2016 00:34 Tictock wrote:
Ok first thing I feel like talking about, reading based on activity.

Generally I find this to be an unreliable metric. There is some correlation, but it depends pretty heavily on the player in question. Scum can be tryhard and post a ton and town can loose interest or get busy and post very little.

My point?

Plynches based on activity tend to be coin flippy and giving someone a townread kus they are active and posting is weak at best.

It's generally better practice to try and look at the reasons and modivations behind when and why people are posting rather than try and use filter length as a metic. There are some exceptions such as scum-burn out, but even then activity alone is usually not your only indicator.

So the reads I've seen so far like "This dude made a hello post then left! Lynch the scum!" or "Well he's posting a lot so I think he's town" are pretty piss poor imo.


IIoA
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 16:02 GMT
#784
On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote:
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.


Just Where the fuck are these reads coming from anyways?
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 05 2016 16:03 GMT
#785
On June 06 2016 00:58 QuickTwist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 15:30 Tictock wrote:
Pfft, I think I can stop reading @ pg 20 kus I already solved this.

Gunna go play a little more overwatch and see if anyone is around a bit later, but I prob picked a bad time to be active.

Not spoiling my reads till tomorrow.


OK once i can understand, but twice? WTAF??

A joke
TT does not seriously think he's found the entire scum team.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
June 05 2016 16:08 GMT
#786
Probably won't be here till deadline /
good times for all
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 16:18 GMT
#787
On June 06 2016 01:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2016 00:58 QuickTwist wrote:
On June 04 2016 15:30 Tictock wrote:
Pfft, I think I can stop reading @ pg 20 kus I already solved this.

Gunna go play a little more overwatch and see if anyone is around a bit later, but I prob picked a bad time to be active.

Not spoiling my reads till tomorrow.


OK once i can understand, but twice? WTAF??

A joke
TT does not seriously think he's found the entire scum team.


Obviously, but where is the town motive in it? Like can you see Town joking going "I have this game solved already on page 2, Lawl," cuz I can't.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
June 05 2016 17:19 GMT
#788
On June 05 2016 12:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On June 05 2016 08:23 scott31337 wrote:
I read QuickTwist's filter since he's the one I'm tied in votes for, and it's 6 pages of one-liners and a couple of magic early townreads and a "Maybe scum" on Tictock. It's pretty bad - wouldn't mind voting for him


weird because i get the opposite impression. Paragraph after paragraph of text coming from mostly QT and Jealous about some argument they are having.


Could you point out some examples of this for me?
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 05 2016 17:21 GMT
#789
Meh nothing interesting. Scott what are your thoughts?
Minimal effort.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
June 05 2016 17:33 GMT
#790
Vote Count: Day 1


QuickTwist (3): MoosyDoosy, Jealous, Skynx, Tictock
Scott31337 (3): nnn_thekushmountains, QuickTwist, Tumblewood
MoosyDoosy (2): Superbia, beentheredonethat
Skynx (1): Fecalfeast
Superbia (0): QuickTwist

Not Voting (5): emperorchampion, Scott31337, blkcoffee, MoosyDoosy, Superbia

Currently QuickTwist will be executed. Day 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 17:37 GMT
#791
Humm the weekend start is keeping this game pretty dry I see.

I might skim over the game again then since there isn't much new to read, and nothing in the past few pages has really swayed my opinion.

I'm trying to decide how I feel about Scott's slot. Was sorta thinking the way the replacement happened could mean scott's is town, but thats pretty WIFOM and I'm mostly just grasping at straws. Sqrt's opening game posts just felt chatty and not really AI (alignment indicative) but show that he was around and ready to play the first hour of the game. Scott's posts leave a little to be desired... and I'm not sure why he seems so concerned I don't have Jealous as a hard town read.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 05 2016 08:34 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2016 00:55 Tictock wrote:
Some townreads for now, then I'll be back after a shower to talk about scum reads.

Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching.

Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler +
For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads
but I feel fairly confident in it.

Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1.

blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something

There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now.


hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm


Which sure I haven't given any thoughts on Jealous besides
On June 04 2016 17:01 Tictock wrote:
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On June 04 2016 10:11 Jealous wrote:
On June 04 2016 10:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
guys, sqrtneg1
he was here and active when it was just "hello wassup"
but when people started talking actual content, he disappeared.

Whereas you contributed what exactly?


This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now.


I'm reserving my right to hold off giving a real read on him kus a few things have raised an eyebrow but I'm overall liking his posts.


Honestly scott just seems like a coinflip atm and I'm not feeling inclined to lynch him.

I'd like to know why people are keen to lynch him/his slot but nobody seems to be considering FF who arguably has done just as little.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 05 2016 17:40 GMT
#792
What do you think of quicky's scumread on you TT?
Minimal effort.
QuickTwist
Profile Joined May 2016
269 Posts
June 05 2016 17:47 GMT
#793
So apparently, I am getting lynched today for giving town a shit ton of stuff to talk about. OK.
https://youtu.be/pVB_DI4ajKA
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 05 2016 17:52 GMT
#794
Watchugonnadoaboutit?
Minimal effort.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 05 2016 17:53 GMT
#795
OK so I think I'm caught up.

Am I crazy for thinking that Tumble / QT are a mafia pair given the last two pages?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 05 2016 18:03 GMT
#796
I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town.

Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 05 2016 18:12 GMT
#797
I'll check back in a few hours before the deadline, but for now my vote lies with QT
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 05 2016 18:16 GMT
#798
On June 05 2016 12:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
ah what... sqrt has been replaced hmm. that alone points scummy because it indicates he doesn't want to f over his scumteam.


Could also mean he is blue though?
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
June 05 2016 18:22 GMT
#799
Skynx was brought up and I had some misgivings regarding his opening (was going to include him in my post yesturday but ran out of time).

On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean".

I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well.

This also bugged me
On June 04 2016 08:47 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 08:45 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote:
So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts.
Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean.
Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses.
Super is most scummy so far.


Do you think quicky (QT) is town?

He doesn't sound scummy (yet)


Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean).

I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static.
On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2016 09:32 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:29 blkcoffee wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:21 Skynx wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:11 Superbia wrote:
On June 04 2016 09:01 Skynx wrote:
@Super I missed the part where QT townread 4 ppl as I was the 5th to post after daypost.


? But you commented on all my posts which were mostly after daypost, no?

What? Those were after my first post of the day not sure what you're on about.
My point was him making 4 reads is impossible cuz im the 5th poster and he's one out of 4 others. I somehow missed Tumble but yeah i dont think they are serious.


Ah ok so you didn't see exactly 4 down reads. But youbsaw his 3 townreads.
Less exciting now.


Typing on a phone is difficult apparently.

So when you say that quicks townreads aren't serious. Would you consider that cluttering the thread or being clear?

Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake.
They both sound scummy.


Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already.

I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today.




Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together.

I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
June 05 2016 18:32 GMT
#800
I will go to sleep in approx 30m. Haven't decided on who the lynch should be yet. What do people think about kush?
Minimal effort.
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