EPT[M][N]A Wonderful Normal Game of Mafia
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Etellex
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On May 04 2016 13:40 justanothertownie wrote: What format are you familiar with then? Video? I'm familiar with casualized forms of Mafia like Town of Salem where there's a lot less reading into what people say and more logic/evidence. I've been quiet because I'm at a loss for what to go off of for suspicion. | ||
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Faze seems to be jumping around a bit in what our whom he discusses and dropping a lot of conversations. Mig is either town or very good scum, and from his somewhat pushy and productive tone I'm leaning town. | ||
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On May 05 2016 03:30 Fazers wrote: @Shapelog: He makes better reads than I do  @Etellex: I stated a few pages back that 8:30 AM - 5:30 PM I am working (full time) so while I am on a computer, my time to browse TL is quite limited. Also, welcome to the game! :D Thank you for the welcome and explanation. I'm also in a bit of a fragmented schedule so I'm sort of scrambling for any evidence on anyone to base an informed vote off of. | ||
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On May 05 2016 03:49 Shapelog wrote: I am being slapped around again by grammar! Anyways, Anyone else you are leaning town/Scum? Even if you are not sure, post a reason of why you think X is Y. Kush is posting a lot but not making any significant points, almost in a distracting manner. Not enough to warrant a vote on its own but Kush is definitely my top suspect. | ||
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Etellex
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##vote: tubesock | ||
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I have evidently been under a lot of suspicion. I have been hesitant and reserved in this thread until now because of the following: *My only experience with the format being from ToS, drilling into my head that I should be conservative on the information I provide in fear of either being killed or perceived as scum (or executioner in ToS.) This is very clearly a sufficiently different format of play to the point which strategies not being cross-applicable, despite the genre of the game being the same. Think of it as going from Call of Duty to Quake. *I lack the knowledge of how specific players behave that I felt was necessary, so I wanted to be careful with my reads out of not wanting to wrongfully lynch someone or be suspected of diverting attention from myself. Close to the end of the first day, I was very unsure as to who to vote for, but was leaning Kush. I stayed and waited for more posts to come in as to perhaps assist me in placing a confident vote, but I couldn't find any. The player whom I trusted the most was Mig, and because of both Mig's post arguing that we need to focus on one person to lynch and my very shaky read on Kush, I switched my vote to Tube to comply with both Mig's and the majority's vote. I'm now seeing a post suggesting that I did this only to seem to fit in as scum, and while that is sound logic on paper, I really didn't have anything more than gut instinct to go off of for Kush, so the bar for swaying me was low. The bandwagon was better than nothing. Part two: My full thought process thus far. It's clear that I have to be a lot more open as to what I think and who I read in this gamemode, and I will now do just that by summarizing my full though process up until now. I first noticed Fazer due to his very blunt questioning of Tube, and despite that I didn't say anything because of I did not see any importance in this observation, which in hindsight I should have shared. I was then lacking in leads and wanted to post something so I read Kush and Mig, which were the people that stood out to me for their common posting. The Tube vote was made because I really did not have much confidence in my accusation of Kush and I didn't want to stand out too much (I know this is awful, Town of Salem mindset.) Now I'm watching accusations fly and I do think I am the primary lynch target right now, so I hope this wall of text helps me and the rest of town. TL;DR: My inexperience caused me to look suspicious and because I'm inexperienced I didn't know what to do about that so I just dumped all of my thoughts into one post in a desperate attempt to explain myself and regain trust of fellow townies. | ||
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Etellex
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He started the game with nothing but fluff, moved on very aggressively to attacking Ricey for no logical reason, and when that didn't work moved to me in an attempt to start a lynch train. I believe that Ricey, however, is town because he initially believed I was town and then later changed his mind, indicating to me that this isn't scum trying to pin me but someone genuinely changing their mind. I'm not going to officially vote for Killing yet because that's bad for reasons I do not quite understand. Also, can anyone brief me as to why Palmer is getting to much suspicion? I'm reading his filter and I'm not seeing anything all that suspicious. | ||
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Etellex
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Posting fluff only reinforces my point. I've not been all that confident in anything yet in this game, but your intentionally confusing tone and heavy fluff is the biggest clue I've seen in this game by far. @Kush Oh, it's because of the meta. However there are quite a few people who would know how Marv plays, including Palmer and others. For all you know I could be a smurf; a smurf wouldn't be this bad, though, ha. | ||
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On May 07 2016 20:51 RiceyKins wrote: ##Vote: Etellex you seem to have a good read on Palmar marv and I'm on board with his lynch based on your read but I still would be fine with lynching Etellex today as well. His recent posts have made sense to me though as in I understand where he's coming from in terms of trouble posting and style differences from Town of Salem to this... however I don't see that as alignment indicative but his actions are still really leading me to think he's mafia. Honestly right now it's because he said Killing attacked me for no logical reason when even I admitted earlier in this game So I can understand somebody coming after me quite well. Most of my hesitation on Etellex d1 was because we weren't able to see his thought process and how he came to his conclusions but now that we have I'm still not convinced that he's looking for mafia, it seems like he's actively just trying to survive instead of helping town. Do you still read Kush as scum Etellex? Who else other than Killing stands out to you? Right now nothing I say holds water because of all the suspicion on me, so first I want to establish that I am in fact not scum before doing anything crazy. As for Kush, I do now think he's town. What is an interesting possibility is that Palmer actually is scum and when he is revealed it will appear obvious that I am, despite being town. I don't know why someone would go through all that trouble to kill someone who's going to get lynched anyways so I don't think this is 100% the case but in case he does turn out to be mafia I want to have this on record. | ||
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##Vote: Killing | ||
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On May 08 2016 10:20 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: I don't understand what you mean by the bolded. I wanted to bring up and shoot down a point that could be made against me before it could snowball out of control. My argument against the scumteam is that I didn't initiate it so much as be baited by it. Looking at that post again I can see how it makes zero sense because no where did I say what I was countering. I was countering the idea that we were in a scumteam, not the idea that Palmar was trying to portray it as so. TL;DR: Oops I did a typo | ||
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On May 08 2016 12:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Etellex, How was Palmar making it look like you were scum with him? By not voting you? I think we can all agree that whether or not I actually am scum it was unreasonable for Palmar to trust me as much as he did. | ||
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Not much to discuss here. | ||
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On May 10 2016 08:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: etellex, you should surrender! What? | ||
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I went on a filter-reading spree and I have some new thoughts on who is and isn't mafia. I noticed that killing was scumreading both Sandroba and Palmer, which would be a stupid thing to do as scum, and kush did the same. What this leads me to believe is that Killing isn't scum, just intentionally confusing. Kush also appears to be town. I don't have any scumreads but this is what I noticed. Also Killing jesus christ lay off of Ricey, you have no reason to be this suspicious. | ||
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##Vote: Alakaslam | ||
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I'm willing to bet he'd be playing the same way as both mafia and town at this point which throws me off. What makes this whole situation so difficult is that I most likely would play very similarly if I were mafia. If anything, I suppose I could bring up the point that I've talked about myself a lot, which is one of the things I don't really like doing as mafia. Of course from your perspective there's no way to verify that claim, so it's on me to bring up more reasons. I tend to be a lot more into mafia games when I'm scum because it's much more of an intense experience to have to carefully engineer my posts and replies in such a way that I appear to be town while simultaneously not giving away my allies. In my town games such as this one I tend to act more natural and relaxed, because I can somewhat rely on the fact that I actually am town to subconsciously write town-sounding posts. I think I've had a tone of "knowledge is power" this game in regards to investigating me. I have been very open with my thoughts and I have even acknowledged possible arguments against me. This is a very different post of mine from the rest, because at this time in the game I have much more of a responsibility to not get mislynched, so I'm going to start taking this more seriously and posting more like this. | ||
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Etellex
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who do you think is left who you think could be mafia Etellex? My reads from most to least suspicious. If I missed anyone tell me because I can be an idiot. Fazers: 30/70 Mafia. I'm just now looking over his filter and holy shit even I've said more than he has. The entire game for Fazers has just been dodging any discussion while still casually staying relevant without really contributing. My current pick for lynch. Riceykins: 65/35 Townie. He's discussed me the most out of anyone, this is something I haven't really noticed until now. He also seems to think I'm scum, but he backs those claims up with reasoning. Seems to be reasonable, though. Killing: 80/20 Townie. This guy is weird because everything about him from his tone to his intentionally confusing posts to his weird obsession with Ricey is countered by the fact that he outed both Palmar and Sandroba as mafia and said that both Marv and Kush were town. I don't know if this guy is just trolling or if he's pulling of some next-level meta shit. Going with the former for now. JAT: 85/15 Townie. Read his filter and he is really pushing for more discussion and discussing a lot himself, which would be a really risky move as mafia. He seems to be an experienced player, however, so I don't know if he's good enough to be able to fake all of this; I strongly doubt it though. | ||
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I have found little evidence of Ricey being scum, but there same goes for evidence of him being town. | ||
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##vote: RiceyKins | ||
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I also find it funny that every call I made this game was wrong. >Accused Kush >Accused Killing >Kept accusing Killing >Defended Palmar >Accused Ricey It's an art, really. | ||
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