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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:31 GMT
#876
lol shapelog, jat is paranoid of you.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:32 GMT
#877
if he's town i mean...
scumslip.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:35 GMT
#880
On May 07 2016 02:33 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:25 Shapelog wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:20 Shapelog wrote:
On May 06 2016 23:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Scumlist 2.0

3) Fazers
4) Etellex
5) Sandroba
6) JAT
9) Palmar

The only interesting thing here is maybe JAT, everything else is boring.

Boring and probably pretty wrong.

I townread you, so you should townread me back. I think that's how it's supposed to work.

Since when have I follow that logic?

Or have you forgotten OMGUS and why I am banned basically from there?


I was just kidding of course. You are welcome back anytime. Please, come back and read my weekly blog. Also, I am hosting/playing in a game that you should join.

Hhmmmm

Are you done trying to semi-buddy me like you been trying to do all game?


No. But as your buddy you have my full attention. So isn't there some question you can ask to help you figure out my alignment?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:38 GMT
#883
On May 07 2016 02:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
if he's town i mean...
scumslip.

???

what i said was a scumslip. You don't see it or you don't agree?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:39 GMT
#886
On May 07 2016 02:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
lol shapelog, jat is paranoid of you.


for jat to be paranoid, he would have to be town.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:40 GMT
#888
On May 07 2016 02:38 Alakaslam wrote:
I am a fan of staying the course. Palmar seems too townie right now.

Call him svengali master but he has pretty much convinced me that others could have shot Marv.


what did he say to convince you? i saw no convincing.

Even if you disregard that argument, palmar is still a great lynch. Why do you disagree?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:47 GMT
#892
@shapelog.
in regards to palmar, I changed my mind.
Why? I realized that thinking Killing was scummy actualyl wasn't a result of insight. It was just a very obvious place to go. So it's not townie that Palmar went there.

criticizing jat for doing something I was doing: Um, well not exactly because I had JAT in my possibly scumlist, but kinda. I was trying to goad JAT into mindmelding with me but it didn't really work. I wanted him to say something like "yeah bro, but who else?!"
So that push on JAT wasn't about seeing if he was scummy, rather it was about seeing if he was townie.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:51 GMT
#894
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:53 GMT
#897
On May 07 2016 02:51 Shapelog wrote:
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On May 07 2016 02:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@shapelog.
in regards to palmar, I changed my mind.
Why? I realized that thinking Killing was scummy actualyl wasn't a result of insight. It was just a very obvious place to go. So it's not townie that Palmar went there.

criticizing jat for doing something I was doing: Um, well not exactly because I had JAT in my possibly scumlist, but kinda. I was trying to goad JAT into mindmelding with me but it didn't really work. I wanted him to say something like "yeah bro, but who else?!"
So that push on JAT wasn't about seeing if he was scummy, rather it was about seeing if he was townie.

Alright I understand the Palmar

But why are you trying to get your scum read to think? like you, and make him do so? That doesn't make sense. You know that he/she will only think like you due to you goating them into doing so. So that doesn't make them townie needless to say. Since they are just going with the flow.

It really is impossible to use that as a metric IMO to see if someone is town.....


maybe goading is the wrong word. Maybe the angle I was pushing at there was not effective. But it should be understandable that I was trying to get inside JAT's head. And I was trying to see if it looked like the inside of my own head.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 17:58 GMT
#902
On May 07 2016 02:54 Shapelog wrote:
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On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"

But you say that they are typically wrong,
which means that you do not believe in what you are currently viewing them.
But you continue on, and post another post with the list. And only remove Fazer because of something ulrealted.

which makes me think you do not even believe the thing you sent to JAT.

and you taught me, that if it seems someone won't believe his own reads, they are mafia.

Which means your mafia, by your own reasoning.


My reads are a best guess. I've POEd into that group of people. Maybe I towned someone like Alakaslam prematurely. I don't really have a strong belief that anyone is scum.

I think my list looks too easy. That means it's unlikely but it's still possible. Some games are just easy.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:02 GMT
#903
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:07 GMT
#905
Remember that newbie you rolled scum in. That is me strongly believing something. You see the difference right?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:13 GMT
#907
On May 07 2016 03:08 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 03:02 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am looking at the game in two different ways here.
One is based on townreads/scumreads. That has produced that list
One is based on the assumption that reads don't count for shit. That has made me skeptical about that list. Because if your picks are the picks that people are statistically the most wrong about, that makes you more likely to be wrong.

So you decided to look at the game in a way that counters the other way?

What does the last one even mean? Not to read at all, "Reads do not count for shit?" How are you even suppose to solve the game?


well you can't rely on the second approach alone, but it helps you second guess your reads.

Is this helping you get a read on me?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:15 GMT
#909
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:15 GMT
#911
why would voting early necessarily mean I should be super sure?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:20 GMT
#913
On May 07 2016 03:17 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 03:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
just because i vote early doesn't mean im super sure. i think he's the best lynch right now is all.

What makes him better right now.

lack of activity makes him a good plynch
the nk on marv, especially after palmar townread him
nothing townie in what he's saying
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:27 GMT
#916
dude i'm not vs him because im townread him
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:35 GMT
#922
that seems too risky for alakaslam if palmar is scum.

he gains nothing due to his low influence.
he risks a lot due to the probability that palmar will be lynched.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 18:51 GMT
#926
you're a dick so yes it will be. even killing doesn't like you.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 06 2016 20:09 GMT
#928
On May 07 2016 03:53 Killing wrote:
I thought by default people don't like palmar


what does that have to do with you not liking him?
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