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Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
May 07 2016 03:54 GMT
#961
On May 07 2016 07:09 Etellex wrote:
I'm thinking Killing is scum.

He started the game with nothing but fluff, moved on very aggressively to attacking Ricey for no logical reason, and when that didn't work moved to me in an attempt to start a lynch train.

I believe that Ricey, however, is town because he initially believed I was town and then later changed his mind, indicating to me that this isn't scum trying to pin me but someone genuinely changing their mind. I'm not going to officially vote for Killing yet because that's bad for reasons I do not quite understand. Also, can anyone brief me as to why Palmer is getting to much suspicion? I'm reading his filter and I'm not seeing anything all that suspicious.


Etellex uses Lynch! It was not very effective
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 07 2016 04:20 GMT
#962
@Etellex,
why is palmar under suspicion you ask.
Well, he's done nothing to show to us that he's townie. That is due to IRL, but in Mafia sometimes you're guilty until proven innocent.
Another part of it was that Marv was targeted for the NK tonight. A newer player probably would not have tried to NK Marv, since he was not active and there was some suspicion on him. Palmar is aware of how good Marv can play, though.
Also Palmar was townreading Marv. This is further incentive to NK him, since it's harder for scum to get a mislynch someone they are townreading.
Etellex
Profile Joined April 2016
36 Posts
May 07 2016 05:29 GMT
#963
@Killing
Posting fluff only reinforces my point. I've not been all that confident in anything yet in this game, but your intentionally confusing tone and heavy fluff is the biggest clue I've seen in this game by far.

@Kush
Oh, it's because of the meta. However there are quite a few people who would know how Marv plays, including Palmer and others. For all you know I could be a smurf; a smurf wouldn't be this bad, though, ha.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 07 2016 07:18 GMT
#964
On May 07 2016 12:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 07 2016 08:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does he gets going when he is going mean? And how is that an answer to my question?

When he actually plays he is excellent and he has cited irl.


i dont see how that convinced you he's not scum

Has convinced me not to lynch him.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 07 2016 09:23 GMT
#965
On May 07 2016 08:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Jat want to explain your transition from
No plynches
To
We have to take out the trash?

Is it merely the revelation that there's no vig?

No vig is one part of it, yes. Also there is a difference between day1 and the rest of the game. I don't like to policy lynch on day1 - at least not on players who are usually very active later in the game and who have a rl excuse.
Day1 is over, Palmar had time to contribute. At some point we just have to lynch him if he doesn't. His posts since then were also really underwhelming so it isn't even a policy lynch, he is just scummy.
On May 07 2016 12:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"

And why? Because I wouldn't call Palmar or sandroba lynchbait.

Palmar is right that without a vig we need to take out the trash ourselves. There is no way around it regardless of your feelings.


@JAT, So you're following Palmar's advice despite thinking hes scum and voting him?

Yes. So what?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 07 2016 09:24 GMT
#966
On May 07 2016 16:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 12:18 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 09:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 07 2016 08:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What does he gets going when he is going mean? And how is that an answer to my question?

When he actually plays he is excellent and he has cited irl.


i dont see how that convinced you he's not scum

Has convinced me not to lynch him.

How? He hasn't done shit.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 07 2016 10:55 GMT
#967
Which post is actually scummy jat?

Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much.

Also, someone somewhere said I was townreading marv on day 1. That's not really true, I just prefer to not call him mafia until I have a reason to to make my life easier.

Killing still sounds overly hostile and annoyed. he's probably mafia.
Computer says mafia
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 07 2016 11:05 GMT
#968
Palmar, you said you looked at jatbamd Marv and they didn't look off.
Then you said n1 that Marv was confirmed town for not replacing. That was sort of joking but sort of not.

So Marv as town looked like your strongest read.

Anyway...
Palmar Jat Alakaslam is starting to look pretty likely to me.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 07 2016 11:12 GMT
#969
On May 07 2016 18:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 08:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Jat want to explain your transition from
No plynches
To
We have to take out the trash?

Is it merely the revelation that there's no vig?

No vig is one part of it, yes. Also there is a difference between day1 and the rest of the game. I don't like to policy lynch on day1 - at least not on players who are usually very active later in the game and who have a rl excuse.
Day1 is over, Palmar had time to contribute. At some point we just have to lynch him if he doesn't. His posts since then were also really underwhelming so it isn't even a policy lynch, he is just scummy.

Isn't taking out the trash regarding inactives like Sandroba, ettelex?
And btw do you still want to lynch Sandrobas spot?

Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 12:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"

And why? Because I wouldn't call Palmar or sandroba lynchbait.

Palmar is right that without a vig we need to take out the trash ourselves. There is no way around it regardless of your feelings.


@JAT, So you're following Palmar's advice despite thinking hes scum and voting him?

Yes. So what?

If Scum wants to take out the trash, trash is probably not scum. It makes no sense that you are adapting one of your scumreads strategies without being suspicious of his motives.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 07 2016 11:13 GMT
#970
On May 07 2016 20:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Palmar, you said you looked at jatbamd Marv and they didn't look off.
Then you said n1 that Marv was confirmed town for not replacing. That was sort of joking but sort of not.

So Marv as town looked like your strongest read.

Anyway...
Palmar Jat Alakaslam is starting to look pretty likely to me.

Feel free to explain how this makes any sense at all at any point in time.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 07 2016 11:16 GMT
#971
On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
Which post is actually scummy jat?

Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much.

Also, someone somewhere said I was townreading marv on day 1. That's not really true, I just prefer to not call him mafia until I have a reason to to make my life easier.

Killing still sounds overly hostile and annoyed. he's probably mafia.

On May 06 2016 16:15 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 20:03 Palmar wrote:
yeah he sort of does sometimes.

tbh, he hasn't replaced out so confirmed town.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2016 20:04 Palmar wrote:
point is, he will either come back and some point and say something really smart or we'll run out of other people who look like mafia.

Those 2 posts are also really awful tbh.

Palmar probably knows that marv wouldn't replace out as mafia this game.
I remember him saying the "once marv says a smart thing he is town" thing as mafia and it is completely untrue. Marv says smart things regardless of his alignment. Palmar also doesn't need to poe to correctly read marv. It's all a big load of bs.

Everything you said about marv is bs. Not every post like that can be a joke.

Why should anyone read you town?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 07 2016 11:19 GMT
#972
On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:
Which post is actually scummy jat?

Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much.

Also, someone somewhere said I was townreading marv on day 1. That's not really true, I just prefer to not call him mafia until I have a reason to to make my life easier.

Killing still sounds overly hostile and annoyed. he's probably mafia.

specific examples and why it makes him mafia please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 07 2016 11:20 GMT
#973
i still don't think jat is mafia, kush.

it's not one of my super-i'm-sure-jat-is-townreads which is always right, but it's definitely stronger than my maybe-he's-town reads which usually means he's mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 07 2016 11:21 GMT
#974
On May 07 2016 09:57 Fazers wrote:
I'm not seeing how Palmar can be scum...


why shouldn't he be scum?

why am i going to have to mislynch you because you're not playing? (again?)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 07 2016 11:25 GMT
#975
er, the (again) is because i have some sort of memory that he either got mislynched or shot for not doing much in some recent previous game, not because i did it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 07 2016 11:26 GMT
#976
i'm not going to be around much today and the last few hours before deadline not at all.

but based on his posting we really have to kill Palmar right now. it's full of nothing.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 07 2016 11:43 GMT
#977
On May 07 2016 20:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 18:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 08:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Jat want to explain your transition from
No plynches
To
We have to take out the trash?

Is it merely the revelation that there's no vig?

No vig is one part of it, yes. Also there is a difference between day1 and the rest of the game. I don't like to policy lynch on day1 - at least not on players who are usually very active later in the game and who have a rl excuse.
Day1 is over, Palmar had time to contribute. At some point we just have to lynch him if he doesn't. His posts since then were also really underwhelming so it isn't even a policy lynch, he is just scummy.

Isn't taking out the trash regarding inactives like Sandroba, ettelex?
And btw do you still want to lynch Sandrobas spot?
Show nested quote +

On May 07 2016 12:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"

And why? Because I wouldn't call Palmar or sandroba lynchbait.

Palmar is right that without a vig we need to take out the trash ourselves. There is no way around it regardless of your feelings.


@JAT, So you're following Palmar's advice despite thinking hes scum and voting him?

Yes. So what?

If Scum wants to take out the trash, trash is probably not scum. It makes no sense that you are adapting one of your scumreads strategies without being suspicious of his motives.

Erm, I am currently taking out trash palmar. Are you telling me Palmar is not mafia? Nothing you say makes any fucking sense.

Etellex and sandro are also still in this category, yes. Sandros posts weren't mindblowing and he just afked again before even catching up.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 07 2016 11:48 GMT
#978
On May 07 2016 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 20:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Palmar, you said you looked at jar and Marv and they didn't look off.
Then you said n1 that Marv was confirmed town for not replacing. That was sort of joking but sort of not.

So Marv as town looked like your strongest read.

Anyway...
Palmar Jat Alakaslam is starting to look pretty likely to me.

Feel free to explain how this makes any sense at all at any point in time.

This was in response to Palmar saying he wasn't really townreading Marv.
RiceyKins
Profile Joined April 2016
Canada106 Posts
May 07 2016 11:51 GMT
#979
##Vote: Etellex

you seem to have a good read on Palmar marv and I'm on board with his lynch based on your read but I still would be fine with lynching Etellex today as well. His recent posts have made sense to me though as in I understand where he's coming from in terms of trouble posting and style differences from Town of Salem to this... however I don't see that as alignment indicative but his actions are still really leading me to think he's mafia.

Honestly right now it's because he said Killing attacked me for no logical reason when even I admitted earlier in this game

On May 04 2016 10:58 RiceyKins wrote:
I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange.


So I can understand somebody coming after me quite well.

Most of my hesitation on Etellex d1 was because we weren't able to see his thought process and how he came to his conclusions but now that we have I'm still not convinced that he's looking for mafia, it seems like he's actively just trying to survive instead of helping town.

Do you still read Kush as scum Etellex? Who else other than Killing stands out to you?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 07 2016 11:54 GMT
#980
On May 07 2016 20:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2016 20:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 18:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 08:54 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Jat want to explain your transition from
No plynches
To
We have to take out the trash?

Is it merely the revelation that there's no vig?

No vig is one part of it, yes. Also there is a difference between day1 and the rest of the game. I don't like to policy lynch on day1 - at least not on players who are usually very active later in the game and who have a rl excuse.
Day1 is over, Palmar had time to contribute. At some point we just have to lynch him if he doesn't. His posts since then were also really underwhelming so it isn't even a policy lynch, he is just scummy.

Isn't taking out the trash regarding inactives like Sandroba, ettelex?
And btw do you still want to lynch Sandrobas spot?

On May 07 2016 12:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 07 2016 02:51 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
jat i didn't say those shouldn't be your scumreads. it was more like "do our scumreads worry you? cause they worry me"

And why? Because I wouldn't call Palmar or sandroba lynchbait.

Palmar is right that without a vig we need to take out the trash ourselves. There is no way around it regardless of your feelings.


@JAT, So you're following Palmar's advice despite thinking hes scum and voting him?

Yes. So what?

If Scum wants to take out the trash, trash is probably not scum. It makes no sense that you are adapting one of your scumreads strategies without being suspicious of his motives.

Erm, I am currently taking out trash palmar. Are you telling me Palmar is not mafia? Nothing you say makes any fucking sense.

Etellex and sandro are also still in this category, yes. Sandros posts weren't mindblowing and he just afked again before even catching up.


If Scum is advocating for taking out the trash, that should lead you to believe the trash, aka drp and etellex, aren't scum.

You said
Lets take out the trash like palmar said.
While thinking palmar was scum.
So you are following the agenda of someone you think is scum.

Ja stop pretending I'm not making sense.
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