##Vote: Etellex

you seem to have a good read on Palmar marv and I'm on board with his lynch based on your read but I still would be fine with lynching Etellex today as well. His recent posts have made sense to me though as in I understand where he's coming from in terms of trouble posting and style differences from Town of Salem to this... however I don't see that as alignment indicative but his actions are still really leading me to think he's mafia.

Honestly right now it's because he said Killing attacked me for no logical reason when even I admitted earlier in this game

On May 04 2016 10:58 RiceyKins wrote:
I also think going after Shape at this point is just plain bad. At first I thought Shape was a little too friendly with Kush and trying to parrot his opinions but after re-reading his filter that isn't really the case and I think he's made the best points out of any of us so far. So I dunno why out of everybody here he would put the two of us on a list together when honestly speaking we're on opposite ends in terms of contributions for town. That's somewhat strange.

So I can understand somebody coming after me quite well.

Most of my hesitation on Etellex d1 was because we weren't able to see his thought process and how he came to his conclusions but now that we have I'm still not convinced that he's looking for mafia, it seems like he's actively just trying to survive instead of helping town.

Do you still read Kush as scum Etellex? Who else other than Killing stands out to you?

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 15:19 GMT

#999

hey look it's taken 5 days but Palmar admitted I exist.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 18:33 GMT

#1012

On May 08 2016 03:09 Etellex wrote:

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Right now nothing I say holds water because of all the suspicion on me, so first I want to establish that I am in fact not scum before doing anything crazy. As for Kush, I do now think he's town.

What is an interesting possibility is that Palmer actually is scum and when he is revealed it will appear obvious that I am, despite being town. I don't know why someone would go through all that trouble to kill someone who's going to get lynched anyways so I don't think this is 100% the case but in case he does turn out to be mafia I want to have this on record.

I'm actually fairly happy you've come to this conclusion. I think how I feel about you might change depending on how Palmar flips because of what he's been saying as well.

##Unvote
##Votealmar

I'm going to sheep Marv for todays lynch. I don't think a lynch on Etellex will yield much information even if he did flip mafia whereas I think Palmar's would. Plus the last couple of exchanges with Etellex + a Palmar mafia flip would actually lend me to believe Etellex when he says he's town. but that's getting a bit ahead of myself.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 18:33 GMT

#1013

oops.
##Vote: Palmar

lol

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 18:54 GMT

#1016

because Etellex has had much less discussed about him and honestly it's very easy for both sides to defend him / want him lynched and he hasn't said much about anyone specifically. How does a Palmar lynch not give you more information JAT? You people know how he plays and have way more insight into him than you do Etellex.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 18:58 GMT

#1017

essentially I think scum palmar lets me be more sure of my reads than Etellex. That's how I'm making my decision between them.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 19:23 GMT

#1020

Palmar seems to buddy up to people strangely based on what stage the game is in. He did it to Etellex as everybody was still kind of thinking about him as a primary lynch after D1, he's gone after killing without saying much more than he sounds hostile but also admits he hasn't read the thread then says Sandroba needs to be lynched for doing the exact same thing he's been doing.

It's also somewhat semantics but he says he THINKS marv is town which we all know is almost guaranteed at this point. I have no issues saying Marv is town at this point. scum worries about wording to not let slip that they have information we don't. Even after the fact it could be that he's still in that mindset and wont commit to knowing marv is town. Unless for some reason the vet decided not to claim and is letting Marv organize a lynch but I find that highly unlikely. You've called him confirmed town yourself but Palmar chooses to keep him at the same level as you JAT, he thinks you're both town.

also in the same post he says Sandroba would be the best lynch, votes for killing, and then says he has no information and has no opinion on me, sandroba(?), and Slam. Which again is odd. No opinion on somebody you strongly want to lynch.

There's other small stuff as well but yeah

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 19:35 GMT

#1022

there's nothing about Etellex that would convince me that somebody else is or isn't scum while based on what I just said alone I'd feel better about my read on you because he puts you with Marv.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 19:40 GMT

#1025

null, slightly townish and what do you mean why? I just told you.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 19:49 GMT

#1031

On May 08 2016 04:44 justanothertownie wrote:

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Why does Palmars read on me influence yours? Do you think he wouldn't townread a fellow scummer like that or what?

I'd say it's less likely when he's being careful not to give away that he knows Marv's.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 20:30 GMT

#1052

I'm here shape

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 20:38 GMT

#1055

yeah from what I gathered from it that's what he meant Shape.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 20:50 GMT

#1066

On May 08 2016 05:43 Shapelog wrote:

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He meant that Ricey (you) is more towny, therefore not sus. And only 1 person on the etell wagon is really sus towards him?

hm? I thought Etellex just meant that because Palmar has been buddying him somewhat that if Palmar flipped scum it would seem like it would implicate him further and he didn't understand why he would bother doing it considering an Etellex lynch was possible anyway. I could be wrong but I think that's what he was saying.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 21:08 GMT

#1090

three cheers for Marv <3

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 07 2016 21:23 GMT

#1096

yeah I agree Mig. Is it worth looking into the fact that Palmar said Sandroba would be a good lynch, then claimed he had no opinion on him, before voting for him anyway?

On May 06 2016 18:35 Palmar wrote:
Like to be completely fair, my plan through most of day 1 was to sheep jat.

he's being mean now though so pls.

this is the type of stuff I was talking about earlier as well JAT. If he knew your alignment it's pretty safe to try to buddy and sheep a town.

On May 07 2016 19:55 Palmar wrote:

Btw, Etellex is now my new friend. I don't trust slam as much.

and this is why I dunno about Etellex anymore. Still not cleared I'm just not sure what to think =/

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 08 2016 11:11 GMT

#1112

makes sense to me.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 08 2016 21:50 GMT

#1138

##vote: Sandroba

yeah I'm alright with this plan.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 09 2016 21:56 GMT

#1146

looking that way Mig.

RiceyKins

Canada106 Posts

May 10 2016 21:22 GMT

#1197

On May 11 2016 02:32 justanothertownie wrote:

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I don't think we should use arguments like the "he would concede" one in this situation. I mean, I agree - it would save us all time if that is the team but he is a complete newbie. He might want to fight it out - he might just want to use this opportunity to learn what to do/what not to do the next time he rolls mafia.

But yeah, I am not sold on him either. Seeing how today is going sandro is almost certainly mafia but to me it isn't obvious who number 3 is. It could be anyone out of Etellex/Ricey/Fazers/Slam/Shape as far as I am concerned. Killing has really fallen off a cliff too...

to be fair it would be really strange for me (if I were mafia) to push for a DrP lynch over Palmar considering they were both mafia and I had other people I could have picked. like.. seriously weird xD