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On April 28 2016 06:31 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 06:15 GlowingBear wrote:On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote: Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
...
So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline. Rofl You've called ME town the whole game and now that I called you Mafia you dropped your case on fidei and is gladly voting me It is TT, guys. this is what he said yesterday about me XD I hate to explain reasons why I am townie as they invalidate those reasons in the first place by showing im aware of them. But me and gb do not stand on equal ground for our argument. I extended myself to make sure a specific townie was lynched risking towns ire in the process, earlier hts claimed i was burning through all my posts to try and bury a townie, the issue is if I am scum, I dont need to do that, I just need someone else to die. Essentially I exposed myself and made mistakes for a cause I did not need to pursue. Gb on the other hand just defended himself, and called me scum for attacking him. These two stances are entirely different, mine is blatantly suboptimal for scum therefore townie,gb's is neutral,but also by burning all his posts defending himself/attacking me he doesnt have to really explain why hes not going after anyone else as he just wont have the posts to do so, burning out is advantageous for him as so long as we argue, he looks like hes playing the game. also guys gb would never drop his read on me so easily for tt / : i havent even swore on my life yet(what it took last time for him to reconsider me) Sub optimal plays do not equal town......
Case in point, Kuru claiming mafia after i cased his ass in Storm. Case in point again, me fucking being 3rd to lynched our doc (ok maybe i forgot he was our doc but still), 3rd, going into lylo with 2 blue roles, one of which are mod confirmed.
Also, more onto what this post wanted to talk about, the GB vote was kinda hasty, and really doesn't make sense with the fact Fidei claimed blue....
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On April 28 2016 06:43 Koshi wrote: ##unvote ##Vote GB
Him or Shape. Bias
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Yeah, the sudden TT vote out of nowhere, plus all the things that point to him anyways.
##Vote:GB
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On April 28 2016 07:03 Fidei86 wrote: The N2 kill had to be either Tumble or LS. Scum probably flipped a coin in order to avoid WIFOMing too hard and avoiding medic/JK. Of course, I think I should fall into that category, but nobody in this game seems much interested in actually lynching scum. A course,
Cuz all I am doing is spamming
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On April 28 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 07:03 Fidei86 wrote: The N2 kill had to be either Tumble or LS. Scum probably flipped a coin in order to avoid WIFOMing too hard and avoiding medic/JK. Of course, I think I should fall into that category, but nobody in this game seems much interested in actually lynching scum. O rly. What a piece of shit are you. Fucking 0 impact player who wasted a blue role by claiming and was screaming to lynch town during EoD2. Yes, because the correct play for any blue role is to not claim after being the largest wagoning in the fucking game. But you seem to forgot the all claim post you made almost 10 secs after his claim.
Seriously.
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On April 28 2016 07:23 Fidei86 wrote: TW modkill incoming. Will actually be good for town as no more prots anyway and will take lylo to 2v1. If we don't find the scum first.
Missing a vote once will result in a warning that will carry over for five games. If you have already been warned from a previous game, you will be modkilled without another warning. Oh shit.......Storm......
Fuck, I mean yeah it is still ok (ish) yet we would still have confirm peeps alive (well, I am pretty sure you are blue, since no one CCed) if it wasn't for the MK for Day 3.
Annoying.
Oh well, I am pretty sure now it is GB, and we win here.
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God dammit. I kinda wanted this game to be over.
At least Tumble is still alive.
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Alright I am here, However, idk how much I'll be able to play tbh. Weather is changing bad (spring) and bad weather =/= internet access. So if it pours, I basically have no way to play.
At worse, we go into mylo (I think?) if I get lynched due to my afkiness. In that case, review everything and such (just don't fuck up and do what I did on my first lylo as town on OMGUS and vote the most towniest person, Kush, due to guts)
Now onto the game:
Helf = Them Sky^2 (E = MC^2) case on TT
(he cased GigyaS and I think ritoky? before he was eventually caught by the tracker! in mylo)
![[image loading]](http://vomzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/new-doctor-who-gifs-588.gif)
Now to move away from gloating,
The first thing that kinda pops into mind with her case, is the missing of his 2 recent games as scum (devil and Storm, the latter is kinda important) as the latest game that she listed that was played was from December, roughly at this point, 5 months old.
And while I am sure that it doesn't drastically change the view on his meta (as he only has played about 3 games? since he played nut.), there are some points that should be noted (IMO) form those games. The first major point (that at this point, if no one knows about, I am going to beat on the fucking head with a noodle) is the burnout. There were mentions of it in Devil, and majorly evident in storm.
TT's Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=Tictock Scum QT (Scroll to the bottom, half the posts are just me talking to myself): http://quicktopic.com/52/H/HDGBMg456EPjp If you read the aboves, you see how hard it was for him to really get going. Though, he was able to get some content going, going into day 2.
Ex.
On March 27 2016 20:00 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Tumblewood: (0): Koshi ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels Damdred (0): sicklucker sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi
Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood Day 1 ends in .
Finished reading up till EoD. This vote is really odd as a final count, both Rsoul and Tube voting Kuru and everyone piled on them... could be a TvT. I think one of Kuru or Rsoul is probably scum though. Reads at this point: VayneAuthority - Null - + Show Spoiler +Drops a half assed read on Rsoul #547, pretty much only thing he's firm about and leaves. Could be townie not giving a fuck or scum dropping a vote and outing. Kurumi - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#216 kinda an odd open, he really just rambles about a couple of different people in one post; Gum pointed out this interesting bit in #268; #305 alot more rambling and the conclusion that gum is for sure scum feels kinda over the top; #495 stopped reading after the "bollocks I was really wrong, I really was too harsh" reaction to gum flipping town; #870 kinda like this post, feels genuine... could prob come from scum though; #1008 actually like this response; #1071 really weak vote, opportunistic and rife with omgus;
WoT's feely rambling like they have no read drive/motivation behind them, reads seem kinda weak and opportunistic for how much he likes to write Stutters695 - Turns out was a blue... Damdred - mild scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#166 decent post, shows critical thought and is pushing for info; #300 decent reads, disagree about Vivax and LS though; #379 mimics Jat in making the "sensible statement here" also the snap defense of LS feels off even if he's townreading him; #1264 don't like this vote, #959 pile of garbage that boils down to "don't lynch me, I'm a good player!"; #1055 says he likes this post from Tube but in #1264 he plops his vote on Tube with no real explanation (actually never did find much about his Tube read rechecking his filter)
Weird vote on Tube, not explained and he had recently quoted a post he liked, a few townie posts but nothing I haven't seen Damdred do as scum before sandroba - town - + Show Spoiler +#966 felt same way about SL's gum vote; #967 weird he doesn't know gum got shot; all in all the thought dumb from #966 to 972 feels pretty towny;
Feels alot like sandroba from last game ObiWanShinobi - town lean - + Show Spoiler + #957 and #1000 seems like Obi is being fairly forward with his thoughts Koshi - town - + Show Spoiler +Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother... Rels - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#439-440 jumps in with stuff on his mind; #537 exactly my thought; #1280 I like this catch;
I read Rels by the way he pushes on people and things, as scum he tends to nitpick and will overpush little things, here he feels level headed and his pushes are more questioning than vindictive. I also doubt a scum!Rels would say I could be town for being afk. justanothertownie - town lean - + Show Spoiler +#348 feels like an odd open, the way he defends Rit while dismissing his plan suggests he has a strong town read on rit; #544 & # 557 are both solid posts from Jat, I like how he's applying critical thinking but not being quick to conclusions
Can't recall if I've actually played with JAT before so not sure what his scum range is, but he is probably town from the way he is processing things ritoky - slight scum lean - + Show Spoiler +The whole VT claim, fishing, w/e thing seems off to me. It's not so much that Rit played it so poorly, but that he put so much focus on it. I found one LS read from him early on I liked, #285, but otherwise his first page (actually a large part) of filter is all about his brilliant play. #816 also shows that Rit knew there was a chance his play might never even work (he knows that Scum QT's are often provided with fake claim info). #827 claims to give no fucks, but 832 keeps defending his plan and telling people it was good seems like he gives several fucks. It's like Rit knows his plan didn't work, played it bad, but is really concerned that people know it was done with pure intentions. I'm just not feeling like Rit's actions match what he claims he was doing here.
#798 is a pretty weak read on Super imo, I wouldn't put that past a scum!super at all.
Posts like #404 is more what I'd expect from town!Rit, simple to the point reads. sicklucker - Town lean - + Show Spoiler +#162 feels like a bit of a hop on vote;
So not much really stood out to me from SL, but he's not giving a shit how he comes off to people and I can see the reasoning behind his pushes pretty clearly. Hard to explain but he feels town Alakaslam - Scum - + Show Spoiler +I really disliked Slams reactions after his shot went off, he pushes blame off on others, some of his explanation on the shot seems convoluted, and he basically fucked off after defending himself. I'm not seeing anything he's done to contribute to this game.
#137 right off the bat this feels odd, it's quite clear what koshi is doing with that (reffering to his list postings); #363 says he would have shot Rsoul; #409 now suggests he's rethinking and must sleep on it?; #655 says everyone being butthurt makes him not want to cooperate, but everything he's done has been acting on his own thus far... Slam hasn't even given reads; #678 says he considered shooting Kuru or Gum, went with gum kus of bad meta useage (as in gum was sorta scum reading slam); #844 says he was agreeing with Kuru and shot Gum, then suggests he's mad he's getting the blame; #1140 the timeline in this is wrong, Slam says he thought about retracting the shot before bed, woke up thinking about it, then remembered his original reason for scum reading gum... how did he forget why he wanted to shoot gum in all the "thinking" time he had?
It's really weird how Slam says he was both considering shooting Kuru but agreeing with him on gum at the same time. He also never mentions his thought about shooting Rsoul after the shot goes off, there is too much not making sense to me here, besides the fact that slam shot a fairly active person so early with so little thought given Tumblewood - Null/slight town lean - + Show Spoiler +#278 tumble's open, it adds nothing and look terrible... probably town; #286 another post that does little to impact the game, fits with town meta
#329 feels like Tumble is setting up blame for a town flip from gum rather than looking for voting modivations; #670 really doesn't make sense, especially why he is SURE slam is town here
I'd prob put Tumble down as town for meta, but that's not a great town read Shapelog - Null - + Show Spoiler +#181 post mirrors my thinking; #187 reads seem weird, not sure why he's TRing slam; #283 I dont get this post, it's a wierd response to LS; #623 feels really wishywashy to me, like he's really avoiding coming to conclusions; #711 this focus on VA seems odd when there are multiple people, like myself, who are not really playing, shape himself has pointed us out #716 maybe just a little too eager to please & respond?
Shape's overall tone and attitude gives me a town feel, but his reads feel a little off to me and he's being kinda wishywashy while focusing on weird things.
Vivax - Town - + Show Spoiler +I like this style of play from vivax, it screams town to me.
#262 I like this "fuck off let me do my thing" attitude coupled with promising to behave, plus I like his points; #324 huge stream of thought type post, unlikely from mafia; #634 yea, never lynch vivax rsoultin - Scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#327 open post that tries to talk about a ton, but says nothing; #331 is a bad post, it says nothing while implying people are scum, it's also a surface reaction which shows no effort in reading tumble; #1017 this tunnel on Rit feels a little forced, even though I agree he's sus; #1019 these "I'm not the lynch" style posts feel so blah to me, #1117 weird vote given how focused she's been on Rit, also unsure where this read on Kuru comes from
kinda like #353 and #358 is the sorta attitude you get from a town not giving a fuck
While I have a similar suspiscion of Rit, Rsoul doesn't seem to be willing to look at Rit possibly being town while asking others to do the same for herself. Combined with her sudden burst of activity when she was being voted on, and her odd vote while semi-giving up pushing Rit, I'm having a hard time seeing Rsoul as town. LightningStrike - scum lean - + Show Spoiler +#172-173 kinda odd how defensive of Slam he is being, especially give gum wasn't really pushing slam; #196 Promising to check things and taking a lot of middle of the road stances; #277 omgus feels out of place, #279 he is over-defensive over something simple; #534 feels a little opportunistic, #891 really good non-answer... ;
I know LS has something of a reputation of being lynchbait, but I'm not getting much from him that suggests he's trying to solve the game here. I only recall him posting some town and null reads, never got the sense that he has scum reads Superbia - Town - + Show Spoiler +#135 half joking/half down to buisness; #174 not sure where this TR on slam comes from; #192 good points, also adds to my own thoughts about #187; #242 strong post, gives me strong town feels; #501 - 505 love this train of thought breaking down the gum wagon
Attitutde & tone feels town, paranoid about people town reading him, probably has done the most to try to sovle the game
So I guess technically, even with the burnout, he could/did post content of such. Hmmm. Contradicts a bit of what i thought.
Devil was a tad different. He buddied me (well, I kinda reversed buddy, in which I got buddy because I pushed to be buddied with him over bombpops) If u want to skim it, here: Filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia?user=Tictock
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On April 28 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2016 05:34 Tictock wrote:On April 28 2016 04:05 Fidei86 wrote:On April 22 2016 07:06 Tictock wrote:On April 22 2016 07:03 sicklucker wrote: oh votings today I thought it was tormorow? why am I being lynched I gotta ask I think at this point the onus is on you to tell us why we shouldn't lynch you. As in, you really haven't done much at all this game. Ticktock, if you are here, I really think you have to explain this post and your vote D1. At this point, we were 24 minutes before lynch. At that stage, voting was highly contested between FF and SL. Three minutes later, Damdred switched his vote taking it to three on SL and three on FF. SL hammered at 23:16. You were in the thread. You saw a highly contested lynch, and nobody else was going to move to TW. Yet you didn't move. Felt like it was stupid for SL to go "why are you lynching me?" rather than doing something, so I was telling him he should probably do something. Not that I expect you to believe me, but I was thinking about swapping to SL but when everyone started to shift to FF (who I didn't want to lynch) I decided to just stay put on Tumble. I think this was the post I made when that was my thinking. On April 22 2016 07:14 Tictock wrote:Is it bad that I'm tempted to just leave my vote on Tumble in case he's scum and I'm on track to having a perfect voting record this game? + Show Spoiler +That is pretty bad huh? + Show Spoiler +Honestly I'm just not sure who I'd preffer to lynch... + Show Spoiler +SL's sudden return could him just trying to shake off the lynch if he's scum here though... but for some reason I'm inclined to believe him Which you are free to WIFOM as me having TMI calling out exactly what SL was doing, and to further that WIFOM I give you this post I made N1 On April 22 2016 23:54 Tictock wrote:On April 22 2016 07:35 sicklucker wrote: ballz wont be able to catch up till later tonight. go raptors! Fairly dissapointed there was no follow through on this. Means SL basically just showed up as a wagon formed up on him, complained he didn't have time kus of another game, then fucked off as soon as the lynch was over. I was going to call-out GB for saying Damdred was a hypocrit but he seems to have realized that was quite an exxageration. Haven't really had a chance to relook at EoD yet, and there is a chance I wont be able to till after daypost. I bet there was at least one scum on FF, at most there was two, but more than likely scum were all spread out in the voting.
On April 28 2016 04:09 Fidei86 wrote:On April 22 2016 06:38 Tictock wrote:On April 22 2016 06:16 Damdred wrote: Idk I kinda just want to lynch sl
He thinks koshi is town and voted him anyway total throw away vote.
Hasn't really done anything.
His ls read is strange to a point so are a few others.
But I'm having a hard time finding someone I want to lynch in the actives I feel like I'm having more of an issue finding people I solidly think are town this game. Koshi feels like town Koshi, but he's kinda attacked half the game and his LS read was bull. HtS and Fidei are probably my strongest townreads based on tone, activity, and drive to solve the game. You (Damdred) strike me as town for starting off trying to generate discussion and trying to lead town now when votes are all over. Shape feels a little better to me having reread the game. I thought the way he approached a few of his reads felt towny, though tbf I think I'm largely going on something I noticed about his read on me so I take it with a grain of salt. GB and FF are floating in a "I think they are town... maybe" space for me. Which leaves me: 2. sicklucker 7. DoYouHas 8. Tumblewood 11. LightningStrike 12. gumshoe With regards to my post above, I also refer to the above post, where TT basically town reads FF and scum reads SL. But he does not vote to save his town read over one of his scum reads. And he posted on at least two occasions (before and after) how bad the lynch was. This is very suspicious to me. I shall continue reading your filter. I think my response to your other post covers this one too. Though saying I had a real town read on FF is overstating things, he was off my list of D1 lynches for sure though. Actually thanks for quoting this one, means I had decent reads D1 with the 2 flipped scum in my lynch pool. + Show Spoiler +For more WIFOM I am known to bus as scum. Too bad I was wrong on Tumble and LS, and more than likely was wrong on Gum as well. I..Do not understand...The point of this post. Defense by WIFOM? Yeah, I still do not really like that post.
On April 25 2016 20:10 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 07:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Final Votecount - Day 2: DoYouHas (5) - LightningStrike, Fidei86, Koshi, Shapelog, TicTock GlowingBear (2) - Koshi, gumshoe, Half the Sky gumshoe (1) - Tictock, gumshoe, Tumblewood, GlowingBear, Half The Sky, Koshi, KoshiKoshi (2) - GlowingBear, DoYouHas, GlowingBear Shapelog (0) - KoshiTumblewood (0) - Half the Sky, Koshi, Tictock, gumshoeDoYouHas is slated to be lynched. It's interesting that DYH and GB were voting together here. If they are both scum this is a pretty weak attempt to stay alive by voting together on a wagon that is probably never going to happen. Idk it's super weak, especially since the lynch was between GB and DYH, but I wouldn't expect scum to be voting together like this. I'd expect a scum!GB to make the swap to DYH to at least pickup whatever towncred he could, but honestly that's pretty WIFOM.
Still, this plus the stuff between GB and SL is enough to make me prefer a Fidei lynch tomorrow over GB. But WIFOM doesn't matter when he makes a defense, where he literally admits has almost all WIFOM elements lol.
Could come from town tho. I just did it in a unmarked game as it so eh.
If I had to describe nut: I am bias a course, because of track. But I got majorly buddy that game. I was also the one who argued that people should be reading into meta, because it could be easily faked from him (which it was.) He mimicked his meta so well (at least according to how other people reacted) that got him universally town read. He made a bunch of big posts, and was a town figure head.
And Finally, I drawn a Tarot card for him (this part is pure lolz)
It was Queen of Pentacles - reversed Description The face suggests that of a dark woman, whose qualities might be summed up in the idea of greatness of soul; she has also the serious cast of intelligence; she contemplates her symbol and may see worlds therein. Divinatory Meanings Opulence, generosity, magnificence, security, liberty. Divinatory Meanings - Reversed Evil, suspicion, suspense, fear, mistrust. Additional Divinatory Meanings Dark woman; presents from a rich relative; rich and happy marriage for a young man. Additional Meanings - Reversed An illness.
Idk, I just used a website
Anyways, I'm going to reread TT's filter again this game and HTS for good measure. I have a tinfoil Idea on Koshi that I would like to look at as well. However, if he is scum this game, he has mimic his town playstyle greatly. So he is still prob. town.
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On April 29 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote:Good I can put that tinfoil to rest. I haven't really read HtS's case on me yet, but she made good choices picking out my strongest scum games. Pretty sure I post just to post as either alignment though... I mean if that's what you wanna call it when I make posts like this one. (if this weren't a post restricted game I might well just stop and post now, but...) Without reading filters Shape seems like the obv choice from my PoV, but I should do you all justice and actually read HtS's filter (Hell just the fact that she's been making nonstop WoT type posts might be something to note, kus god does it make me not wanna read her filter) and recheck Gum. I could tinfoil Koshi, but honestly he might deserve the win if he is mafia here. The buddying has been spot on if mafia.All for now, I'll do things when I feel like it.
![[image loading]](http://media4.popsugar-assets.com/files/2013/03/12/5/192/1922507/7807d5e19cb96253_original_1_.xxxlarge/i/Wibbly-Wobbly-Dance.gif)
*sigh*
Tired of being ninjaed
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Also:
![[image loading]](http://gamerize.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/tumblr_nmv697klOV1qiiigmo1_500.jpg) It's snoozey and for once, it is not me.
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On April 29 2016 23:31 Tictock wrote: Shape this is important...
What was the image of the Card you "drew" for me?
In regards to HtS's case on me it's interesting that she is useing so much meta in that case... but without checking my town games as well. Especially when there are plenty of points this game that leave me looking fairly questionable (TRing SL D1, being one of the last to move to DYH when it didn't matter, ergo the stuff Fidei pointed out).
I probably wont be bothered to look at filters till a fair bit later on today, but my initial feeling reading that case is that I'm being painted as scum not evaluated as more likely scum than town.
![[image loading]](http://www.tarotlore.com/tarot-images/rider-waite-smith/large/queen-of-pentacles.jpg) Reversed.
Also, when was the last time town game (VT)? all you have ever role since I think I been a player has been blue o red....... Interesting enough.
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I can't really do much (as I only have 2 mins due to weather) other then type this to avoid a Modkill that I think causes us to lose (would be 1v1 right?)
Will do more once this last storm passes, my luck, that all week they been calling for rain, yet it only happens when i have no other internet access >_<
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Urg, I Hate NC in spring time + Show Spoiler +https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/Wilmington+NC+USNC0760:1:US
let me drink my coffee and get done with this assignment, and in a while i start posting. I've caught up, yet want to read filters before hand. I forgot Gumshoe was alive (I thought he died, JATS game) this game.
I shall redeem myself from that Lylo in OMGUS. I owe it to Kush to actually play well. + Show Spoiler +
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ROLLING THUNDER! EGADS AND FLASHES OF NOISE! LANDS UPON MY BROKEN HOME, STRIKING OUT MY INTERNET ACCESSES, ONCE AGAIN! THE WEATHERMAN, NORMALLY WRONG, WAS FUCKING RIGHT FOR ONCE, FOR BETTER OR WORSE! + Show Spoiler [to prove I am not kidding] +https://weather.com/weather/5day/l/Wilmington+NC+USNC0760:1:US
And it is storming right now so idk if I even will be around towards later today near deadline :/.
Anyways, Time to go gosu bonjaw mode. Where to start.
random Name selector has picked KOSHI for the start off. Which, would be where I would of started, therefore, I must be kin with this selector.
Off the top of my head, Koshi is basically town. I do still have tinfoil (Primarily to do with blue hunting, and some other things) yet, in order for him to be scum, he had to have mimic his town meta to a point of where people believe it. And he has. And according to what I know from mouths (storm/Starwars) that is hard for him to do.
He also claims to know me meta wise, which is true to a degree. Koshi has played with me as town and scum, yet the last true town game we played in (not counting the hydra newbie because Kush was who did a lot for meh due to cell) was nut. And if we do include the Hydra game, there are a lot of parallels from that game to here (as D1 to D2(ish) I didn't have a lot of time)
So long winded short, Koshi does know the mafia side of me, yet, Not heavily on my town side (tho, do/should know some what)
On May 03 2016 20:25 Koshi wrote:Shape who was 0 effort this game said this about a mafia: Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote:DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read. SaltShaker Kinda debating putting him in the scum lean cat. (I did) I would expect him to do more after saying most people are going to wait to post (his 3rd post.) Also this post really doesn't give much if you look at it: Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard Ticktock is looking really strong I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game Gum probably town from what I know about him FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked. Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts A lot of his town reads aren't really explained (TT) and just feels rushed in a way. He is kinda avoids a read on 3 people (talks about FF, but doesn't actually really gives a read, more so on the threads interaction on FF) (HTS statement was pretty none positional) (and I have really no clue what he means on mine lol) He also doesn't seem to go after anyone other than GB. And focuses on GB on his next post. Which is pretty impressive. After he gave that list post he did nothing to push either sl or figure out DYH their alignment though. But turned it miraculously around and he voted mafia sl on D1. Impressive once more. But looking at his post he kinda was looking to get off him. Why? Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: ##Vote: Sicklucker
My reasoning in my list + Still not being here
Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is. Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote:Hmmm. I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote.On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote:On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote: LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum. And this is different than every other game how? Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow. It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately. You're right, it's been a while I guess. I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy  On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today. On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote: Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
##vote sicklucker
frig off damdred On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote: I would vote HTS Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.) ↑ please watch how FF was voting fecalfeast. The same person Shape thought was mafia. But for some reason right after voting sl, Shape goes attack the person who wants to vote sl with him. Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 07:16 Shapelog wrote: Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline. Yay....
Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e ↑ Tinfoil (mafia talking to each other) BUT There is also no actual attempt from Shape to read sl. Just this. Strange when Shape was scumreading sl?
And D2 he again ended on mafia!! Impressive once more.
And D3 he did nothing because there was 0 pressure. Pushed the GB a bit but didn't put his hearth really into it. Also pushed another town lynch in TT already. Just doing what is needed. Blending in and making the right cases on the right people.
For D4 he didn't even vote. Which is not normal for Shape. I do believe he has really problems connecting to the internet but I also think that as town he would find a way to show his commitment to solving the game and wouldn't get catched by internet failure. Probably voted his scumread when he entered the thread. etc etc. The guy is just playing reactionary D3 and D4 and is getting rewarded for it by dumbass shit townreads that people give him. I never understood why people townread him. Both HTS and gumshoe and this TW. And GB. Only TT was skeptical and said he was probably town because the mafia spewed him town. Which was exactly my read on Shape but some dumbasses lynched TT and some other dumbasses didn't vote. But w.e that happened.
D5 more nothing. Just get him lynched. Last 3 cycles it is mafia riding to victory because town is fucking retarded to the maximum.
Gumshoe. Read this fucking case carefully. And tell me why the fuck you want to lynch somebody who wrote 5 billion words over Shape. Who has no real reason to be town except GAME FUCKING RELATED EVENTS. While HTS was pushed by SL While HTS made a shitton of questionable post. (which at that amount could come from town trying to solve over mafia trying to hide) While HTS is really trying to solve the game. day after day.
First off, about the FF wanting SL dead thing. ironically enough, In devil I voted with my top scum read, Saltshaker (who was town), onto Palmar (who was also town.) But anyways, FF wanted SL to die, then, for some odd reason, changed his vote to HTS after saying he wanted to vote off SL. So yes, I was skeptic about that. And then proceed to vote FF off.
Your Tinfoil pleases me. As all Tinfoil does.
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I don't normally push hard as town tho. It was actually why I made the JAS smurf until I failed that, and became Just Another Shapelog. And yes, my cases turned up being wrong after all, But that is mafia in a nutshell.
Is it normal for people not to vote lol? All jokes aside, I prob. should of place my vote (even if it was on me, since I think we could self vote this game). I was debating between TT and HTS (going back and forth, reading games etc) and then lost internet . Do agree with you tho, with the "he should done it." statement
i've played reaction based town before. second newbie i was in (one I replaced) people got onto me (IIRC) for it. Oh boy...The early days *stutters*
The weatherman is a bitch
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What do you think I am typing up right now Sky?
Also I just spent a few mins just signing in at my other game.
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I am working on a bigger post, but Gum's defense on me makes me feel:
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On May 03 2016 23:46 gumshoe wrote: like lets be real here, whoever the scummer is, they have had 3 days to do nothing but feign innocence and plan this moment. the tumble lynch is implies they are in a good position as they have the room to kill 100 percent trs as opposed to threats. Your not that person, as theres no way dyh pushed you like he did if your scum together.
does this really seem like a scenario I would manufacture koshi? Having to go after arguably the best player in the game while desperately defending the worst one in ways that alienate you, another strong player, and expose me?
Lets be real (I.E. I have gotten a Idea)
And I know that part of this is to Koshisus, but I can't read.
Gumovingian has to scum read HTS here for the most part as either alignment. As he has, before hand, call me and Koshi town. Therefore, the only person left for him, and in case is HTS.
Now he could back track theoretically, yet, as town, unless something changes his mind, he wouldn't, and as scum that would draw a bit of attention and sus on himself.
So the defense, I could vote Shape off, but I am not, so town is kinda null In that respect.
Furthermore,
There wasn't a whole lot Gumovingian could do in that regard (in terms of who he thought was scum here) as after the GB flip, the only other person would be TT.
On April 30 2016 04:00 gumshoe wrote: Hey, so checking in, have to gm for some friends today so I'll be working on that mostly ) : but i'll poke in every once in a while in case anyone has questions.
I still think shape is town / : sorry koshi, that day 1 vote is pretty rock solid in my mind.
tumble-lol
koshi- no fucking way koshi is scum here ever
so that leaves hts and tt.
TT is in my blind spot, as I have trouble reading people who have accused me, Gbs death yesterday is an example of that, hts seems too involved to be scum. If shes scum, that means she has a second hts in her head thats town who helps her keep her cover straight and make it look like shes solving a puzze.
we also know that dyh had a tendency to hard town read actual townies (gb and fedie) sl also hard town read hts, but again, she looked objectively townie(if only because of activity) so they may have just been trying to appease her.
I honestly have no fucking clue whose scum between the two, tt looks fine as well honestly, he was a little reluctant to lynch dyn but so was I honestly, I'm probs not gonna vote today as I dont want another gb repeat T_T
when next I post it'll be with a thorough evaluation of the two of them, maybe shape too if I have time but as I said, pretty sure the dudes not derp enough to hop onto a mislynch.
Never sadly happen, anyways.
So Gumovigrian has to read TT and HTS. Yet, before hand, he had HTS as someone he wanted to lynch, and wanted to lynch (but after GB) and load and behold. We are in Lylo, with Gum and HTS, and gum is now saying that scum has to plan for it, thus he would = town, yet he could of plan it if he was scum and did.
So, long way about, Yes gum, you could of plan this as scum.
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Fucking Gumvirogian
![[image loading]](http://www.knotfriends.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/l.jpeg) We literally cannot no lynch (97%) mech wise.
Otherwise, yes, No lynch into mafia shooting someone.
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On May 04 2016 00:38 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2016 00:26 Shapelog wrote:Fucking Gumvirogian ![[image loading]](http://www.knotfriends.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/l.jpeg) We literally cannot no lynch (97%) mech wise. Otherwise, yes, No lynch into mafia shooting someone. lol, we literally were just in this position, with me defending you and you scum reading me for asinine reasons. also the key thing your overlooking about my having to vote hts argument is this, I would have never put myself in the postion of having to scum read my top town read to win the game I would have had days to plan this, hard tring you like I have was an awful move as scum and something I would never have done, especially because of the consistency with which others have scum read you thereby giving me the chance to renounce my views. DO YOU HEAR ME SHAPE, ITS A POSITION I PUT MYSELF INTO, WHY DO THAT AS SCUMalso you know what, ill give you guys one last chance I swear on my life and my mother and fathers lives that I am town.
there, I may be a dick for doing that, but im not a piece of shit. if you 2 lynch me you do so knowing full well that your fucking idiots. ##unvote
##vote hts ...I didn't vote you.......all I said was you could of plan it...wowie.
Yet you did tho, you litterly went at the GB lynch (D3) posted that you wanted to lynch your top town read the next day if GB wasn't scum.
If I had to guess, you did it as scum because everyone else allowed you to do so (renounceing your view) from the scum reads on HTS. Which is your defense for me.
And you did have days to plan it (since D2 lynch) basically if you were scum. Maybe RL issue yes, but you still have had time.
Also, as someone who lost his dad early on (11) Don't bring family members into the game like that if you can help it. It bothers me, and kinda is a tad bit disrespectful IMO.
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So you flip the fuck out, because I have said something that underminded your defense, while not calling you scum over HTS and voting you off? I mean i latterly just made a point that you could, yet you OMGUS mode me.
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And yes I was wrong in Devil, for fucksake. And I admit that. And maybe I am jackshit at reading you. But, that is just ridiculous. I am in a postilion where I know that either you or Sky is scum, so yes, I am going to be questionable and nick-picky.
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