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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 20:20 GMT
#598
I here I really don't know who I want to lynch atm. I don't really want to lynch Gumshoe atm honestly his behavior looked townier with the way he wants to get lynched but he claimed he done that behavior before as scum? I should check I guess.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 20:29 GMT
#604
On April 25 2016 05:24 DoYouHas wrote:
@LS, I would very much like to hear your opinions on Koshi, GB, and HtS.

On April 24 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:31 Half the Sky wrote:
11/40

EBWOP from #519,

That should have read to DYH

"I see we're on the same page with Koshi, prob not Fidei"

the filter re-reads are on my to-do list....

And LS, I'm going through your filter, you haven't really produced too much in the way of new reads or scumteam proposals.

Mind commenting on

(1) GlowingBear
(2) Koshi
(3) DYH
(4) Fidei
(5) gumshoe

With respect to voting patterns and/or generally reading them
I'm aware the associative shit might be hard so stick to the first two unless you want to crack it...

Now I really gotta roll. Really wish I wasn't so damned pressed for time these days.

I think James is town and Koshi too. James is starting to do his own work and Koshi been doing his own things and been kinda active?
DYH is null for me he haven't done to much and I being cautious with him because he buddied me so hard in Student Newbie XX at LYLO. Gumshoe's voting reasons for SL seemed weak and he didn't try to push his own case on TT who he thought was scumier but he claimed it was because his computer was acting up. I would think he would try to make a case or at least push his lynch more but he claimed TT did more stuff than him and looked better than him so :\
GB: Maybe Town? He been doing his own thing and tried to pressure people too but I can see a little bit why people having trouble with him but I don't think we should lynch him today.

The bolded part on GB.
On April 24 2016 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 07:23 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 24 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
I believe that Koshi is town am I wrong on that read and if so why GB?


14
I've made a whole post pointing out inconsistencies in his play and why I think he is Mafia for that. Read that one and if you still think he is town, debunk my case.

By the way, why do you think he is town again?

Koshi been doing his own thing pressuring people and been kind of active. Plus he martyr although kind of anti-town makes it more likely that he is town. In addition Koshi been lynching townies his last few games so it makes sense that he not hardcore pushing people.

On Koshi
On April 23 2016 08:28 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly might have to reconsider my read on HTS and call (gasp) town mainly because sicklucker voted her with me for really bad reasons I think so it's likely that she's is town and so is Koshi due to sicklucker voting both of them. Idk TW might look worse on that flip and he could of easily bussed sl but idk man.

On HTS. Nothing changed on them.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:33 GMT
#632
Hmm interesting point you made gum but meh kinda want to lynch into him and DYH but I think it's DYH out of the 2 of them. But idk how many people are willing to lynch him over GB.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:39 GMT
#637
On April 25 2016 06:35 Fidei86 wrote:
Why do you think it's DYH? He can't be accused of flooding the thread, but the thing I was really concerned about (his flip on Shape) actually makes a bunch of sense considering Shape's voting.

DYH has been pretty cautious the entire game and playing kinda similar to Newbie Student XX where he was scum.Here his filter from that game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505275-newbie-student-mafia-xx?user=DoYouHas
Here's his filter from this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=DoYouHas
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:40 GMT
#638
On April 25 2016 06:38 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Hmm interesting point you made gum but meh kinda want to lynch into him and DYH but I think it's DYH out of the 2 of them. But idk how many people are willing to lynch him over GB.


I mean, he just lied mang / : or at least he accidentally fudged the truth in an extreme/highly coincidental manner that just so happens to exonerate him for his scummy actions.

We all talk eachothers ears off about scum slips, and whats correct or wrong or right or townie.

But you cannot reasonably ask for more than what just happened / :


I seen him do that before as town(I think he did in Student Newbie XX when he got lynched by Artanis(scum))
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:50 GMT
#652
On April 25 2016 06:41 GlowingBear wrote:
LS if you mislynch me one more time I will never play with you again.

Gumshoe, I think you might be Mafia and I felt uneasy about your alignment after considering how your lunch was unfolding. I don't understand why you think I'm lying.


I think I only mislynched you twice? Once in Nutcracker because I didn't feel like lynching you over Kush but couldn't get enough people on Kush(town).
Newbie Student XX I tried to get RB lynched with like 10 mins to go and no one didn't want to lynch him and I was right about him :\
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:57 GMT
#662
Hmm honestly idk about gb vs gumshoe they both were shitting up the thread the last page or so trying to lynch each other. Ugh so confused about who I think should be the scum >.<
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 21:59 GMT
#666
James I suggest aftwer reading DYh's filter from this game and compared it to his latest scum game which I linked to you.
I trying to see if anyone wants to lynch him but seems like I having trouble about seeing who would lynch him :\
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:03 GMT
#673
On April 25 2016 07:02 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 06:41 GlowingBear wrote:
LS if you mislynch me one more time I will never play with you again.

Gumshoe, I think you might be Mafia and I felt uneasy about your alignment after considering how your lunch was unfolding. I don't understand why you think I'm lying.



note Ls, this line comes right after you recalled the game you mislynched him / :

pretty sure he just saw a weakness and chose to exploit it, as opposed to genuinely coming up with this himself.

No that was before I mentioned the games I had mislynched him in.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:06 GMT
#680
Guys I think we should lynch DYH over GB and Gumshoe now. I know I didn't put a big fancy case about DYH but still red his filter this game and his filter from his latest scum that I linked. I pretty certain we should lynch DYH for now and we can have a cop or tracker if we got one of those to check gumshoe or GB.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:08 GMT
#684
Koshi I know you didn't like either DYH or GB but why GB over DYH?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:09 GMT
#685
On April 25 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think we should lynch DYH over GB and Gumshoe now. I know I didn't put a big fancy case about DYH but still red his filter this game and his filter from his latest scum that I linked. I pretty certain we should lynch DYH for now and we can have a cop or tracker if we got one of those to check gumshoe or GB.

Well I am ok with doing that. Do you have any reasons for GB being town?

He been doing his own thing pressuring people although I think his gumshoe read in OMGUS I had him do that as town in Student Newbie XX regarding scum Artanis's case on him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:10 GMT
#686
Plus he's screaming harder than I think I can remember him doing as scum unless he did in Games of Throne(will recheck his filter in a minute).
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:14 GMT
#692
On April 25 2016 07:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 07:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:07 Koshi wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I think we should lynch DYH over GB and Gumshoe now. I know I didn't put a big fancy case about DYH but still red his filter this game and his filter from his latest scum that I linked. I pretty certain we should lynch DYH for now and we can have a cop or tracker if we got one of those to check gumshoe or GB.

Well I am ok with doing that. Do you have any reasons for GB being town?

He been doing his own thing pressuring people although I think his gumshoe read in OMGUS I had him do that as town in Student Newbie XX regarding scum Artanis's case on him.

1 more thing. Do you think that everything gumshoe said about gb isn't good enough or what is your opinion on those posts?

I honestly did read them but GB is like a box of chocolates you don't know what you getting. Aslo side I just Games of Throne he did yell about being lynched in there so that point is NAI.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:21 GMT
#699
On April 25 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote:
Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard
Ticktock is looking really strong
I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game
Gum probably town from what I know about him
FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked.
Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor
wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one
I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

He clearly missed the many posts by me and my comrades that my post ment nothing.

sicklucker here pushed GB

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 09:31 sicklucker wrote:
Gb do you or do you not just always push me everytime you get a red pm in the inbox?

Did GB answer this? Is this talk between buddies?

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote:
On April 22 2016 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:
20/40

On April 21 2016 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
15/40

[...]

sicklucker, I went through your post and I have a few questions

(1) Why is Tictock strong?
(2) LS has faked his meta as mafia (which you allude to as cute) in Cell Mafia. Give me something more concrete as to why he's town
(3) Shapelog hasn't made concrete reads - that should tell you something. His filter isn't very long...
(4) Expand on GB's scum meta of pushing you - I've played with you both quite a bit and I'm completely unaware of it.


sicklucker, I had these questions of your list post.

And Fecalfeast, what prompted you to suggest voting me?




1 . Cant even remember I got 5 minutes. He had good long posts early when I read the game idk
2. He was quite active for him and doing his usual routine like hes town
3. vote him then? Dont read his posts at all see storm qt
4. gb pushes me everygame as scum. I think thats pretty plane as day. he pushes me quite alot as town tho but he has a 100% rate over a pretty big sample of games 20_ of always trying to lynch me but never succeeding. probably why I dont respect his scum game despite it having a good win percentage

more about GB



So is this between buddies or not? I don't know. Do you know?

sicklucker isn't exactly known for bussing his partners from what I remember of him. He only busses if the person asked them to bus which idk why he would do it so early.
On April 25 2016 07:17 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 25 2016 06:41 GlowingBear wrote:
LS if you mislynch me one more time I will never play with you again.

Gumshoe, I think you might be Mafia and I felt uneasy about your alignment after considering how your lunch was unfolding. I don't understand why you think I'm lying.



note Ls, this line comes right after you recalled the game you mislynched him / :

pretty sure he just saw a weakness and chose to exploit it, as opposed to genuinely coming up with this himself.

No that was before I mentioned the games I had mislynched him in.


post 638 page 32 XD

then he makes the post i mentioned on 639 a min later

wouldnt make that kind of thing up : P

Ugh he didn't after I replied to him?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:26 GMT
#710
On April 25 2016 07:24 Half the Sky wrote:
28/40

Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 07:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote:
On April 21 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote:
Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard
Ticktock is looking really strong
I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game
Gum probably town from what I know about him
FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked.
Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor
wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one
I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

He clearly missed the many posts by me and my comrades that my post ment nothing.

sicklucker here pushed GB

On April 21 2016 09:31 sicklucker wrote:
Gb do you or do you not just always push me everytime you get a red pm in the inbox?

Did GB answer this? Is this talk between buddies?

On April 22 2016 07:21 sicklucker wrote:
On April 22 2016 07:17 Half the Sky wrote:
20/40

On April 21 2016 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:
15/40

[...]

sicklucker, I went through your post and I have a few questions

(1) Why is Tictock strong?
(2) LS has faked his meta as mafia (which you allude to as cute) in Cell Mafia. Give me something more concrete as to why he's town
(3) Shapelog hasn't made concrete reads - that should tell you something. His filter isn't very long...
(4) Expand on GB's scum meta of pushing you - I've played with you both quite a bit and I'm completely unaware of it.


sicklucker, I had these questions of your list post.

And Fecalfeast, what prompted you to suggest voting me?




1 . Cant even remember I got 5 minutes. He had good long posts early when I read the game idk
2. He was quite active for him and doing his usual routine like hes town
3. vote him then? Dont read his posts at all see storm qt
4. gb pushes me everygame as scum. I think thats pretty plane as day. he pushes me quite alot as town tho but he has a 100% rate over a pretty big sample of games 20_ of always trying to lynch me but never succeeding. probably why I dont respect his scum game despite it having a good win percentage

more about GB



So is this between buddies or not? I don't know. Do you know?

sicklucker isn't exactly known for bussing his partners from what I remember of him. He only busses if the person asked them to bus which idk why he would do it so early.
On April 25 2016 07:17 gumshoe wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 25 2016 07:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 25 2016 06:41 GlowingBear wrote:
LS if you mislynch me one more time I will never play with you again.

Gumshoe, I think you might be Mafia and I felt uneasy about your alignment after considering how your lunch was unfolding. I don't understand why you think I'm lying.



note Ls, this line comes right after you recalled the game you mislynched him / :

pretty sure he just saw a weakness and chose to exploit it, as opposed to genuinely coming up with this himself.

No that was before I mentioned the games I had mislynched him in.


post 638 page 32 XD

then he makes the post i mentioned on 639 a min later

wouldnt make that kind of thing up : P

Ugh he didn't after I replied to him?


Wrong. He bussed me in Void day 1, I got lynched day 2 and he and JAT rode that shit to victory. He definitely busses, I think he bussed in Guardians of the Galaxy as well.

sicklucker is quite capable of making the plays when needed. Can't rule that out.

I knew void but I don't think we really bussed in Guardians it just Palmar wanted sicklucker to use the orb on him so he could ride it to victory? General rule he doesn't bus that often at all.
I know we both tunneled each other Day 1 but can you please listen to me on this and lynch DYH with me?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:29 GMT
#715
If DYH flips town I going to be pissed but at least we got some decent info for this lynch.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:33 GMT
#723
Called it boys!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:39 GMT
#733
Celebration song:

Me atm while listening to it:
[image loading]
Anyways this game just got way easier with that flip.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 24 2016 22:40 GMT
#735
On April 25 2016 07:37 Fidei86 wrote:
LS:

[image loading]

Also Dani, I notice that you aren't including me and LS in your little list.

Don't think I'm not on to you.

(High five back) Couldn't do it without you guys. Thank you following me.
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