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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 17:57 GMT
#251
On April 22 2016 01:00 Tictock wrote:
A few people asked why I left SL out of my "lynch list" earlier. It's weak but I felt like his first couple of posts were him trying to get the game going by throwing out an early vote. His last post reacting to GB's push felt kinda genuine as well.

His list post wasn't terrible and I kinda doubt he'd back off LS with the reasoning "hes so cute and trying hard" as scum.

So while SL is being very low key this game I'm not feeling like that is scum indicative.




Feeling ok about Fidei now as well. He seems like he is invested in solving the game.

I think HtS is town. Everything she's been posting looks to me like she is trying to question and evaluate people fairly. The only thing I see people scum reading her for was for her saying that activity is a bad way to read FF (she's right, it's usually a bad metric for anyone since both alignments can be lazy). I just don't see it, and she is putting out loads on content and several of her points have mirrored my own thinking so I'm inclined to believe she is town. At the very least I think she is a terrible D1 lynch given the effort/content she is making.




I think I'm going to take a nap or something then try to reread this game since it's pretty short.

Right now I'm inclined to think scum is in:
Shapelog - None of his posts have stuck out to me, he's kinda background noise
LS - Just feels off, feels like he's wasting posts and has very little to actually add
Tumblewood - that post where he says "me and LS are the people I'm thinking are town" really bugs me, and I really don't get why he's so sure on that townread on LS.
GB - All I see is him doing is tunneling SL for a silly point that never makes him mafia.

Tbh though I'm not really confident in any of my reads right now. Kinda thinking it might be a good idea to lynch into people who are not really contributing just so that later days become a bit easier and the game stays active. GB would be my pick if we go that route.

I really do not understand this. You had a case on Tumble, Has anything changed then from your case on Tumble -> this post? Because you felt like he was scum enough to vote in that post, and now you are not confident in the read here. And what sus. I can tell (obv I am not in your head) you have on him from now to the case is this:
He says:
Show nested quote +
me [Tumblewood] and LS and those are the only two people I'm thinking are town so far.


With pretty weak reasoning for the LS townread...

Which wasn't a huge part of your case. So I am kinda confused.
On April 22 2016 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
How much time do we have until deadline?

How much time do I have to wait till that post ? Almost as bad as damdred "bomb" from nut (which I am still waiting for FYI)
About 5 hours from the time of this post
Seriously, people are TRing me for bad reasons left right and centre. Dani's explanation was basically "I don't use OGI in giving reads". TT didn't even give one. Shape's was "Lol he was scum last time".

?. That wasn't my reasoning, I just inculded that to be funny.
I think I played with this guy. Back when He rolled scum with NM and kmart (if that was him.) If so I SHALL NOT BE FOOLED AGAIN! I like a lot of his posts, and more so the way he is going around the game. I wouldn't lynch him D1

To be specific: Tone wise: The post where you were admitting to nothing, and moveover the post about LS curse. And this post. As I don't know of a scum who would go like that Content wise: #221 & #226.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 18:07 GMT
#255
On April 22 2016 03:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Unfortunately I'm busier than I thought I'd be. So I won't be playing today. I'm sorry.
I'm town, again. Please don't make the same mistake you guys have been doing these latest 3 games I was in.

I'm voting with Damdred because he is my strongest townread atm

NO! YOU WILL NOT PULL A GOD DAMM DAMDRED BOMB (AND VOTE WITH DAMDRED FOR MAX. BM) ON ME!

Ok your busy, can you Please Explain the DYH and Damdred reads and any other reads you have.

Do not do this to me dwag!

[16prob.]
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 18:15 GMT
#256
On April 22 2016 03:05 GlowingBear wrote:
WOW what a horrible spread. I think I'll try to put some effort while I have these 15 minutes to spare. Brb

Ninja'ed
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 20:50 GMT
#273
Just got home, will catch up in a bit.

The Votes are pretty spread guys. Kinda goes me worrying at a first glace. Also, nothing going heavily on right now (in terms of moving things around) also got me thinking.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 20:53 GMT
#274
On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?

Agreed with SL. He doesn't seem really here much, and that last post from him wasn't great either.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 21:11 GMT
#283
On April 22 2016 04:08 Tictock wrote:
Napped longer than I expected.

That reads post from GB actually seems pretty good after a quick read. A bit hesitent to call him town though because I've seen him screw around and save his effort for EoD before as scum. Still his thoughts felt pretty coherent and reasonsble ... Idk I think I'll reevalueate after rereading the game.

@HtS About the time. I asked FF whathis thoughts on Damdred where I glanced back at his filter myself. I got the sense that his early posts where half joking half stirring up discussion which made me lean town. Since then I haven't gotten any strong feels off him.

The posts I quoted from Tumble about GB felt off to me since Tumble jumped in early on to tell GB that he was joking, but then called GB's case on SL "solid thinking" when it was about the same thing he was saying was a joke earlier. Then he caught that and retracted that read a bit. It came off to me like Tumble wasn't paying attention to what GB was talking about there even though he was around when GB first started questioning those posts from SL.

@ Shape, My read on Tumble hasn't really changed. That line just continues to bug me kus it's a weird thing for town to say. He basically said he considers LS to be as towny as himself, which either means hes totally sure LS is town or that he's not really thinking of himself as town.

That is what I thought first as well, but then accepted the fact that the body of text was referring as "LS i think is town, and I know I am town." I mean, it really wouldn't make sense for scum to write it either, even if they are partners. At least in my mind. Especially that early on, to call someone (who he has played with before, and knows LS and his nature)) as town as him makes no sense on the front.

Another question if you don't mind, If you had to pick to be most confident in lynching and flipping scum, who would you pick and why?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 21:28 GMT
#286
Yeah this absent from him is pretty damming.

GB, I like his latest posts. And kinda fufilled some sus. form him.
TT, has posted more. Though there is something I need to check.
SL has done nothing really.

I also thought by now that Gum would show up and post by now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 21:41 GMT
#297
##Vote: Sicklucker

My reasoning in my list + Still not being here

Might not stay, (as I am still looking at things) but is where my heart is.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:10 GMT
#335
Hmmm.
I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote.
On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.


And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.

You're right, it's been a while I guess.

I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy

On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes

He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today.
On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

##vote sicklucker

frig off damdred

On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would vote HTS

Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:16 GMT
#346
Saltshaker, you finally decided to show up. Just 30 mins roughly from deadline.
Yay....

Prob. my 4/5 post or w/e
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:17 GMT
#350
On April 22 2016 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'd really prefer to play later in the game where it's easier to make reads. I've posted reads when I had them.

I'd really prefer if you look and explain my second to last post.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:22 GMT
#359
Yeah, I really do not understand the lynch progression on FF. Eh, Like others pointed out (and kinda was some of my thought) SL could have came back now to do it. But, eh, he could of done it as town too.

I'm switching.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:24 GMT
#368
On April 22 2016 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 07:10 Shapelog wrote:
Hmmm.
I do not understand why FF was open to a HTS vote.
On April 21 2016 07:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.


And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.

You're right, it's been a while I guess.

I'll never pass up a chance to lynch SL, especially if he's being lazy

On April 22 2016 01:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would like to vote and lynch sicklucker if he doesn't come back. HTS you're giving me weird tone feels right now it feels like you're talking down to everyone but maybe that's just me having only been awake 10 minutes

He hasn't come back. So logic says that SL should be his lynched for today.
On April 22 2016 06:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Pssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

##vote sicklucker

frig off damdred

On April 22 2016 06:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would vote HTS

Even though he did have sus. towards HTS. i do not understand why he thinks another vote without giving reasoning behind it. FF basically said "no show = vote" yet he is still looking at other lynches. It feels a bit opportunistic, and is really concerning if Sl gets lynched and flips scum. I feel like the first few posts was just him talking to talk, but now his person is getting lynched (other than LS, which by the time he posted the sky comment, was still before he went with damdred.)

lol so saying that I'd vote SL if he doesn't show up means I am bound to doing that for the rest of the phase?

I don't like the way HTS is addressing people and the tone with which I read her posts is different from the way I remember her posting as town.

I don't understand why you voted for him, then about 30 mins later (IIRC) when a sky lynch talk happens, you say "i would vote HTS."

It doesn't make sense to me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:27 GMT
#377
Hmmm..
This swing thou.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 22:42 GMT
#405
Dammit
On April 22 2016 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Shape why did you vote ff when you were so worried about the swing etc.

I didn't really have time to change my vote tbh. My vote was before the VC (Host prob. didn't see it) and after I saw it, I saw how quicky the wagon formed. I was thinking about it, but time ran out.

If I had more mins. I prob. could of changed votes. but with 1 and 1/2 mins to go, and a bunch of things going on I got flustered.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 22 2016 21:50 GMT
#445
Alright, I am split right now between games, but I am here and will read stuff and publish some reads hopefully before the day ends.

Some of you are asking me about my vote. The reason I switch is because the "I would vote HTS" post didn't make sense to me. Then I cast my vote for FF. After I saw the VC (which came after the deadline) I made the commit about it being swing, but by that time, time was up for me. As my clock was ahead by a min (6:29).

that is basically it. If i had more Time i would argue and switch but I didn't
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 22 2016 22:10 GMT
#452
Alright.
This game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 22 2016 22:39 GMT
#472
Nice! This is what I needed after getting ML
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 22 2016 23:13 GMT
#479
Hts, I don't understand the associative read in some places.

Primary The first 2 really aren't associative with SL at all really IMO. They are calling FF out on something that I am guessing TW missed while reading FF. (this is after the read list via time stamp)

I understand #315 and the last. The last two is kinda weird on themselves. (the change)

I can kinda understand Tumble also about the opinion on FF part. I feel he said that because people were calling him scum for things at the time (while SL wasn't heavily talked about) and he felt like he should have a opinion on him. have to relook though.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 24 2016 22:07 GMT
#683
I MADE IT! JAIL COULDN'T HOLD ME!

Catching up.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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