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On April 25 2016 05:36 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 05:29 DoYouHas wrote:On April 25 2016 05:24 Fidei86 wrote:
There are lots of other points against me - #1 is I have no f'ing idea who I want to vote this evening. Activity could be a thing - I have tons of OGI excuses, but I know those don't carry any weight.
Does it seem likely that scum gumshoe calls the wagon on Koshi dumpster, when that's the only other one going?
Any reasoning we can have around gum is WIFOMed all to hell. As soon as anyone asks to be lynched they are playing against their win condition. All that is left is whether or not town will do it more often than scum. My win condition is for all of scum to die before all of town. There's no rule that states that not getting lynched is my part of my win con, my death may very well benefit town and we still have 2 mislynches even if I die.
I don't agree with you. But I like this response.
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On April 25 2016 05:45 Half the Sky wrote:19/40 Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 05:15 DoYouHas wrote:
@HtS - Why don't you agree with me on Fid. What are you seeing in his play that is scummy that I am not? The only mark I have against him is that he drops off hard as scum and he hasn't posted much recently. I was trying to figure out his general direction on who he's trying to lynch, besides his dropping off, I'm not clear on whether he's waiting to pick up on a lynch like SL or what....beginning of day 2, his approaches were all over the shop. If you look at page 2 of his filter he doesn't have a clear direction which makes me question whether he's a low activity mafia. Now I see he's trying to figure the game out but at the time I wasn't clear. On the other hand, you also have Shapelog who hasn't posted hardly dick all this cycle either.
This is what is eating at me. I was convinced Shape was scum. The sl flip made that less likely. I don't want to drop him from my suspect list, especially since he hasn't said a word for a while, but I don't see him being scum with Koshi.
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On April 25 2016 05:56 Half the Sky wrote:20/40 Show nested quote +On April 25 2016 05:49 DoYouHas wrote:On April 25 2016 05:45 Half the Sky wrote:19/40 On April 25 2016 05:15 DoYouHas wrote:
@HtS - Why don't you agree with me on Fid. What are you seeing in his play that is scummy that I am not? The only mark I have against him is that he drops off hard as scum and he hasn't posted much recently. I was trying to figure out his general direction on who he's trying to lynch, besides his dropping off, I'm not clear on whether he's waiting to pick up on a lynch like SL or what....beginning of day 2, his approaches were all over the shop. If you look at page 2 of his filter he doesn't have a clear direction which makes me question whether he's a low activity mafia. Now I see he's trying to figure the game out but at the time I wasn't clear. On the other hand, you also have Shapelog who hasn't posted hardly dick all this cycle either. This is what is eating at me. I was convinced Shape was scum. The sl flip made that less likely. I don't want to drop him from my suspect list, especially since he hasn't said a word for a while, but I don't see him being scum with Koshi. Lord this is a good point. I might have to start using a spreadsheet at this rate. The main thing that troubles me about you tbh is you have said a lot about Shape and Koshi (and exclusively Shape most of the game), but little on some of the others save that one list post. If you are town and you are wrong on either one of them, you are effectively giving Tictock, GB, even LS (from your latest perspective) a free pass. If you are mafia, you are doing a good job of just staying out of suspicion and keeping attention off the right people.
I have been giving TT a free pass unfortunately. He just hasn't drawn my attention much. LS confuses me at the moment, which is why I asked him those questions. He isn't comfortable with a gum lynch, he leans town on GB, he leans town on Koshi, he leans town on you. There is a lack of evolving reads around some of the most polarizing players in the game ATM.
I just think you are wrong on GB, though I'm giving your and gum's points a harder look to see if I can justify my read against them.
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Guys, I got an invite to play some league with friends I haven't talked to in a long time. I'm off through deadline. Lynch Koshi.
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We were completely out of control of the thread most of the game. Our only hope was position well and pray the town couldn't work together and would implode. Which is exactly what they did.
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For me it was The Game. I got so disheartened that I didn't play for like 3 years. Eventually I got the itch to solve games again, though I suppose I could have just as easily kept on doing other stuff.
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On May 04 2016 22:25 NocturneMage wrote:
someone said in qt koshi pissed off too many people to be an effective player. IDK about that. I can see that going both ways.
That was me and let me explain it a little further, because I think I'm the minority opinion here.
Koshi had a very aggressive style right from the start, which is fine and can work well (although not my style as I have a much easier time being combative as scum than being productive). However, he did jump up and down on people for things that didn't make them mafia and spent a lot of posts calling people and their play bad/stupid. This doesn't do anything beneficial and in fact tends to cause other townies to dig their heals in and stick to their own thoughts even more. This was very clearly evidenced in the fact that while Koshi was generally townread and in no risk of being lynched the last 3 days, practically nobody worked with him, instead followed their own analysis. Instead of building a towncircle Koshi just attacked people who should have been on his side and he paid for it when nobody listened to him.
Being right is great but doesn't matter if you can't convince others. Being a townie is 1/3 looking townie, 1/3 solving and being right, and 1/3 coalition building. Koshi was 2/3rds of a great town player this game.
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