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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 03:39 GMT
#1120
for what it's worth i think your excitement over ows/sl just makes you look more townie?

kinda...not really...seeing the narrative here though -ducks- like if they're actually discussing how to deal with it in qt as you think they are, do you think they wouldn't go hey maybe shouldn't post at once on top of that? like why would both come out to handle it? lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 03:42 GMT
#1124
On April 19 2016 12:40 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 12:37 gumshoe wrote:
Last thing tumble

Ok, I assume the vig shot fazers. Everything else would make me quite mad.
Superbia claims with his first post today.


jat said this right after the night shot.

If he was really intending to use the palmar shot to back supers claim, why would he be one of the first people to strike down that possibility?

and even if he is both those things, he clearly expected fazzers to get shot(or at least isnt suprised that he was), so why did he think this plan was any better than a straight doc claim in the first place?

dont just try to be right, think about this, hard, this isnt a small detail, it's a supposed total collapse in logic. Would jat make a play that bad?

goddammit even i can't argue with that


-pokes- let's pretend we're both not scum to each other and talk reads! \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 03:50 GMT
#1128
On April 19 2016 12:45 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 12:39 rsoultin wrote:
for what it's worth i think your excitement over ows/sl just makes you look more townie?

kinda...not really...seeing the narrative here though -ducks- like if they're actually discussing how to deal with it in qt as you think they are, do you think they wouldn't go hey maybe shouldn't post at once on top of that? like why would both come out to handle it? lol


as you already know, I dont have a very high opinion of the scum team (the palmer vig shot plan)

them not thinking to divide eachothers protests is a perfectly viable expectation of the profile well have of them once super flips.

also maybe this is just me bieng a bit arrogant, but if you were the scum team and the one dude everyone thinks is town (for derp or skill, pick your poisen) who was totally cool with you till now suddenly calls you both out, Is a little panick not to be expected?

the alternative is sheer fucking luck / :



o.0 i'm not saying super can't be scum (i wouldn't be voting him if i didn't think he was) but i am saying that hoping to claim palmar as a vig shot is a bit of a stretch, and you probably shouldn't base all your assumptions on how the scum team is composed and how they'll operate on that

(just as i shouldn't base my scumhunting on my super/tw narrative even though it's tempting)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 03:52 GMT
#1130
On April 19 2016 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 12:42 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 12:40 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 19 2016 12:37 gumshoe wrote:
Last thing tumble

Ok, I assume the vig shot fazers. Everything else would make me quite mad.
Superbia claims with his first post today.


jat said this right after the night shot.

If he was really intending to use the palmar shot to back supers claim, why would he be one of the first people to strike down that possibility?

and even if he is both those things, he clearly expected fazzers to get shot(or at least isnt suprised that he was), so why did he think this plan was any better than a straight doc claim in the first place?

dont just try to be right, think about this, hard, this isnt a small detail, it's a supposed total collapse in logic. Would jat make a play that bad?

goddammit even i can't argue with that


-pokes- let's pretend we're both not scum to each other and talk reads! \o/

ok we both need a third scum right


well i honestly didn't have a hard third to begin with so completely back to the drawing board for me ^^ like i kinda still think you're scum but that post just felt townie to me @.@ aaaaaand it's not going to help you or i get untunneled if you're actually town if all we do is snipe at each other

so why not give it a shot?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 03:56 GMT
#1132
i think i'm actually gonna go with individual reads and stop the shitty pre-flip association stuff i've been falling into, and then look at it from super flipping scum vs super flipping town perspectives and see what that gives me

what i can get done in an hour anyway...class tomorrow (which btw won't be around much because of that until an hour or so before lynch) and can't stay up too late ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:02 GMT
#1136
On April 19 2016 12:54 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 12:50 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 12:45 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 12:39 rsoultin wrote:
for what it's worth i think your excitement over ows/sl just makes you look more townie?

kinda...not really...seeing the narrative here though -ducks- like if they're actually discussing how to deal with it in qt as you think they are, do you think they wouldn't go hey maybe shouldn't post at once on top of that? like why would both come out to handle it? lol


as you already know, I dont have a very high opinion of the scum team (the palmer vig shot plan)

them not thinking to divide eachothers protests is a perfectly viable expectation of the profile well have of them once super flips.

also maybe this is just me bieng a bit arrogant, but if you were the scum team and the one dude everyone thinks is town (for derp or skill, pick your poisen) who was totally cool with you till now suddenly calls you both out, Is a little panick not to be expected?

the alternative is sheer fucking luck / :



o.0 i'm not saying super can't be scum (i wouldn't be voting him if i didn't think he was) but i am saying that hoping to claim palmar as a vig shot is a bit of a stretch, and you probably shouldn't base all your assumptions on how the scum team is composed and how they'll operate on that

(just as i shouldn't base my scumhunting on my super/tw narrative even though it's tempting)


Show nested quote +

If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.


rsoul, if super flips scum, we know two things about them. 1 they set it up so that if palmer died it would match supers potential vig claim

2: They shot palmer

I dont think this is that big a stretch / :


eh idk

like i just went actually think it might be more likely for mafia to do that to frame super than the other way around, but then i thought well...they'd have to be pretty sure super wasn't vig then so prob not

maybe. it still seems very retarded :/ i guess when you're desperate you might think it could pay off so why not?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:12 GMT
#1147
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna

gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is

feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips

shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out

but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him

not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:13 GMT
#1150
On April 19 2016 13:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm super tempted to townread SL for being the voice of reason here.


lol i hope you realize how awful that reason for townreading sl would be

maybe not as awful as feeeeeeels

but then again, maybe worse
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:17 GMT
#1159
On April 19 2016 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care?


nah lol i was tinfoiling hard. i'm not sure what you are but if you're mafia it's not for insisting we shouldn't lynch super i was being kinda retarded there

i still don't think i've seen much brilliance from you. i actually am accustomed to seeing it from a town ows even if other people might say differently
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:22 GMT
#1167
On April 19 2016 13:16 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna

gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is

feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips

shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out

but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him

not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@

no pls rsoul go back to being scum I liked you when I could dismiss everything you said
sigh
why is rels a top town for you?
also why isn't ows town


mmm it may mostly be he's been agreeing with me a lot i'm not gonna lie. i'm susceptible to thinking that someone seeing the game the same way i am for the most part is more likely to be the same alignment. but also he just reminds me of a nicer, calmer version of rayn who likes to focus on the logic behind things and tends to think illogical=scum

and that's what his play looks like to me here

ows is paranoia and yeah i'm waiting for the brilliance. he's like the anti-rels...we've barely agreed on anything after my scattershot in the dark early d1 reads
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:23 GMT
#1168
On April 19 2016 13:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:17 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Don't you think I'm mafia or something? Why do you even care?


nah lol i was tinfoiling hard. i'm not sure what you are but if you're mafia it's not for insisting we shouldn't lynch super i was being kinda retarded there

i still don't think i've seen much brilliance from you. i actually am accustomed to seeing it from a town ows even if other people might say differently


Huh.


we're so not on the same page it isn't even funny, and while that's fine, i don't remember seeing a post from you that just made me go oh hey that's smart could be town ^^;
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 04:26 GMT
#1169
On April 19 2016 13:17 sicklucker wrote:
I should prop read rsouls filter I ignored her completely because I dont think id ever lynch her day 1 as town. But well auto lynch today lazy tada


i betrayed the heart of the town!palmar by reading him correctly and having too many "confident" reads in my lynch maybe lynch no lynch d1 reads lists lol >< but have fun. i know how much you looooooove reading my posts
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 10:58 GMT
#1220
On April 19 2016 14:48 sicklucker wrote:
like your just going to have to trust me. hes not the doctor


of course he's not the doctor
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 11:03 GMT
#1224
On April 19 2016 18:15 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:22 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 13:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 19 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna

gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is

feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips

shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out

but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him

not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@

no pls rsoul go back to being scum I liked you when I could dismiss everything you said
sigh
why is rels a top town for you?
also why isn't ows town


mmm it may mostly be he's been agreeing with me a lot i'm not gonna lie. i'm susceptible to thinking that someone seeing the game the same way i am for the most part is more likely to be the same alignment. but also he just reminds me of a nicer, calmer version of rayn who likes to focus on the logic behind things and tends to think illogical=scum

and that's what his play looks like to me here

What happened to "when he's town we usually don't agree" ?
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 03:05 rsoultin wrote:
On April 16 2016 02:57 Tumblewood wrote:
rsoul, why do you townread rels after just posting disagreements/question marks in response to him?


+ Show Spoiler +
porque normalmente no estamos de acuerdo...él enfoca en el lógico y yo en otras cosas porque la mayoría de los jugadores no son lógicos. esto no es decir que rels no es del pueblo. creo que es del pueblo porque está preguntando en direcciones diferentes, probablamente para establecer sus opiniones sobre lo más jugadores posible


Because we usually don't agree...he focuses on logic while I focus on other things because most players aren't logical. This isn't to say that rels isn't town. I believe he is because he's probing in different directions, which is probably to develop reads on as many players as possible.


when i'm town i usually don't sit here around d2 talking about the logic behind claims or pushing someone for a discrepancy like with tw -shrugs- it was just soooooo bad i couldn't see it coming from town. i think there's a remote chance it might have come from town though now mind-boggling as that is

basically, i logicked more this game than i usually do this early lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 11:50 GMT
#1227
On April 19 2016 20:42 sicklucker wrote:
but who is the doctor?

[image loading]


the world may never know...

how many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie pop?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 13:50 GMT
#1253
On April 19 2016 22:41 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 13:12 rsoultin wrote:
:/ so yeah i just looked at the op with all the filters and went meeeeeeh don't wanna

gum/jat/rels still top towns like yeah ^^ i think...i may...want to do the insane...and actually put sl here, too. and what's worse is i'm not even sure why lol it just feeeeeels like he's toooooown cause of engagement and i know jat will jump all over me for this but the only thing i have to say is

feeeeeeels <- i can't explain these bad boys. and given it's sl there's not a whole lot else i can use anyway especially pre-mafia flips

shape bugs me cause of lots of little things really and i'm not sure how valid they are cause i don't think i've ever played with him when i wasn't mafia before and i'm a baddy and don't pay close enough attention when i don't have to figure people out

but this concentrating on irrelevant things today just doesn't make me feel good about him

not as sure on tw cause of bad reasons @.@

I do it as either aligment

Though, list the small things. We still have like 8 hours left of discussion.


remind me during the night phase...little twitchy things like the doc role focus and your eod stick in my mind but i know there were other, smaller ones that i've now forgotten lol and i'm off to class

it may be true that you do this as either alignment. i know that some players like koshi and vivax actually spew themselves town by doing it but in general when people are kinda disconnected like that it's cause they don't know what to talk about so usually scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 13:56 GMT
#1256
still say that if anything other than the

"you guys are so awful to think i'm scum when i'm an uncc'd doc but claimed under pressure on d1 and have done jack shit since"

makes him scum it's that awful reaction to jat's response ^^ i could maybe see it maaaaaybe from him not wanting to be vig shot when he's bound to be rb'd anyway if he's actually not scum, but that falls off in the face of his lack of activity, and it's just way more likely he was mad cause he was hoping people would townread him instead of dodge mafia actions like a real blue posting that would be doing
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 13:57 GMT
#1258
anyway i'm out for realz folks, ciao ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 21:24 GMT
#1387
On April 20 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 06:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Since you are here super, can you like spitball ideas about the game? Just like things that you think off the top of your head etc.


You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI.


lol assuming you're even still here, what changed between not playing and townreading me and then not playing and scumreading me? xP epiphany? did your cornflakes say it?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 19 2016 21:27 GMT
#1393
On April 20 2016 06:25 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
On April 20 2016 06:18 Superbia wrote:
On April 20 2016 06:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Since you are here super, can you like spitball ideas about the game? Just like things that you think off the top of your head etc.


You're in my PoE scum list. Together with TW and SL. Maybe RSO scum. Maybe Obi bc TMI.


lol assuming you're even still here, what changed between not playing and townreading me and then not playing and scumreading me? xP epiphany? did your cornflakes say it?


The way you went against my claim.


elaborate
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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