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justanothertownie
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Rels
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On April 15 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote: Rels didn't lie. How boring. What a revelation ^^ | ||
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justanothertownie
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Ikr | ||
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Rels
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On April 15 2016 23:31 Rels wrote: Something like that. Alright gumshoe can you expand on your GB's townread ? I think your "1 of the 4 people caring about the game" thing is bullshit because: - it was so close to the start of the game, so if he's posting ofc he's going to be one of the only posters, regardless of his alignment - he made only 1 serious post at that point, asking about your thoughts on him when he asked Rsol if she was town, It looked like he was doing that purely based off Onegu's vote (who he was antagonistic towards with his her der post) I figured theres was something more going on there, wether that was a dynamic between rsoul or scum trying to open up against onegu, I asked Rsoul what she thought to figure that out. She said it was something that he does most games they play, which means that even if Gb did it malevolently, there isnt much way to tell the two apart. Ergo, Gb is null at worst. Coupled with Rsoul saying this is the kind of thing Gb does as town, I trusted the opinion of someone more familiar with him, and as Rsoul's statement does not fluctuate according to her alignment (though I do townread her a bit off feel) I upticked Gb to green. Also I'd like to contest three points of yours. 1: it was so close to the start of the game, so if he's posting ofc he's going to be one of the only posters, To the people present, the game did indeed feel quite dead Well, normally I just talk in one :/ not translate back and forth. Quiet thread is quiet. Nothing overly notable has happened, imo. so even if not much time had actually passed, the perception was that things were going slow. To actively engage when things are fairly dead usually feels townie to me, though as I said, it's not something I'm overly confident about. For contrast, Palmer who I currently scum read a smidge, ##vote rsoultin casually jumped in to enforce shit posting (thereby acknowledging it's existence) and then left without trying to change the situation. Does that outright make Palmer scum? No, but in contrast Gb looks far better for his attempts at dialogue. 2: Every post is a serious post, attempts at breaking the ice come paired with mood, which is always readable. Or at least thats what I believe, so at the time of reading of Gb, I regarded all his posts with weight, not just the one where he questions me. 3: You claim day 1 is easy, well I frankly disagree, for me it's almost always a nightmare that usually ends with me actually hitting the ground. Also, your currently coming after me, which means it cant be that easy for you ethier / : | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On April 15 2016 22:51 JustAnotherScummer wrote: Minus being noticed by the other chaps before I commented on it. Sometimes, the most obvious of masks, are simply a common idea, of a which the person wearing the mask thinks of. But I am slowly turning into my cousin V, so i digress from the mask talk. It's a townie process. He could be a strong scum and fake it but it's town indicative. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
I kinda town read Obi Nothing overly notable has happened, imo. Well, that's not 100% true. I have two or three tenative townreads atm - you and Gb, possibly Palmar if I'm feeling generous. I feel like scum would be less likely to double back like that, it's the kind of mistake scum would be on guard not to make / : be back in like 4 hours, glhf | ||
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justanothertownie
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On April 15 2016 23:52 Rels wrote: I fucking hope JAS smurffails posting a super eloquent post and it's revealed to be like VA lol, no way | ||
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justanothertownie
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On April 15 2016 23:55 Rels wrote: He might be town. He had this idea of Palmar being suspicious for X, I & others tell him X is NAI, he is like "OK" but still wants to defend his idea: It's a townie process. He could be a strong scum and fake it but it's town indicative. No, it is really not. | ||
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justanothertownie
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On April 15 2016 23:53 gumshoe wrote: when he asked Rsol if she was town, It looked like he was doing that purely based off Onegu's vote (who he was antagonistic towards with his her der post) I figured theres was something more going on there, wether that was a dynamic between rsoul or scum trying to open up against onegu, I asked Rsoul what she thought to figure that out. She said it was something that he does most games they play, which means that even if Gb did it malevolently, there isnt much way to tell the two apart. Ergo, Gb is null at worst. Coupled with Rsoul saying this is the kind of thing Gb does as town, I trusted the opinion of someone more familiar with him, and as Rsoul's statement does not fluctuate according to her alignment (though I do townread her a bit off feel) I upticked Gb to green. Also I'd like to contest three points of yours. 1: To the people present, the game did indeed feel quite dead so even if not much time had actually passed, the perception was that things were going slow. To actively engage when things are fairly dead usually feels townie to me, though as I said, it's not something I'm overly confident about. For contrast, Palmer who I currently scum read a smidge, casually jumped in to enforce shit posting (thereby acknowledging it's existence) and then left without trying to change the situation. Does that outright make Palmer scum? No, but in contrast Gb looks far better for his attempts at dialogue. 2: Every post is a serious post, attempts at breaking the ice come paired with mood, which is always readable. Or at least thats what I believe, so at the time of reading of Gb, I regarded all his posts with weight, not just the one where he questions me. 3: You claim day 1 is easy, well I frankly disagree, for me it's almost always a nightmare that usually ends with me actually hitting the ground. Also, your currently coming after me, which means it cant be that easy for you ethier / : D1 is not easy for me, JAS said that. OK on your GB townread, I suppose it can be logical. Will check if you can replicate your town game as scum though. If you scumread Palmar, what do you think of several people posting in thread that Palmar can do this as town ? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On April 15 2016 23:59 justanothertownie wrote: Mafia instinctively defend their points to not look like they are making up bullshit. OK that could also be the case actually. | ||
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JustAnotherScummer
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On April 15 2016 23:07 gumshoe wrote: reads I am usually confident with come from 1: players who I have played many games with and am familiar with, example, I usually have a really good read on rayn and am able to acertain his loyalty pretty fast (the game before the last one I played I was convinced he was town accordingly with his outbursts while many were certain he was scum) or 2: players who as the days go on seems pretty clearly town via thier voting patterns and thier actions ( again, the game before my last one is a good example, though cant remember the name, in that game there were several voting patterns that seemed silly coming from scum) Currently neither of these 2 are present, so any town read I give is tentative. Furthermore, even if a player fits one of the criteria, I have still been dead wrong in the past (bh in that very same game) the difference is that scum have to play a really good or confusing game to meet my criteria, which is why I generally count it as reliable. As for what I'd jump on, In the last game I played (the one we were just in, you know where I got shot for reading too much into stuff early) Kurumi (who was scum) accused me and someone who was already accusing me(sick I think) pretty much in the same post. This indicated that he was not trying to create a picture of associations in his head, but rather attacking whatever weakness he saw in order to look productive. This is the kind of contradiction I would jump on day 1, the kind of contradiction that isn't currently present / : Ah, the meta induced read. Yes, I know that well. Probably why in every game I played to date, I would get suspected due to this special behavior I am presented. another understandable point. The reason I ask, is because that everyone treats early reads differently. Some are more meta based and soul reads, then others, who based their glee and suspension on what has been said. I am sad that I do not know what game you are talking about. I check the data base, run by Mr. Kitaman27, and look at it when I get free time. | ||
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Rels
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 15 2016 23:44 Rels wrote: rsoul who would you lynch if the deadline was right now ? + Show Spoiler + No tengo ningun idea lol >< Tengo unos jugadores a quienes no me gusta matar pero eso es todo. -gum -rels -gb (la obsesión con algo que gum ya ha explicado es meh pero en balance...) No clue lol >< I have a few players who I don't want to lynch but that's all. -gum -rels -gb (his obsession with something that gum's already explained is meh but on balance...) | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On April 16 2016 00:11 rsoultin wrote: + Show Spoiler + No tengo ningun idea lol >< Tengo unos jugadores a quienes no me gusta matar pero eso es todo. -gum -rels -gb (la obsesión con algo que gum ya ha explicado es meh pero en balance...) No clue lol >< I have a few players who I don't want to lynch but that's all. -gum -rels -gb (his obsession with something that gum's already explained is meh but on balance...) good answer. It's not possible to name someone that is likely to flip scum right now | ||
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Rels
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Palmar
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justanothertownie
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Would even policy lynch her for the continued spanish thing. | ||
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