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JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 15 2016 13:39 GMT
#181
On April 15 2016 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you slam?

Sadly no, however, perhaps we share a secret bondage of blood and DNA.
Hmmm, Do i smell with nose?
On April 15 2016 22:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:28 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Also, pulling shit out of his ass with the random percent.

Since when have the most splendid of players decided to just randomly do that? Perhaps I have missed a cultural change on Teamlqiuid, since I last played.

So when DID you last play? Because I have been playing for a few years now and this is typical Palmar.
Can you explain why you think doing that is scunmy in general?


I think it was a year ago or so. I forget which game in particular (Or i might just be saying that, to avoid giving my identity out, wittiness protection program and all that), but he was active and trying to find things out. And then as scum he was lazying his way though the game.

As for why I think that is scummy, it mostly has to do with the time stamps (almost 7 hours). I feel like he could of already have a comment on something, yet he does not. It appears almost that he is masking his existence by those posts, Much as I am masking my identity behind this smurf.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 15 2016 13:40 GMT
#182
On April 15 2016 22:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
I am suspicious of Palmar right now after a quick glace of his filter. Perhaps it is due to him not posting anything other than these two posts. But it also has to do with the posts themselves.
On April 15 2016 08:44 Palmar wrote:
##vote rsoultin

Roughly thirteen hours ago, at the time of this post.
On April 15 2016 17:42 Palmar wrote:
I am happy with my vote. Rsoultin has 81% chance of flipping mafia here.

Roughly four hours ago, at the time of this post.

Utter nothingness other than a lynch onto Rsoul. No thoughts, nothing, despite being in the thread twice. I expected more from a man who said he was going to lead a lynch on me pre-game, and the pleasure, that of which, are the town games I've had the time to watch from back then. Or the games he and I have played before.

This is completely NAI as he did exactly this as town in the last game he played in and was lynched D1 for it.

Ah,
Well hopefully Mr. Palmar will come back and give his thoughts upon the game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 13:45 GMT
#183
On April 15 2016 22:39 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you slam?

Sadly no, however, perhaps we share a secret bondage of blood and DNA.
Hmmm, Do i smell with nose?
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:28 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Also, pulling shit out of his ass with the random percent.

Since when have the most splendid of players decided to just randomly do that? Perhaps I have missed a cultural change on Teamlqiuid, since I last played.

So when DID you last play? Because I have been playing for a few years now and this is typical Palmar.
Can you explain why you think doing that is scunmy in general?


I think it was a year ago or so. I forget which game in particular (Or i might just be saying that, to avoid giving my identity out, wittiness protection program and all that), but he was active and trying to find things out. And then as scum he was lazying his way though the game.

As for why I think that is scummy, it mostly has to do with the time stamps (almost 7 hours). I feel like he could of already have a comment on something, yet he does not. It appears almost that he is masking his existence by those posts, Much as I am masking my identity behind this smurf.

Don't you think what he did was kinda blatant? So if he is trying to mask anything he is doing a pretty poor job at it.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 13:51 GMT
#184
+ Show Spoiler +
Estoy de acuerdo con JAT. Para mí es un poco extraño en el sentido que expecto tener pensamientos cercanos a los del Palmar en un juego normal, pero no hubo mucho de interés en el foro hasta eso punto, así que no se resuelta en ningún tipo de decisión sobre su alineamiento. No es tan extraño para comentar Palmar en sólo una persona, particularmente con esta escasez de información.

El hecho que JAS se conocen a JAT pero no a Palmar es...extraño. Bien extraño.

En otras noticias, hoy no votaré rels tampoco. Pero no creo que gumshoe es la más interesante cosa en el foro ^^ Ni estoy de acuerdo que su meta para onegu es tán fuerte; tengo un método para determinar su alineamiento pero es más de su manera de jugar y no de su comportamiento. Estar "feliz" es demaciado sencillo.


I agree with Jat. In a normal game I expect to see some of my thoughts reflected in Palmar's posts normally, so in that sense I find it a little strange, but really not much has gone in the thread so it doesn't really give me a strong feel for his alignment. Palmar just commenting on one person isn't really that odd, especially with so little information.

The fact that Jas knows Jat but not Palmar is really very strange.

In other news, not gonna vote Rels today ^^ I really don't think that gumshoe is the most interesting thing in the thread, though, and I also don't think your meta read on Onegu is very reliable. My method for reading him has more to do with how he plays than his attitude. Just being "happy" is over-simplistic.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 15 2016 13:51 GMT
#185
On April 15 2016 22:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:39 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Are you slam?

Sadly no, however, perhaps we share a secret bondage of blood and DNA.
Hmmm, Do i smell with nose?
On April 15 2016 22:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:28 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Also, pulling shit out of his ass with the random percent.

Since when have the most splendid of players decided to just randomly do that? Perhaps I have missed a cultural change on Teamlqiuid, since I last played.

So when DID you last play? Because I have been playing for a few years now and this is typical Palmar.
Can you explain why you think doing that is scunmy in general?


I think it was a year ago or so. I forget which game in particular (Or i might just be saying that, to avoid giving my identity out, wittiness protection program and all that), but he was active and trying to find things out. And then as scum he was lazying his way though the game.

As for why I think that is scummy, it mostly has to do with the time stamps (almost 7 hours). I feel like he could of already have a comment on something, yet he does not. It appears almost that he is masking his existence by those posts, Much as I am masking my identity behind this smurf.

Don't you think what he did was kinda blatant? So if he is trying to mask anything he is doing a pretty poor job at it.

Minus being noticed by the other chaps before I commented on it. Sometimes, the most obvious of masks, are simply a common idea, of a which the person wearing the mask thinks of. But I am slowly turning into my cousin V, so i digress from the mask talk.
JustAnotherScummer
Profile Joined March 2016
165 Posts
April 15 2016 13:52 GMT
#186
Please, Call me S. It would be much simpler that way, my dear.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 13:55 GMT
#187
On April 15 2016 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
##vote rsoultin

I want to be one of the cool kids, too!

Onegu and I have a one-sided rivalry. It's delicious He votes. I ignore him unless he gets good.

Onegu always votes me. GB generally tries to get my attention and get me to read him when he's town, but I don't actually think that one post is enough to townread him for. Essentially I don't think it actually has anything to do with Onegu's vote.

Lexy likes chocolate. It depends on the day for me ^^

+ Show Spoiler +

Me gusta ser uno de los chicos de moda también.

Onegu y yo tenemos una rivaldad unilateral. ¡Es rica! Vota. A él le ignoro a menos que se vuelve bueno.

Onegu siempre me vota. Generalmente GB atenta captar mi atención y me provoca decidir en su alineamiento cuando es del pueblo, pero de veras no pienso que es suficiente para decir: es del pueblo. Es decir que no creo que fuera una reacción al voto de Onegu.

A Lexy le gusta el chocolate. Para mí depende del día.

It's not so one-sided and you don't really seem to ignore him since apparently his antics were enough for you to make this post with a selfvote. I don't see the point of this post.
On April 15 2016 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
:/ "pueblo" doesn't really translate to English, but I think it captures the spirit of the people against the elite that is mafia!

(and yeah, hard to say before the game really gets started, but I think GB is probably town here, too. i have a pretty good record when it comes to reading him which is why his deliberately getting my attention is generally a sign that he's town)

+ Show Spoiler +

De veras, "pueblo" no se traduce a ninguna palabra en inglés, pero pienso que lo captura el espíritu de la gente común contra la élite que es el juego de mafia.

Y, sí, es difícil estar segura antes de que empiece el juego, pero pienso que GB es probablemente parte del pueblo, también. Tengo un buen récord de identificar su alineamiento, lo cual es porque su atento a obtener mi atencíon es generalmente un indicio que es del pueblo.

This seems extremely premature too.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 13:56 GMT
#188
+ Show Spoiler +
El punto es que no es un indicio de su alineamiento. Por supuesto puede hacerlo como ambos. @.@


The point is it's NAI. Of course he can do it as both alignments @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 13:58 GMT
#189
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 15 2016 13:58 GMT
#190
On April 15 2016 22:51 rsoultin wrote:
I also don't think your meta read on Onegu is very reliable. My method for reading him has more to do with how he plays than his attitude. Just being "happy" is over-simplistic.

It's an small indicator. Onegu likes being scum and does not like being town. Him being all excited is a little bit weird if he's town.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 14:00 GMT
#191
On April 15 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
##vote rsoultin

I want to be one of the cool kids, too!

Onegu and I have a one-sided rivalry. It's delicious He votes. I ignore him unless he gets good.

Onegu always votes me. GB generally tries to get my attention and get me to read him when he's town, but I don't actually think that one post is enough to townread him for. Essentially I don't think it actually has anything to do with Onegu's vote.

Lexy likes chocolate. It depends on the day for me ^^

+ Show Spoiler +

Me gusta ser uno de los chicos de moda también.

Onegu y yo tenemos una rivaldad unilateral. ¡Es rica! Vota. A él le ignoro a menos que se vuelve bueno.

Onegu siempre me vota. Generalmente GB atenta captar mi atención y me provoca decidir en su alineamiento cuando es del pueblo, pero de veras no pienso que es suficiente para decir: es del pueblo. Es decir que no creo que fuera una reacción al voto de Onegu.

A Lexy le gusta el chocolate. Para mí depende del día.

It's not so one-sided and you don't really seem to ignore him since apparently his antics were enough for you to make this post with a selfvote. I don't see the point of this post.
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
:/ "pueblo" doesn't really translate to English, but I think it captures the spirit of the people against the elite that is mafia!

(and yeah, hard to say before the game really gets started, but I think GB is probably town here, too. i have a pretty good record when it comes to reading him which is why his deliberately getting my attention is generally a sign that he's town)

+ Show Spoiler +

De veras, "pueblo" no se traduce a ninguna palabra en inglés, pero pienso que lo captura el espíritu de la gente común contra la élite que es el juego de mafia.

Y, sí, es difícil estar segura antes de que empiece el juego, pero pienso que GB es probablemente parte del pueblo, también. Tengo un buen récord de identificar su alineamiento, lo cual es porque su atento a obtener mi atencíon es generalmente un indicio que es del pueblo.

This seems extremely premature too.


+ Show Spoiler +
Posiblemente. ¿No es bueno que podemos cambiar nuestra opiniones? (Estaba respondiendo a los otros votos pero puedo entender la confusión


Possibly. Isn't it good that we can change our opinions? (I was responding to the other "votes" but I can understand the confusion.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 15 2016 14:01 GMT
#192
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 14:02 GMT
#193
On April 15 2016 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
##vote rsoultin

I want to be one of the cool kids, too!

Onegu and I have a one-sided rivalry. It's delicious He votes. I ignore him unless he gets good.

Onegu always votes me. GB generally tries to get my attention and get me to read him when he's town, but I don't actually think that one post is enough to townread him for. Essentially I don't think it actually has anything to do with Onegu's vote.

Lexy likes chocolate. It depends on the day for me ^^

+ Show Spoiler +

Me gusta ser uno de los chicos de moda también.

Onegu y yo tenemos una rivaldad unilateral. ¡Es rica! Vota. A él le ignoro a menos que se vuelve bueno.

Onegu siempre me vota. Generalmente GB atenta captar mi atención y me provoca decidir en su alineamiento cuando es del pueblo, pero de veras no pienso que es suficiente para decir: es del pueblo. Es decir que no creo que fuera una reacción al voto de Onegu.

A Lexy le gusta el chocolate. Para mí depende del día.

It's not so one-sided and you don't really seem to ignore him since apparently his antics were enough for you to make this post with a selfvote. I don't see the point of this post.
On April 15 2016 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
:/ "pueblo" doesn't really translate to English, but I think it captures the spirit of the people against the elite that is mafia!

(and yeah, hard to say before the game really gets started, but I think GB is probably town here, too. i have a pretty good record when it comes to reading him which is why his deliberately getting my attention is generally a sign that he's town)

+ Show Spoiler +

De veras, "pueblo" no se traduce a ninguna palabra en inglés, pero pienso que lo captura el espíritu de la gente común contra la élite que es el juego de mafia.

Y, sí, es difícil estar segura antes de que empiece el juego, pero pienso que GB es probablemente parte del pueblo, también. Tengo un buen récord de identificar su alineamiento, lo cual es porque su atento a obtener mi atencíon es generalmente un indicio que es del pueblo.

This seems extremely premature too.


+ Show Spoiler +
Posiblemente. ¿No es bueno que podemos cambiar nuestra opiniones? (Estaba respondiendo a los otros votos pero puedo entender la confusión


Possibly. Isn't it good that we can change our opinions?

Yes! That's really great. But why give it if you don't believe in it? Or are you posting just to post?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 14:04 GMT
#194
On April 15 2016 22:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:51 rsoultin wrote:
I also don't think your meta read on Onegu is very reliable. My method for reading him has more to do with how he plays than his attitude. Just being "happy" is over-simplistic.

It's an small indicator. Onegu likes being scum and does not like being town. Him being all excited is a little bit weird if he's town.


+ Show Spoiler +
No es 100% correcto. Hay otras circunstancias y no se sirve para describirlos...ya es bastate temprano para determinar si está feliz o no.


That's not 100% correct. There are other circumstances that are not worth discussing...and it's really too early to determine if he's actually happy or not regardless.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 14:04 GMT
#195
On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 14:06 GMT
#196
On April 15 2016 23:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:00 rsoultin wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 09:36 rsoultin wrote:
##vote rsoultin

I want to be one of the cool kids, too!

Onegu and I have a one-sided rivalry. It's delicious He votes. I ignore him unless he gets good.

Onegu always votes me. GB generally tries to get my attention and get me to read him when he's town, but I don't actually think that one post is enough to townread him for. Essentially I don't think it actually has anything to do with Onegu's vote.

Lexy likes chocolate. It depends on the day for me ^^

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Me gusta ser uno de los chicos de moda también.

Onegu y yo tenemos una rivaldad unilateral. ¡Es rica! Vota. A él le ignoro a menos que se vuelve bueno.

Onegu siempre me vota. Generalmente GB atenta captar mi atención y me provoca decidir en su alineamiento cuando es del pueblo, pero de veras no pienso que es suficiente para decir: es del pueblo. Es decir que no creo que fuera una reacción al voto de Onegu.

A Lexy le gusta el chocolate. Para mí depende del día.

It's not so one-sided and you don't really seem to ignore him since apparently his antics were enough for you to make this post with a selfvote. I don't see the point of this post.
On April 15 2016 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
:/ "pueblo" doesn't really translate to English, but I think it captures the spirit of the people against the elite that is mafia!

(and yeah, hard to say before the game really gets started, but I think GB is probably town here, too. i have a pretty good record when it comes to reading him which is why his deliberately getting my attention is generally a sign that he's town)

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De veras, "pueblo" no se traduce a ninguna palabra en inglés, pero pienso que lo captura el espíritu de la gente común contra la élite que es el juego de mafia.

Y, sí, es difícil estar segura antes de que empiece el juego, pero pienso que GB es probablemente parte del pueblo, también. Tengo un buen récord de identificar su alineamiento, lo cual es porque su atento a obtener mi atencíon es generalmente un indicio que es del pueblo.

This seems extremely premature too.


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Posiblemente. ¿No es bueno que podemos cambiar nuestra opiniones? (Estaba respondiendo a los otros votos pero puedo entender la confusión


Possibly. Isn't it good that we can change our opinions?

Yes! That's really great. But why give it if you don't believe in it? Or are you posting just to post?


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No es tan fuerte pero lo creo a este punto. Obviamente es basado en sus otras entradas y no sólo en eso.


It's not strong but I believe it as of this moment. Obviously it's based on his other posts as well.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 15 2016 14:06 GMT
#197
On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

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these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.

Except I'm not questionning it on the fact that he writes big posts, I want to know why did he find GB's posts townie.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 15 2016 14:07 GMT
#198
On April 15 2016 22:16 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
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On April 15 2016 22:01 gumshoe wrote:
On April 15 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
I missed this one actually:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



On April 15 2016 11:17 gumshoe wrote:
[...]
Tentatively in the green / :

What is the deal with the smileys ? They don't make sense. Why are you not happy while finding townreads ?


They are not smileys,theyre shrugs meant to make it clear that Ultimatly I have no clue what onegu or gb or anyone for that matter day 1 are currently, as no real evidence has cropped up and I can see every reaction so far coming from town or scum, but am tentatively ruling them as town based off feel and lack of apparent malevolent intent. But Ultimatly, unless someone actually fucks up, I am liable to be wrong. TLDR the Shrug = the akndoledgment that the universe is a vast unknowable place, as well one cannot ever truly know someone face to face let alone over a forum where everyone prides themselves on lying, and lastly that day 1 mafia is hard.

But at least, Day 1 mafia is not the hardest day, in my opinion. Moreover, Day 1 is usually the best time, to linen you rod with bait and go scum fishing! They are the most slippery of these days, especially this season, as it seems.

But onto the real point to be had.

You say you have no clue upon which alignment was bestowed upon the other players, Sir Onegu/Glowingbear, yet early on, all you seem to be doing was establishing connections, like any player should do. However, this seems contradiction, when you describe the usage and the meaning of the :/.

Therefore, my question to you is simple yet complex. Currently, anyone, who demonstrates a appeal of safety and happiness, gets you love. Yet you are ready to jump when a persons slips up. Nor are you confident in even the love you give.

So my question is: What are your reads? The ones you feel confident in? And how would you jump on someone who has "fucked up"?


reads I am usually confident with come from 1: players who I have played many games with and am familiar with, example, I usually have a really good read on rayn and am able to acertain his loyalty pretty fast (the game before the last one I played I was convinced he was town accordingly with his outbursts while many were certain he was scum)

or 2: players who as the days go on seems pretty clearly town via thier voting patterns and thier actions ( again, the game before my last one is a good example, though cant remember the name, in that game there were several voting patterns that seemed silly coming from scum)

Currently neither of these 2 are present, so any town read I give is tentative. Furthermore, even if a player fits one of the criteria, I have still been dead wrong in the past (bh in that very same game) the difference is that scum have to play a really good or confusing game to meet my criteria, which is why I generally count it as reliable.

As for what I'd jump on, In the last game I played (the one we were just in, you know where I got shot for reading too much into stuff early) Kurumi (who was scum) accused me and someone who was already accusing me(sick I think) pretty much in the same post. This indicated that he was not trying to create a picture of associations in his head, but rather attacking whatever weakness he saw in order to look productive.

This is the kind of contradiction I would jump on day 1, the kind of contradiction that isn't currently present / :

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 15 2016 14:08 GMT
#199
On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.


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No es un ningun problema si Rels quiere respuestas, JAT lol.


Lol, Jat, Rels wanting answers isn't a problem.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
April 15 2016 14:09 GMT
#200
On April 15 2016 23:06 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 22:58 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 15 2016 18:52 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 08:08 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu sure likes his vt claims, but judging from these scum games they dont flow as easily when hes red.

I'm so tired of rolling town this is like 5 games in a row. I'm VT, I'm now confirmed town.

Koshi hasn't posted = confirmed scum

##Vote: Koshi
sad/elaborate.

I may or may not be blue... I may or may not be VT
neutral/coy

Just got home. Now it's naptime.

I am VT...

a bit morose.

VT Claim
plain and almost an after thought.

=======================================================

these are all the scum games where Onegu claims vt that I could find. While he can certainly use his touch stone in a melancholy fashion as town(like that one time when hf, the love of his life broke his heart), he seems to consistently dredge it up half heartededly when hes scum.

the above posts compared to this one....
VT claim

First post make it confirmed


##Vote: Rsoultin


Jeez I love when games are this easy.


show a pretty big contrast.

Unless theres some outside factor at play (something happy in his life offsetting the tension of rolling scum, or hes pushing himself a bit to be bold) I think Onegu is town based off tone / :



This is a lot of explanation for something 100% NAI. I don't think it is hard for scum!Onegu to mimic his town gimmick.
Why did you end your post with "/ :" ?

On April 15 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
On April 15 2016 11:18 gumshoe wrote:
you also get lots of points for being one of the four people currently willing to play the game.

Can you explain your reasonning ? Cause it's only a few hours after the start of the game + night time for euro, so ofc if he's there he's one of the few people playing the game, as either alignment. Plus the only serious post GB made at that point was:
On April 15 2016 10:58 GlowingBear wrote:
I'd translate it to "villa", but pueblo is fine

Gumshoe, am I mafia?

All the other is trolling, which he did as town last game but is easily replicable. I don't understand how you can have a read on him at that point.

I can see why GB would think this. But you just played a game were gumshoe made mountains out of molehills early to get the game started as town.

So ? He's going to replicate the town game he just played as scum. He could be scum going for the walls and writing a lot of BS. I want to know what check his thought process on GB.

Well, you can't go "this is really strange, how can gumshoe ever do this?!" and then say "I know he does this as town but this means he will do it as mafia also so it is scummy!".
It doesn't make sense.

Except I'm not questionning it on the fact that he writes big posts, I want to know why did he find GB's posts townie.

You are questioning him on the basis that he makes ridiculous assumptions based on very little. Which is exactly what he did as town in a game we can't really talk about.
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