EPTOn April 02 2016 14:33 ritoky wrote:
Tumblewood:
this post reads very mafia:
he comments later about not understanding why. it is because it does nothing. there's no town motivation to this post. it simply is opportunisticly pushing on a player under pressure. now i am biased cuz it was me, but essentially; you're not furthering the case on me, you're not voting on me, you're not contributing a real point of view or new information, so why make this post? what is there to contribute or gain from making this post? it has no point other than to try and get on the good side of things and ride the current.
I am on the fence on this one, it is either very mafia or complete newb:
you also didn't understand later why this post can be read mafia i think. the reason is that you're scared. townies, like take me for example, have a certain bravado or confidence about themselves. they know they are town so how could anyone possibly read them as anything but what they are? they speak their minds openly and without fear of the retribution; and when people scum read them most of the time there is a significant emotional response cuz what the fuck are these idiots doing they are obviously town. this post demonstrates that you're scared of being scum read which in essence is a scum mindset. you feel like you need excuses or people will call you scum, but that is a thought that shouldn't even be on a townie's mind.
a non-specific note: you use the word insightful a ton...and i believe english is your primary language. being redundant on explaining reads and verbage can be mafia indicative for people, not enough experience with you to make that call.
There's a lot wrong with these reads:
specifically town leans on 2 confirmed mafia, no stance on me, no town read on jat who was shitting town out of his eyes, and really weird reads on damdred and sandroba....particularly sandroba who i believe had claimed vigi at this point.....but you believed slam's claim easily? that doesn't make a ton of sense.
then when you get to your VA case you say this:
like what? there are no valid reasons to scum read you if you're town. they're all shit. that line implies there are good reasons out there to scum read you but VA just didn't pick the right ones. that might just be picking on a newb though.
dunno i have had really good newbdar recently (not saying you're new necessarily, but new to playing with me)....and it isn't blinking overwhelmingly town here like it has past. what he has going for him is that we shennanied off of him onto mafia...mind you if he is mafia that means 3 of the 4 wagons day 2 were mafia (with koshi being unknown) which is a really good thing.
dunno slight mafia lean, would think more mafia but has good vote logic going for him.
Tumblewood:
this post reads very mafia:
he comments later about not understanding why. it is because it does nothing. there's no town motivation to this post. it simply is opportunisticly pushing on a player under pressure. now i am biased cuz it was me, but essentially; you're not furthering the case on me, you're not voting on me, you're not contributing a real point of view or new information, so why make this post? what is there to contribute or gain from making this post? it has no point other than to try and get on the good side of things and ride the current.
I am on the fence on this one, it is either very mafia or complete newb:
you also didn't understand later why this post can be read mafia i think. the reason is that you're scared. townies, like take me for example, have a certain bravado or confidence about themselves. they know they are town so how could anyone possibly read them as anything but what they are? they speak their minds openly and without fear of the retribution; and when people scum read them most of the time there is a significant emotional response cuz what the fuck are these idiots doing they are obviously town. this post demonstrates that you're scared of being scum read which in essence is a scum mindset. you feel like you need excuses or people will call you scum, but that is a thought that shouldn't even be on a townie's mind.
a non-specific note: you use the word insightful a ton...and i believe english is your primary language. being redundant on explaining reads and verbage can be mafia indicative for people, not enough experience with you to make that call.
There's a lot wrong with these reads:
specifically town leans on 2 confirmed mafia, no stance on me, no town read on jat who was shitting town out of his eyes, and really weird reads on damdred and sandroba....particularly sandroba who i believe had claimed vigi at this point.....but you believed slam's claim easily? that doesn't make a ton of sense.
then when you get to your VA case you say this:
like what? there are no valid reasons to scum read you if you're town. they're all shit. that line implies there are good reasons out there to scum read you but VA just didn't pick the right ones. that might just be picking on a newb though.
dunno i have had really good newbdar recently (not saying you're new necessarily, but new to playing with me)....and it isn't blinking overwhelmingly town here like it has past. what he has going for him is that we shennanied off of him onto mafia...mind you if he is mafia that means 3 of the 4 wagons day 2 were mafia (with koshi being unknown) which is a really good thing.
dunno slight mafia lean, would think more mafia but has good vote logic going for him.
1. and 2. Both things I just thought were funny. I was not trying to apply pressure, nor was I scared (if I were scared, I would actually justify my absence).
3. Scum because bad reads? In hindsight, yeah, there were some pretty bad ones in there.
4. Here's a neat trick I learned for this one: Try to imagine what someone else might be thinking. I think that someone else could have reasonably considered some of my posts scummy. IMAGINE THAT
