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We can agree to throw shapelog out of the lynch pool and nominate him after the games over if he's mafia right?
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On April 06 2016 17:17 scott31337 wrote:
We can agree to throw shapelog out of the lynch pool and nominate him after the games over if he's mafia right?
Yes.
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OF course it is hes been defending him all game for no reason. Altho its unlikely dandred is mafia. Flip ls mafia and maybe you can consider it. I think hes mafia regardless of dandreds role tho. Dandred has a really soft spot for defending people he has close connections too I have noticed over the mafia games.
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Who here thought that the case from Shape on Kurumi was bad? When you read it. Didn't you instantly think "brilliant". Even if we all knew at that time Kurumi was likely mafia.
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On March 26 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:On March 26 2016 08:08 Damdred wrote:
Ls who are your strongest town reads? JAT, Superbia, and kuru, plus Koshi. I really hope Tina is town otherwise I will look terrible and might get lynched for defending her. Why kuru? And why so big a tr on koshi?
Hmmm
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On March 26 2016 23:36 Damdred wrote:
I've had ls as hard town since like the 8th post or something in my filter. Its pretty much spelled out every time I even mention him. Just because I want to see why he thinks what he does doesn't mean I'm scum readings him.
Yep I chose to consolidate on tube over rs even though he had one post I liked. He was on my list of lynches for today that's in my filter, if Tina is town she can be of use and I had no real reason to town read. I think a better prod at me was why I voted with people I was suspicious of and following the lynch I clearly brought suspicion against.
The lynch was largely afk, Tina was on the verge of dying for the entirety of the day with top town (by many) jat even going as far to say he might switch, if Tina is scum the scum team has little impact in the thread to drive a lynch off her. If I didn't show up the hammer probably would of went other way. So atm leaning on its t v t and mafia didn't care which one was lynched.
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Damdred's got townie points but basically he should be dead already unless he's mafia.
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Too many beers let me call it a night - see you all later
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On March 24 2016 12:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:39 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 12:38 ritoky wrote:
wow. am i the only one to roll vt? or did i overestimate palmar's laziness and he named every vt differently?
cuz currently i only have 3 people as possible vt..... @.@ gah okay now i really want to lynch you town points to anyone who sees what i see!
On March 24 2016 12:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:45 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 12:39 rsoultin wrote:On March 24 2016 12:38 ritoky wrote:
wow. am i the only one to roll vt? or did i overestimate palmar's laziness and he named every vt differently?
cuz currently i only have 3 people as possible vt..... @.@ gah okay now i really want to lynch you Why? Don't you see what he is talking about? It is kinda obvious. Even though this approach is silly since I can't imagine mafia doesn't have this information. cuz it doesn't ring genuine half the game hasn't even posted and he's already outed his "gambit", which doesn't seem to me like he was actually using it to get reads on people at all (and yes, it's stupid, but that's something else entirely lol ><)
rsoultin also knew what the expedition car was.
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So mafia knew about town role pms
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On March 24 2016 12:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!
ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><
prelim thoughts
- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai
hnnnn
ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/ Should have waited for this Would have shot this Clearly not reading. Too late though
Too late slam. Too late.
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On March 25 2016 09:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us?
Thoughts anyone? lol you're never lynching me today or ever but whatever floats your boat also, i fail to see what this "pressure" is even for it's certainly not to get me to post if it's to get me to change my mind, fat chance. i do not respond to terrorists! \o/ (you do realize that your whole "she posted a list of everyone who had posted but me" stuff is completely wrong, right? >> or did you not even bother to check your own assertion, just throwing shade where you could?) shape is prob scum actually, so there's that ^^ of all the people who jumped on me his reasons were the shittiest (lol >< path of least resistance, calling "confirmed town" rit scum, what are you, retarded?)i'm around to talk about shit but i haven't caught up yet and prob won't in the immediate future
I don't understand the bolded.
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On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.
Tubesock town hero.
Why do we always lynch a town D1 who sits on mafia? It always happens.
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On March 26 2016 00:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:58 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:44 sicklucker wrote:On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote:
quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^
and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of
- her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game)
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- she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?)
like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic
like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam
the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post
if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either
i'd prefer scum though
can we lynch rit now? :/ ALong with everything else succmmy about her I think this fake cockyness is her scum trait. Shes sort of cocky as town but in another way I think. shes stupidly confident in her reads not her being a bad lynch. I dont even know what her reads are here reading helps ^^ w/e i have a green check on ritoky + Show Spoiler + yeah you're a sucker or a scumlet, but prob just a sucker tbf ^^ we know Hmmmmm. rsoultin really hints at ritoky being mafia here. so who else is scum
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EBWOP:
On March 26 2016 00:59 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 00:58 sicklucker wrote:On March 26 2016 00:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 26 2016 00:44 sicklucker wrote:On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote:
quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^
and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of
- her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game)
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- she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?)
like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic
like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam
the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post
if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either
i'd prefer scum though
can we lynch rit now? :/ ALong with everything else succmmy about her I think this fake cockyness is her scum trait. Shes sort of cocky as town but in another way I think. shes stupidly confident in her reads not her being a bad lynch. I dont even know what her reads are here reading helps ^^ w/e i have a green check on ritoky + Show Spoiler + yeah you're a sucker or a scumlet, but prob just a sucker tbf ^^ we know so who else is scum
Hmmmmm. rsoultin really hints at ritoky being mafia here.
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On March 26 2016 01:22 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:21 sicklucker wrote:
your a filthy liar I dont remember this at all! why are you all voting boring people rit and kuru aren't boring >> they're scum you should vote kuru with me if you're too daft to vote rit
Pro reads?
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On March 26 2016 01:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2016 01:49 Koshi wrote:rsoultin look at this: On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:On March 24 2016 23:42 Superbia wrote:
What's the average mafia count in a 21 player game? Assuming there is 3rd party and stuff too (I'm assuming there is). The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias? On March 25 2016 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote:
Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town.
I don't understand this paragraph at all. Why does mafia need to follow up on this? The logical/natural thing for them to do if slam is in fact mafia is to wait and see how well it goes/if he gets away with it before acting. Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in. On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.
Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.
Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.
I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.
As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.
Ritoky probably is in fact VT.
Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there. Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker: What was good in my post you quoted? What are your scumreads and why? I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread. I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it... For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it... WOW This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT Never lynching Makes Kurumi town not? not really sure why it would?
pro reads!
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On March 28 2016 18:10 ritoky wrote:i just clicked TTs filter and it fucked my head really hard.......i think he is town? kinda?...but i don't... the main reason i don't is that he has both me and rsoul as scum which kinda feels like he is posturing to be on the right side regardless. plus his koshi and vivax reads....they are literally "ezpz town never lynch"; which i don't see for either those seem like really odd reads to be his strongest. he also thinks 2 ppl who claimed vigi are both mafia in slam and kuru; expressly wanting to lynch kuru...but not explaining how claiming a failed kp on koshi is mafia motivated. the main reason i think he is town is 2 observations: 1) in his slam read he posts about how slam was considering shooting kuru, but then trusted kuru's read on gumshoe and shot gumshoe and how that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. and 2) this post: Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 14:29 Tictock wrote:On March 28 2016 11:46 rsoultin wrote:On March 28 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I think there are three options really to how the wagons happened.
1) town vs town mafia just did whatever and are spread out and aren't very active.
2) town vs mafia. Rs is only real active mafia the others are in the dnv list.
3) town v mafia all other mafia but rs are on tube saving her.
There's lots of different scenarios but just how the thread feels it feels more like one where mafia isn't trying to disrupt the thread and cause as much chaos over a mislynch.
I could be dead wrong and probably are but it's just a feeling atm.
Ows what do you think who are scum? I can agree that these 3 scenarios are most likely, I'm also wondering if Kuru were scum if his teammates might have been pushing his voters. Though, Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi , Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Kinda looks to me like scum was piled on Tube to save Rsoul... your reads are kinda awful ^^ i mostly skimmed your post earlier, but you have rit and myself as scum together which is pretty tinfoily at best, i can forgive the ls read even if it's awful cause meh ls he's gonna get scumread whatever and kuru and i as scum together...so basically you've decided that your scum team is completely bussing one another from d1 for no good reason? explain this I didn't say you two were on a team, you were both scum leans but I'm sure not on the same team given how your going at each other. Though since this setup could be multi-faction you could both be mafia (on opposing teams) or some kinda anti-town. I'm not trying to build teams at all, just reading individuals. Also why do you give me a pass on scum-reading LS but not Rit? that bolded part...idk why but it feels really town to me...especially considering he has me leaning scum. i kinda think TT is town...but i am really hesitant about that read.
Mafia this game had really good reads.
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On March 27 2016 06:58 Kurumi wrote:Just in case So, maybe some of you aren't convinced that I am Town, but I believe that Scum have no qualms like that and I am probably going to bite the dust here. While I was wrong on both shoe and Tube, I feel that I was well-grounded on my reads, which people actually have agreed with - seeing that Tube was lynched and shoe was read two-ways based on the same point I brought up. I might've said one thing too much on top of all that, which might seal the deal even more. Anyway, this is why I am writing this post - I believe I have played a strong game and that I am now going to go down because of it. So I gotta leave you with some reads to work with. My proposed Mafia team is: Koshi
ritoky
rsoultin
Ticktock/Stutters695/Tumblewood/VayneAuthority aka lurker-class scum.Now the reasons: For Koshi they are simple and people have picked up on that. First, the list. It's utterly insignificant, unhelpful, but great to look like he is doing something. He also said something about a plan and he - as we can see in the thread, abandoned it without any word on what the plan was and how it was supposed to help Town (What we can gather, his plan was to post the list only and only that, which, as you can guess, I am not going to Town-read at all!). Koshi's played a very wishy-washy game. He voted lots (ritoky, Alakaslam, tumblewood, sandroba, Tubesock), voted lots of flimsy evidence and has defended rsoultin, while townreading people seeing her as scum. He himself admits that. It looks like a good setup to be able to back-pedal on his vote on Tube when things get heated: I was just wrong guys, like look: I was townreading the guys against her! It is especially damning that having such townreads did not make him reconsider his stance on rsoultin. One of the most damning things for me though, besides the wishy-washiness is how he has played the game during the night: this is the moment Koshi is the most active, fearless about the results of the Night kills. He is above that. No worries - Koshi is going to be here on D2! How does he know that? Well, he knows where the KP is going. He knows that KP is not heading his way, unless his team partners decide to be silly pranksters! Look how contrarian to everything he is and how little effort he puts into it: he has those reads only to sow distrust among us. ritoky: His play was questioned before. I once decided that his play was just dumb, but dumb in a Townie way. But after the D1 has ended, we saw no follow-up. No redemption. He made us look at him and then disappeared, while believing he is near confirmed town! I understand that RL reasons are there, but come on, if you plan something, you have the time. So it's a contradiction. Remember that ritoky was defended by rsoultin by the very start and many people around the time of his fuckup have come into the thread and started to throw acussations my way. RSO defends him, Koshi makes no case against him besides saying he is Mafia. The votes weren't on him, only lots of suspicion around. All he has done was to introduce chaos into the thread, his teammate rsoultin dipped too much anyway. Handling by her has been acknowledged and she was up as one of the lynch candidates. rsoultin: Her showing, especially handling the ritoky situation (hardcore defense) her absence for lots of late D1, the vote on me feels like she tried to avoid any responsibility with the lynch. She was fine with what was happening and she was the only one to vote together with Tubesock on me - but made no effort to defend him and herself from killing them. The lurkers... well... it's easier to get disinterested in a game if you are scum, because you know that it needs more effort to work out.
Another mafia who puts rsoultin and ritoky in same mafia team. And he had TT in there as well. So good.
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On March 28 2016 18:46 rsoultin wrote:
Town to Scum...think i've explained or at least talked about most of these but if i forgot i can address it after some sleep @.@
Damdred*
Jat*
LS
sandy
super
rit
koshi
ows
shape
sl*
slam
viva
tt
_________________
va
rels
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tumble
kuru
ye prob shouldn't townlean everyone there but whatevs @.@ one lynch at a time
rit so high suddenly. If rit was actually town I think he would be lower. Got to keep the misslynch alive.
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