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I don't want reasons just 2 or 3 names with an alignment next to them.
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On March 24 2016 08:30 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:20 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! Who are you agreeing with? I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol. Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:00 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote.  Beetlejuice That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton. What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here?
Explain your mindset behind this post.
- Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null.
- If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it?
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On March 24 2016 08:37 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:29 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. Beetlejuice! oks, 1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative) 2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / : 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? Do you think I'm town? Well you wanted to get the game started, which is a baseline townie mind set, casting the first vote this early when evi is pretty vague and your case is fairly shallow implies a fair share of courage, as you could easily be jumped on for a weak case this early. Which if your town you could even want as that helps you find scum potentially. You also seem to care what I think (at least seemingly) which isnt what scum trying to bury a townie early would want. From a scum perspective its a big play and heat you dont need. Your experienced so this would be borderline reckless mastery rather than blunder. Last game I was in had a spymaster but he was rather timid early and overall that case seems far less likely from a perspective of ideal play. TLDR your probs town / :
Okay. Did you reach this conclusion before you made the first post in this quote chain?
This one
+ Show Spoiler +On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. Beetlejuice! oks, 1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative) 2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / : 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays?
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On March 24 2016 08:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Superbia is super tryhard this game I think this like a first unless he did the same thing in Titanic I Had a Cunning Plan but I liking it so far although I don't agree with such a early vote.
+ Show Spoiler +Plammar wrote:
This is a hard setup. It's not forgiving for any faction. Mistakes, disinterest and general incompetence can lead to a quick victory for either side. The game might even feel unbalanced if one side screws up too hard. The game has been balanced carefully, and will be re-evaluated a few times once we have the final player count.
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On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.
I am not VT.
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On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.
What about the others?
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On March 24 2016 08:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Superbia is super tryhard this game I think this like a first unless he did the same thing in Titanic I Had a Cunning Plan but I liking it so far although I don't agree with such a early vote. + Show Spoiler +Plammar wrote:
This is a hard setup. It's not forgiving for any faction. Mistakes, disinterest and general incompetence can lead to a quick victory for either side. The game might even feel unbalanced if one side screws up too hard. The game has been balanced carefully, and will be re-evaluated a few times once we have the final player count. Okay so you want to try hard because of that?
Kinda sparked me. :D
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On March 24 2016 08:48 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:42 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:37 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:29 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. Beetlejuice! oks, 1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative) 2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / : 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? Do you think I'm town? Well you wanted to get the game started, which is a baseline townie mind set, casting the first vote this early when evi is pretty vague and your case is fairly shallow implies a fair share of courage, as you could easily be jumped on for a weak case this early. Which if your town you could even want as that helps you find scum potentially. You also seem to care what I think (at least seemingly) which isnt what scum trying to bury a townie early would want. From a scum perspective its a big play and heat you dont need. Your experienced so this would be borderline reckless mastery rather than blunder. Last game I was in had a spymaster but he was rather timid early and overall that case seems far less likely from a perspective of ideal play. TLDR your probs town / : Okay. Did you reach this conclusion before you made the first post in this quote chain? This one + Show Spoiler +On March 24 2016 08:28 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. Beetlejuice! oks, 1: I ALWAYS open up with a try hard post as town : P I read into a little a lot and a lot a ton. I can provide older posts of mine regarding this point / : (this an argument I have almost every game so its ok im used to it) and if you arent willing to consider my habits as a player, your not doing everything you can to catch scum (or blah blah omgbus as alternative) 2: You gave me a troll question and I gave you a troll answer / : 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? Not really? That post was an emotional one, not logical. I usually respond very early to insults/accusations and get caught up in them so this game I made a rule where I would wait for at least three accusations (ie beetlejuice) and in the meantime look elsewhere for clues(damdreds history in this case). That response was sort of just me chomping on the bit wanting to get mah piece out there / : I regarded you as hostile null at the time of it. Only when you asked me specifically what I imagined about you did I gather my thoughts and come to what I deemed an impartial conclusion.
I am conflicted. 3: Are you just coming after me cause your bored and feel something needs to happen cause mafia? Or do you genuinely value your own ideals of what scumminess is (ie try hard) over the reality of how each individual actually plays? is straight up thought process evaluation from the POV where I'm town.
How is this possible when you had no town read on me yet?
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On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT. I am not VT. Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb.
Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not.
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On March 24 2016 08:43 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:39 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:30 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:20 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! Who are you agreeing with? I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol. On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. On March 24 2016 08:00 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote. Beetlejuice That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton. What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here? Explain your mindset behind this post. - Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null. - If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it? It's soft defending I won't lie. In that post. I was trying to understand what made you see a troll response. I agreed with you that there is a difference, but i didn't find it quote on quote trolly. I was trying to understand your view on it. I also made it because you want to discuss things and last game i played in (Noir) Town had a shitty atmosphere.
Do you think it being trolly or not is alignment indicative for anyone in any way?
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On March 24 2016 08:52 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:On March 24 2016 08:21 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky come out of the shadows and show me your true colours. damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT. I am not VT. Why claim not VT? Seems kinda dumb. Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not. You didn't answer the question...
It's a dumb question. Here is my answer:
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On March 24 2016 08:58 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:43 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:39 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:30 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:20 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! Who are you agreeing with? I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol. On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. On March 24 2016 08:00 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote. Beetlejuice That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton. What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here? Explain your mindset behind this post. - Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null. - If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it? It's soft defending I won't lie. In that post. I was trying to understand what made you see a troll response. I agreed with you that there is a difference, but i didn't find it quote on quote trolly. I was trying to understand your view on it. I also made it because you want to discuss things and last game i played in (Noir) Town had a shitty atmosphere. Do you think it being trolly or not is alignment indicative for anyone in any way? Yes it does. Especially in your case since you are directly comparing the serious tone from Gumshow to this new "trollish" post. Unless this was a rhetorical question. I am bad at those. Why aren't you answering this clearly btw?
I didn't care for the troll part reply really. I disliked his early try-hard post so I pushed on it to see where it went. Made up the "troll" mind-set mismatch as being alignment indicative (it really is not) to give more juice to the push.
- Like SL for joining. (Good townies need to start placing down votes earlier so we can get more information when gum flips or gets checked at some point.) Actually did not get that much info from it.
- It feels kind of hard to evaluate gum's response, feels like pressuring him further will do nothing. Also I start to lose momentum when I pressure people too much because it feels like I'm being an asshole. He starts off leaning mafia for me this game.
- Dislike your soft-defense on gum. You did see through the part that was bullshit so slightly 'yay' for that, but based on the reads list you gave me you shouldn't have been questioning me like that. Rather: you should have had me at null/leaning-mafia and be evaluating me based on the "wait, that's not really trolling" or whatever part you feel is alignment indicative (this is what you're saying you're doing). But you had me as pretty much your towniest person at that point (lean-town, but whatever, pretty much everyone else was lower) even though you seemed to have doubt on my push.
So what was your town-read on me about?
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Also not liking that Kurumi post but getting late and inner fire is running out.
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I'm okay with the other posts.
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To elaborate: I disliked kurumi's opening but the follow up seems fine.
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On March 24 2016 09:23 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2016 09:12 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:58 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:53 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:43 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:39 Superbia wrote:On March 24 2016 08:30 Shapelog wrote:On March 24 2016 08:20 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early! Who are you agreeing with? I am guessing it is the guy who voted 1st on you lol. On March 24 2016 08:20 Superbia wrote:
Opens up with a try-hard post which concludes nothing (feels pressured to show towniness- mafia trait).
Then 180 switch and troll response to my pressure. Shows disingenuous state of mind. On March 24 2016 08:00 gumshoe wrote:On March 24 2016 07:59 Superbia wrote:I encourage everyone to follow my voting pattern this game. Starting with my first vote. Beetlejuice That really is not much of a troll response though. It sure is a difference in tone, but not really a troll response (at least IMO). It like he was saying dumbass but in a way that remembers Tim Burton. What strikes you (or others) heavily as trolly here? Explain your mindset behind this post. - Why do you feel a need to defend gumshoe? You have him as null. - If not defending, why did you make this post? What's the point behind it? It's soft defending I won't lie. In that post. I was trying to understand what made you see a troll response. I agreed with you that there is a difference, but i didn't find it quote on quote trolly. I was trying to understand your view on it. I also made it because you want to discuss things and last game i played in (Noir) Town had a shitty atmosphere. Do you think it being trolly or not is alignment indicative for anyone in any way? Yes it does. Especially in your case since you are directly comparing the serious tone from Gumshow to this new "trollish" post. Unless this was a rhetorical question. I am bad at those. Why aren't you answering this clearly btw? I didn't care for the troll part reply really. I disliked his early try-hard post so I pushed on it to see where it went. Made up the "troll" mind-set mismatch as being alignment indicative (it really is not) to give more juice to the push. - Like SL for joining. (Good townies need to start placing down votes earlier so we can get more information when gum flips or gets checked at some point.) Actually did not get that much info from it. - It feels kind of hard to evaluate gum's response, feels like pressuring him further will do nothing. Also I start to lose momentum when I pressure people too much because it feels like I'm being an asshole. He starts off leaning mafia for me this game. - Dislike your soft-defense on gum. You did see through the part that was bullshit so slightly 'yay' for that, but based on the reads list you gave me you shouldn't have been questioning me like that. Rather: you should have had me at null/leaning-mafia and be evaluating me based on the "wait, that's not really trolling" or whatever part you feel is alignment indicative (this is what you're saying you're doing). But you had me as pretty much your towniest person at that point (lean-town, but whatever, pretty much everyone else was lower) even though you seemed to have doubt on my push. So what was your town-read on me about? Weird that you would make up something like that IMO. Can slightly understand it thou. Let me answer your question. My town lean on you came you actually pushing the game forward. You are discussing things and pushing them, and even if i find fault in your push, at least your pushing something. Your creating a good town atmosphere, and granted somethings are off like that troll line, your still actually trying to find information. And while i disagree with some points (like the troll one) i noticed the difference as well, and understood what felt off in the 1st post. But it didn't feel right, so in a attempt to flesh out my read on gumshow and i bit on yours, i asked about it.
Meh. I really wanted to call you mafia.
Any new thoughts so far?
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On the plus side I have some decent town-leans.
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I had LS as town but looking at his filter it becomes weaker. He kind of mirrored my thought process at times? Sort of town-lean.
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Tired, so going to sleep soon.
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