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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:52 GMT
#3189
The only thing I am bothered with is that we are missing 1 kp during n1. And that is taking into account that sicklucker got shot. hmm. Strange.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:54 GMT
#3192
I got to go sleep. So much information now though. Just got to work together and lynch smart.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:02 GMT
#3199
On March 30 2016 07:58 Shapelog wrote:
Like that is 2 saves and a TOS nerf vet who if it is like TOS, has 3 vests. So you have someone who is immune till D4 if they wanted to and 2 heals/jails. that just doesn't add up.

Maybe i am over thinking this though.

I might have a couple working theories but they are terrible. Better not focus on it.

I think reading rsoultin her filter and making a list of people she spewed town or mafia is the best way to go. Compare it with TT. Compare it with voting patterns.

Should make something decent.


Now I really go to bed.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:03 GMT
#3201
On March 30 2016 08:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
here comes the fake LS baby rage he used in cell, not falling for it again

btw I am sitting here expecting great things from you. Coming in with drowing some dirt on LS is not really what I expected.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:04 GMT
#3204
I think ls is not mafia. But what do I know?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:08 GMT
#3209
On March 30 2016 08:05 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 08:03 Koshi wrote:
On March 30 2016 08:02 VayneAuthority wrote:
here comes the fake LS baby rage he used in cell, not falling for it again

btw I am sitting here expecting great things from you. Coming in with drowing some dirt on LS is not really what I expected.

you know that martyrs are my #1 hate

I don't let it go by twice

Hmm true.
But you were also wrong with your analysis on rsoultin now. I think you said something about TT and rsoultin not being mafia together.

You know I dislike it when you push mafia agenda. And you do it subtle like that. Knowing you lost your rb during the night. Directing the shot away from rsoultin.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:09 GMT
#3211
On March 30 2016 08:06 sandroba wrote:
I fucking guarantee one or both of ls and rels is mafia.

I'll read with rsoultin has to say about superbia, ls and rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:11 GMT
#3218
On March 30 2016 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:
gg I done guys.

It's ok bro. I think we have information enough to make the right decision on you. And if we are wrong it is on us.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:13 GMT
#3220
Damdred I need to know if you got a vest.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 23:13 GMT
#3221
Now I really go sleep.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:27 GMT
#3357
On March 30 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Hi, yes you spelled it out in thread pretty quick SL though not to overtly.

As for who I protected last night id rather not say yet as I know I didn't stop a shot.

It is kinda weird you didn't save Vivax. But I guess you are not mafia. Or you wont really make endgame. So. Still strange.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:33 GMT
#3358
On March 30 2016 13:14 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi,justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood
Day 1 ends in .


mafia had to save rsoul to some degree on this day; there's no way they just let a red PR go down for free on d1 when there is reasonable doubt being shown. we have 2 confirmed red and neither was a vote to save rsoul.

the living people who voted to save her are OWS, kuru, koshi, rels, LS, and damd

damd claimed doctor and since no1 else has said shit i am just assuming kurumi had shot refunded and shot rsoul. making them both extremely likely town.

that list becomes OWS, LS, rels, koshi. probably 2 mafia in that list of 4.

Hmmmm. I would say VA dares to buss but this was very nonchalant bussing. I think he would take more cred. Tumble under the non voters should also not be disregarded, even though those 2 votes on D2 on him. Meh :/. But yeah pretty insane if there is 2 mafia in ows,ls,rels and koshi because I really doubt ls is mafia, and I am preeeetttty sure I am not mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:46 GMT
#3359
Even with all this I still think superbia is just the least impactful player left. I don't know if that is normal. From reading his previous towngame he has a presence and likes to push things.

I wasn't around on the D1 lynch. How likely was it that rsoultin would die? Because Superbia was there complaining. So he was there to save rsoultin if needed, it would make him look bad, but he was there possibly because he knew his vote was on a buddy and he might need to make something happen.

But not a lot of things happened. EoD1 was like 2 pages in 2 hours?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:49 GMT
#3361
And the more I think of it the more I really have problems with the fact damdred didn't save vivax. But he is 99% confirmed town. The switch was due to him and Vivax and the kp is missing otherwise.

But who else would you protect lol. w.e

It's fine for now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:51 GMT
#3362
On March 30 2016 20:47 sandroba wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 30 2016 19:42 Rels wrote:
Sandroba I think you're town so this is a warning: don't piss me off or that will end in a shitfight. I get angry very quickly when people lie about me. You can scumread me, you cannot say lies about me. Now the first thing you need to do is providing sources for your claim that I was trying to put suspicions on you and didn't have enough balls to commit to it.

On March 26 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:
I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her.
The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia :
On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.

it's pretty simple about rsoul though:

1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.

2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.

3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.

4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles.

On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.

"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really?


Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing.
My vote stays.

You quoted a post explaining how rsoul is scum and another one explaining why LS, who rsoul townreads, might be scum. Why should rsoul read these posts and be like "I was wrong rit could be town" ?

I don't think I ever answer this and no follow up.
On March 27 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
Samdroba you came into the game late. You used the link in the op to find the day 1 post I assume ?

I answered this and no follow up.
On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do?

This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game.
He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.


You and LS tipped the scales on d1 vote tube vs rsoul. I was not particularly fond of your explanation or the timing of it.
On March 26 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 00:00 Tubesock wrote:
Gums had votes on him already and was in danger. Why would anyone need to go all super giant case on the guy with what like 36 hours left in the day? If you are looking for someone to just lynch, then sure, secure that shit right away. But if you're town, I'd think you'd want to find out more and gain truth.

The biggest thing for him being scum is this post. A lot of hours after its first reason to scumread Kurumi, tube is still stuck with the same reasonning. His scumread is not evolving with the thread.
Futhermore, there is also the fact that he is so focused on only a couple people. Plus the read switch on me. Plus the "I would have scumread gumshoe if Kurumi didn't jump on him" sentence with doens't make sense.

This reasoning seems pretty flawed, tube was arguing a point, regardless if time passes scummy shit that he thinks happened don't go away. I found this very underwhelming when comparing to your arguments last game.

Also these 2 posts have me worried
On March 26 2016 05:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 13:25 Tictock wrote:
On March 25 2016 05:44 Tictock wrote:
I'll get to reading this sometime tonight.


Yea... this isn't actually happening

scum!TT is tryhard. Of course he could change that for this game but I don't know why he would given being inactive is much more scummy than being tryhard. TT might be town

On March 29 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!

ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><

So this is her breadcrumbs to an engineer role. So it's 100% sure she has this kind of role and didn't invent in reaction to stutters flip. So she's kinda confirmed town I think

this is very believable.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 11:55 GMT
#3364
Yeah mafia TT and mafia rsoultin really loved me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 12:01 GMT
#3366
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I just don't know anymore. I haven't lynched mafia in ages. Like I can give you my ideas but I don't believe they will result in mafia lynches. It is possible. But it's a true 50/50 if I am being positive.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 12:06 GMT
#3369
On March 30 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
I feel like I said all I had to say so just one thing left:

IF I get NKd, please just read my stuff, especially about superbia, sandro and rsoultins claim. Also keep in mind the option that a Rels shape scumteam might have sacced TT to save another and get townread in the process.

Pretty much the core points, obviously Kurumi can be mafia too.

I am following this guy. Will reread his filter in 8ish hours and see what to do. Maybe and probably just sit on superbia. Will reread yesterday after flip, he looked townie but also felt like a bit off buddying and not too much solving. But there was some.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 12:38 GMT
#3375
Tumble joined on the rsoultin wagon really late D2 (looking at the vote count), was it a vote that could make him town? I'll answer myself later if nobody can find it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 30 2016 13:08 GMT
#3385
On March 30 2016 21:59 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:46 Vivax wrote:
So I'm trying to think if this rsoultin claim is legit, The one invents one receives part is really odd, and I have no idea how much role information scum got from Palmar, but I know that I'd feel really bad lynching a role that might do some good if actually town. So I'm back to the fence now that I'm not so worked up any more.

Then I remember the flavour of this game. Some guys are expedition, Kurumi is a soldier, there's an engineer... WTF is a commissar doing in the game? It's like you are in the middle of the desert like in the OP pic with soldiers, engineers and some starving dudes of an expedition and suddenly a police chief shows up "HELLO IM THE COMMISSAR WELCOME TO THE DESERT MAY I HELP YOU CALL 911" ? Nah, it's kinda an odd thing to think about but makes the sandro claim look fake lol.

LOL

It does say "contact your local authorities"
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