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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 15:56 GMT
#2927
That's an achievement.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:35 GMT
#2932
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/493411-newbie-student-mafia-xiv-firefly?user=Superbia&view=all

Got home. Read that filter. Just glaring at the post I see a shitton of aggressive in the moment wanting to solve the game posts within 30 seconds.

cba to read further.

100% mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:37 GMT
#2933
I really wonder how people like JAT just refuse to answer me yesterday when I was getting lynched and was asking about superbia.

I guess he was just praying I would die so he didn't need to comment on his scumbuddy.

Ohyeah we are going there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:38 GMT
#2934
Lynch superbia --> watch flip --> See what JAT had to say about superbia --> lynch JAT.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:42 GMT
#2935
On March 28 2016 22:12 justanothertownie wrote:
So superbia is scum for interpreting a post that mentions reason not to lynch someone as a townread. And he is also scum for trying to defend said person you have reason not to lynch.
Do you see the problem with this?

harddefending buddy
On March 28 2016 22:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 22:30 Vivax wrote:
I don't even see why I should answer this question spam, they're just a way of keeping me busy and give no useful information. If anyone else has useful questions they can be answered.But JAT and super are on the lynch list.

The important thing I gained from this is that Koshi is most likely town cause he pointed the finger at the right guys recently.

My reads obviously changed since D1 based on stuff that has been happening.
Of course I react aggressively to someone using bad and scummy reasoning to try to mislynch me, especially when it's so easy to display how superbia didn't even read up to two posts previous to that post before inventing a reason to paint me scummy.

rofl
Please go ahead - this will be entertaining.

panicking
On March 28 2016 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Btw. it is entirely possible that Vivax is intentionally trying to sound as insane as possible to imitate his tinfoil meta. It won't be very successful though because this kneejerk OMGUS is just too bad.

this argument made me puke when I read it. It was really bad. I guess JAT had to discredit Vivax and show face.

It goes on. JAT really refuses to give his opinion on Superbia but attacks people that attack Superbia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:44 GMT
#2936
Go look for a real read JAT gave on Superbia.

Then put all the times JAT refused to talk about Superbia when I brought it up. Tried to get me off him by trying to enrage me.

Then look at how JAT refused to see Vivax made 100% sense, even attacked Vivax for scumreading somebody.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:45 GMT
#2937
I am not yet saying JAT is mafia. But for sure he did some really questionable things around superbia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:50 GMT
#2938
All the post OWS made around superbia. Also the chain in which superbia attacks OWS for the constan nitpicking on him.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 25 2016 22:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 22:13 Superbia wrote:
I liked that tumble claimed scum right before the game began and then disappeared for 20 hours.


That's not really what happened and you know it.

On March 25 2016 22:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
Everyone sticks around to see their role PM if you're around at that point, and if you roll town I expect you to make a witty remark after your pre-game scum claim.


And what would you expect from him as mafia?

On March 26 2016 14:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 06:30 Superbia wrote:
Fuck I'm here. EDH took way too long.


Hm.
Hmmmm.

On March 27 2016 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2016 11:27 Koshi wrote:
oh superbia is also mafia. Damn. Maybe you aren't Damdred. I think I had you as slight townread.


Why?

QUOTE]On March 28 2016 03:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also I'm not sure where I'd put Super on that list.
Maybe I'd throw him into null or something? I'm not entirely sure where I'd put him but confirmed mafia seems like way too much.
On March 28 2016 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:26 Superbia wrote:
This is not the first time you throwing soft suspicion my way, obi. Take a stance, what do you think of Vivax's reply? What is the important part of that post for you? And what does it make Vivax? What about myself? Where do you stand on my alignment?


There's nothing soft about it - it seemed like you picked the most minuscule part of the post to comment on.


It's the most important for me.


Like, how is this possible exactly?

On March 28 2016 23:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:32 Superbia wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:26 Superbia wrote:
This is not the first time you throwing soft suspicion my way, obi. Take a stance, what do you think of Vivax's reply? What is the important part of that post for you? And what does it make Vivax? What about myself? Where do you stand on my alignment?


There's nothing soft about it - it seemed like you picked the most minuscule part of the post to comment on.


It's the most important for me.


Like, how is this possible exactly?


Because either he admits to lurking or has to explain his early (what could be considered tactical) departure from the thread. I don't want to explain how his answer would affect my read.


Fine, but I'm going to keep this in mind when he responds.

On March 29 2016 00:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:24 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 00:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 29 2016 00:03 Vivax wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On March 28 2016 23:26 Superbia wrote:
This is not the first time you throwing soft suspicion my way, obi. Take a stance, what do you think of Vivax's reply? What is the important part of that post for you? And what does it make Vivax? What about myself? Where do you stand on my alignment?


There's nothing soft about it - it seemed like you picked the most minuscule part of the post to comment on.


He also picked on the most miniscule parts of my filter to pick on, twice.


I know, he did that earlier in the game with tumble where he accused him of being scum because of pregame stuff.
It's really starting to wear on me.


Your top scum? Can't wait to see you connect these dots to my alignment.


Tumble's alignment is irrelevant wrt your method of scum reading him, ftr.

On March 29 2016 07:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also Superbia is pretty high up there in my mafia ratings atm.

[/QUOTE]
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 16:54 GMT
#2939
Pretty sure I can figure out Obi with a bit more time. He isn't top priority but he is still potential mafia.

Can't shake the feeling he did filthy things during TT lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 17:00 GMT
#2940
On March 28 2016 16:53 ritoky wrote:
bleh a claim fiesta....


On March 28 2016 17:04 ritoky wrote:
reading this phase has made me kinda remember why i stopped playing on another forum i played on. and why i don't sign up for a lot of games with tons of PRs....cuz if you roll VT i feel like the game becomes less about reading people and a battle of wits and more about evaluating PRs and their claims and its kinda meh feeling.



Complains about blue claims etc etc after his early game with the fucking car which was either:
a) good mafia play
b) terrible shit town play

But w.e. This is just hypocrisy that could maybe come from both alignments.

BUT THEN LITERALLY THE NEXT POST:

On March 28 2016 17:14 ritoky wrote:
i will be the first one to tell you rsoul that my execution of that plan was bad. the plan is good, execution bad. said it a bunch of times and have since moved on cuz if i bring it up people take that opportunity to call me an idiot and being called bad/trash/dumb gets old so i will just keep my disagreements on the matter to myself going forward.

i posted the picture -> people aren't grasping what i am doing because they scroll past the picture w/o thinking -> i make a post indicating the picture is a play -> that post was dumb and i shoulda just stayed quiet to let it develop -> the play then becomes a clusterfuck. basically it fucked up because i, as a player, am bad at staying quiet and on the sidelines when i am available to post. if that explanation doesn't reach you, that's on you cuz it is the truth.

outside of that, which i guess i can understand how my filter can be read as me utilizing my play to confirm myself rather than build something (altho i do tend to try and find ridiculous ways to confirm myself as town); no i don't understand how i can be read mafia. i have deep reads, not as much as i would like but that's due to the holiday primarily, have spent a lot of time attempting to drive the game forward or develop my reads (i mean a lot of this is at your expense so i guess you wouldn't view it as useful)....and i think some of what i have done and said i can't do as mafia....so yeah i think i am pretty blatantly town outside of the fact that i was spamming the word expedition and claiming VT and then a VT flipped as an expedition member.

Starts talking about his fucking claim thing. So at this point the hypocrisy is overloading or he is just mafia trying to find an excuse to not play the game.

You think it stops there? Think again:
On March 28 2016 17:19 ritoky wrote:
rsoul is the only person who claimed reactively or due to provocation right?

every1 else has claimed pro-actively; SL and kuru not in conjunction with a flip...that correct?

also kuru was your shot refunded after shooting koshi? that could be telling if you shot into prot or a rb because aren't rb bullets refunded generally and prot bullets not?

tries to solve rsoultin her alignment through her claim
On March 28 2016 17:43 ritoky wrote:
from the way her role reads i think the balance is in, they don't know eachother, there is no confirmation of same alignment 1 could be making items for the other and the other is red, and that 1 makes the other uses, so if 1 dies the other becomes useless-ish?

On March 28 2016 17:48 ritoky wrote:
i am trying to evaluate if it is even worth lynching rsoul today.....supposedly she has an item that has a 50% chance of turning into an action or blowing up and being useless immediately upon night phase correct?

so the options are:
1 - town -> item -> potential useful information
2 - town -> nothing -> we are at the same place tomorrow
3 - mafia -> item -> net loss, will probably say no item or lie about usage to seem more town
4 - mafia -> nothing -> we are at the same place tomorrow


ugh that's a shitty EV imo




So I don't know where the "I am not playing this game because all the claims and blueroles" came from. But he can't do anything else.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 17:01 GMT
#2941
On March 28 2016 18:10 ritoky wrote:
i just clicked TTs filter and it fucked my head really hard.......i think he is town? kinda?...but i don't...

the main reason i don't is that he has both me and rsoul as scum which kinda feels like he is posturing to be on the right side regardless. plus his koshi and vivax reads....they are literally "ezpz town never lynch"; which i don't see for either those seem like really odd reads to be his strongest. he also thinks 2 ppl who claimed vigi are both mafia in slam and kuru; expressly wanting to lynch kuru...but not explaining how claiming a failed kp on koshi is mafia motivated.

the main reason i think he is town is 2 observations: 1) in his slam read he posts about how slam was considering shooting kuru, but then trusted kuru's read on gumshoe and shot gumshoe and how that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. and 2) this post:

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 14:29 Tictock wrote:
On March 28 2016 11:46 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote:
On March 27 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I think there are three options really to how the wagons happened.

1) town vs town mafia just did whatever and are spread out and aren't very active.

2) town vs mafia. Rs is only real active mafia the others are in the dnv list.

3) town v mafia all other mafia but rs are on tube saving her.

There's lots of different scenarios but just how the thread feels it feels more like one where mafia isn't trying to disrupt the thread and cause as much chaos over a mislynch.

I could be dead wrong and probably are but it's just a feeling atm.

Ows what do you think who are scum?


I can agree that these 3 scenarios are most likely, I'm also wondering if Kuru were scum if his teammates might have been pushing his voters.

Though,
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi , Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin


Kinda looks to me like scum was piled on Tube to save Rsoul...



your reads are kinda awful ^^ i mostly skimmed your post earlier, but you have rit and myself as scum together which is pretty tinfoily at best, i can forgive the ls read even if it's awful cause meh ls he's gonna get scumread whatever

and kuru and i as scum together...so basically you've decided that your scum team is completely bussing one another from d1 for no good reason? explain this


I didn't say you two were on a team, you were both scum leans but I'm sure not on the same team given how your going at each other. Though since this setup could be multi-faction you could both be mafia (on opposing teams) or some kinda anti-town.

I'm not trying to build teams at all, just reading individuals.

Also why do you give me a pass on scum-reading LS but not Rit?


that bolded part...idk why but it feels really town to me...especially considering he has me leaning scum.

i kinda think TT is town...but i am really hesitant about that read.

potential interesting post.

Can somebody give his opinion?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 17:02 GMT
#2942
On March 28 2016 18:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
"Wake up, town" reads list
VayneAuthority - idk how anyone is TRing him. He was here for a little bit and now he'll miss all of this phase. That's NAI at best.
Kurumi - He's almost comically angry. I'm kinda just sheeping Rels on this and
Damdred - His reads are really shallow, like "LS obv town" and nothing else. His D1 scumlist also sucked-- 2 plynches, tubesock, and kurumi (the only one who even kinda goes against what people think) [and me but with a disclaimer]. ALSO one time he said there's one scum between me and Tube because of some nonexistent exchange between us. k i'm done now i swear
sandroba - Making the same reads as everyone else (when present), but for much worse reasons
ObiWanShinobi - he hasn't been present much, but I like the quality of his reads
Koshi - people are like "oh angry koshi = town koshi" but his displays of emotion so far have been utterly fakeable
Rels - he's been insightful this game and actually has original, non-obvious reads which are hard to fake when you're not looking for something
justanothertownie - I don't want to read his filter so I'm just going to say he's being aggressive and leave it at that.
ritoky - Either obv town or obv scum and I can't tell which is which
sicklucker - Doesn't he on D1 act scummy even as town? If not everyone in Devil Inside Mafia lied to me.
Alakaslam - he's a vig
Shapelog - He blends in far more than he usually does. Usually when he blends in it's because I'm ignoring all his posts, but this time it's because I don't notice it's him. Even though he has a 7-page filter, it seems he's not putting very much effort into the game.
Vivax - he's doing a pretty alright job, y'know?
rsoultin - I was really on the fence about this earlier but with Tubesock turning up town I think rsoul is also town.
LightningStrike - One time I played with someone who was obvious town in his first game. LS is playing the same way, except it's not his first game. This makes him ???
Superbia - He's attacking the game in unorthodox ways, which I think is townie, if that makes sense.


these town reads are extremely biazarre

100% mafia response.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#2943
My point on the ritoky hypocrisy is that the excuse is an easy one to make as mafia to hide the inactivity. While I believe town would just say something when the claim thingies are happening to stop it. Or live with it.
+
Talking about claims and dumb shit is easier to do as mafia to boost your postcount than actually play the game. Which he did. all the time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 17:07 GMT
#2944
anyway. eating. diablo.

flips are next.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 19:50 GMT
#2980
superbia and ritoky are mafia. That is all I know. and if ritoky isn't mafia sandroba is. And if sandroba isn't mafia I guess that rsoultin is. But it will never go so far.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 20:39 GMT
#3011
I am too tired. I hope I can sleep in 20 mins.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:13 GMT
#3096
so rsoultin was mafia. That is bad for me again. Good for town though :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:15 GMT
#3104
On March 30 2016 06:46 Vivax wrote:
I feel like I said all I had to say so just one thing left:

IF I get NKd, please just read my stuff, especially about superbia, sandro and rsoultins claim. Also keep in mind the option that a Rels shape scumteam might have sacced TT to save another and get townread in the process.

Pretty much the core points, obviously Kurumi can be mafia too.

Sheeping this guy.
And myself.

##vote superbia
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:16 GMT
#3108
On March 30 2016 06:59 Vivax wrote:
Doctor roleblocks, he doesnt heal I think

he probably rb'ed kurumi. Doesn't make kurumi mafia. Maybe.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 22:18 GMT
#3113
With rsoultin being mafia so many people become town. This is not normal.
ritoky? insane double bussing if he is mafia.
sandroba? Same shit

Nobody is left.


So we take one of the lurkers like VA and then superbia uber mafia royale.
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