Newbie Student Mafia XX - Page 4

On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing

On April 09 2016 05:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I have reconsidered it. Then you came back and posted more excuses. I have gone over your filter twice already in the past.
There is a difference between going afk to play DotA 2 2 hours before deadline or having uni. One is much more of a conscious choice than the other.

On April 09 2016 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Narrative. I switched to GB last minute when Fidei wasn't happening because I much preferred his lynch over BF.

On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring.

On April 09 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Because shit was hectic and my mind was going everywhere with all the lynches going on. I wanted to hear more from both you and RB and neither of you were there nor had a chance to be there, whereas Fidei did and elected not to. That drove me to want to lynch him.

On April 10 2016 02:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay guys, you know who we're not lynching today? Me. I'm going to make a long-ass post right the fuck now and you're all going to read it and realize how bad you were for ever even considering me as scum, after which I will slam dunk scumbear some more. If for whatever reason you don't want to lynch him we can also lynch scum bannon. To keep your interest in this post and read it all the way through, I have uploaded several entertaining images depicting emotions I expect these two fellows to have as they go through this post.

This post will contain narrative and self-meta. Deal with it.

You're mafia because you wanted people to shenanny to Fidei when you were scumreading both GB and RB!
First off, I have never* shenannied as mafia, whereas I have shenannied many times as town. I keep things simple as mafia, going for the safe plays over the fancy plays. I like to have control, not cause even more chaos like what happened. No one could've predicted what would happen at EoD and if any of the lead wagons were scum and Fidei is town, I could end up looking really bad and/or scum ends up getting lynched instead.


But GB brought up this point about how you could push him the day after if you're scum!
That is technically correct. However, it is also narrative. Another explanation is that I simply thought Fidei was the most likely to flip mafia given the fact that Fidei generally tryhards, finds out he's playing a game 2 hours before deadline and doesn't put in any effort to do anything and just starts playing dota. I found that very unlikely to come from town. Since then I have changed my opinion on him given what he's posted during the night.

Regardless, there is clear town motivation for my actions. I tried getting the person I felt was most likely to flip scum lynched. I no longer think he's the most likely person to flip scum, so I'm persuing GRB.



But why did you instantly go after GB and RB again? Clearly you're confident enough that they're scum, so why?
GB's return to the thread has been less than impressive. He's tunneling me much like he usually tunnels HF. None of his posts have followup. He said he played along with me in the start, but never followed up on it. He commented on a bunch of things people have been posting, but none of those had followups either. Calls me scum but doesn't actually substantiate it until I call him out on it and doesn't push the issue until he sees that it's gaining some momentum.

So how certain are you that GB is going to flip scum?
Roughly.. 80%? Probably around 60% for RB.

Okay, so say the EoD shenannies don't make you scum. You still did nothing on the first part of D1 leading up to deadline.
I have said in the pregame that I intend to spend less time on this game than before. I still pinged plenty of people and as many have put it, sparked discussion. Reads on DYH, Tumblewood, GB and Spikasaur that weren't posted as prolifically yet as I had as well as poking Damdred and RB. I say that given the amount of time I've put in the game I've done my fair share.

Regardless you misremembered things about EoD!
Shit was hectic and I have bad memory. I don't believe having poor memory is alignment indicative, especially when it's about things that can easily be checked. No reason to lie as either alignment.

So there's basically no good reason to scumread you whatsoever?
Yup, that's kinda what it comes down to. Y'all are jubjubs.



Can you tell us why GB and RB are scum again now?
GlowingBear, I've already mentioned a lot of reasons why he's scum. No followup on anything he's done, and lack of caring in general. He created a narrative in which the actions at EoD make sense for him as town and me as scum, when actually the scenario that would make the most sense is for me to be town as I led a lynch off of him onto someone else whom could be scum. The only townie with the information that that isn't true is Fidei himself, and the fact that GB created this narrative before considering any others suggests an agenda.

Race Bannon has contradicted himself time and time again. Firstly what Gossemerr pointed out about him believing that it was a mafia trait to hard townread CHodge only to do it himself, and his push on LS feels feigned. He doesn't dare to commit on GB because he doesn't want to scumread his scumbuddy. There are no good arguments not to vote on GB especially for him as he was on the table himself and he KNOWS he's town. The fact that he seems so disengaged on all the people that were up for lynch yesterday is concerning.

So who are we lynching?
Glowingbear today. Race Bannon tomorrow. Could be convinced of the other order as well.



*Exception being Imperial where I shenannied onto Palmar, but if I hadn't scum Marv would've likely gotten lynched. No such risk this game as proven by BF's flip.

On April 10 2016 05:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Yes and I've never made reads posts like this as town before. Oh wait.

My EoD actions make perfect sense and I explained them just there. You weren't convinced I was mafia earlier and you still had no followup back then. I responded with a gif because I had already repeated 20.000 times why I thought Fidei was mafia at the time. He had literally only made like 2-3 posts and the only thing that he said of any consequence was that he was going to play dota instead of this game right at the deadline, so of course that was the only reason. You asked a question you either already knew the answer of or haven't been reading.

Whether it's silly or not doesn't matter. I believed in it at the time. I also wasn't convinced you were mafia which you'd know if you read my post. I thought you were, and I still think you are. The reasons I've presented have increased in strength by a lot given that you've continued to do nothing useful.

On April 10 2016 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:

Maybe RB if we follow the LS rule and how he ignored talking about you.

On April 08 2016 17:39 Fidei86 wrote:
Yeah my reasons for town reading GB are seriously "eh".

I was sort of just hoping that there would be one scum between you, Damdred and GB and that you'd figure it out and tell me.

On April 10 2016 07:28 LightningStrike wrote:

If you are scum it's because you were doing more narratives than I remember you doing.