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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 13:35 GMT
#361
On March 09 2016 22:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
There is a big difference between calling people bad and using the language you are using.

I don't really enjoy taking 6 minor insults over 10 posts each time yamato or Vivax talk to me. Better just make it 10 major insults then. If we want to flame each other at least let's do it correctly.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 13:36 GMT
#362
On March 09 2016 22:35 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 22:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
There is a big difference between calling people bad and using the language you are using.

I don't really enjoy taking 6 minor insults over 10 posts each time yamato or Vivax talk to me. Better just make it 10 major insults then. If we want to flame each other at least let's do it correctly.


i dont care about insults, I want you to get into your thick skull that your reads are wrong and need to change if you actually want to win this game
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 13:38 GMT
#363
On March 09 2016 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 02:07 Koshi wrote:
Sadly I already made something and I don't want to delete it because it is pure brilliance. And because I was a bit mean to Rels last game and his VE read when I entered the thread. Therefore I will correct his yamato read and explain it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.

Unsurprisingly.

On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.

Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.

Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.

.
1) The geript read + how he involves alakaslam,shape and Vivax. It just doesn't do it for me. Why is geript mafia for wanting to lynch alakslam? Why is geript mafia for thinking shape is newb town? Why is geript mafia for saying Vivax is a dick? geript explained his Shape read pretty clearly. I don't understand where yamato his confusion comes from. I also don't understand why yamato adds his own opinion of Shape in his geript segment, but fails to explain why it makes geript mafia. The entire paragraph just doesn't make sense from town perspective who is figuring out geript. Because Yamato isn't figuring out geript at all, he is correcting/doubting things geript said and then implies geript is wrong and therefore mafia. Or at least that is how this entire segment feels like. Because he doesn't really conclude anything on geript in the end. It's an open ending that we can fill in.

2) I don't see the connection between his opening post about lynching Vivax and the follow up in the geript segment. It could be that yamato his opening post is stating/complaining about the fact Vivax is offtopic as fuck. He confronts Vivax about that later again but without trying to solve the game or do anything. It's so meek. What is this read? + Show Spoiler +
Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.


3) I get the feeling that the Kush read and the Tumble read are "correct" reads mafia gives. Simple structured reads based on TMI but throwaway. Mafia yamato knows these 2 are town and then finds a reason to call them town. It is the same for the Shape read within the geript read btw. These reads feel like coming from mafia. Or really good town being in the zone but then I wonder what the fuck the geript/vivax vomitting was all about.




I think town yamato would have approached this entirely different, a town yamato would be able to express and structure himself a lot clearer in his first read post. Figure out players individually and not inappropriate mix in geript in every read. Yamato his reads just don't seem to be coming from a townie trying to solve the game. I feel it is a mafia giving reads through discrediting somebody else his reads. I can't explain it. Just doesn't look town.

##vote Yamato

some tinfoil:
I was wondering why yamato is so focussed on geript. It doesn't feel natural yamato starts his read post by reading geript giving reads on 3 other people. Discrediting geript? Scumbuddies? Tilting geript? I don't know. Might have something to do with Slam but maybe completely not.

you imbecile. This post is horrid.

Basically how I now will answer each post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 13:39 GMT
#364
On March 09 2016 22:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 22:35 Koshi wrote:
On March 09 2016 22:30 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
There is a big difference between calling people bad and using the language you are using.

I don't really enjoy taking 6 minor insults over 10 posts each time yamato or Vivax talk to me. Better just make it 10 major insults then. If we want to flame each other at least let's do it correctly.


i dont care about insults, I want you to get into your thick skull that your reads are wrong and need to change if you actually want to win this game

On March 09 2016 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 02:07 Koshi wrote:
Sadly I already made something and I don't want to delete it because it is pure brilliance. And because I was a bit mean to Rels last game and his VE read when I entered the thread. Therefore I will correct his yamato read and explain it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.

Unsurprisingly.

On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.

Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.

Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.

.
1) The geript read + how he involves alakaslam,shape and Vivax. It just doesn't do it for me. Why is geript mafia for wanting to lynch alakslam? Why is geript mafia for thinking shape is newb town? Why is geript mafia for saying Vivax is a dick? geript explained his Shape read pretty clearly. I don't understand where yamato his confusion comes from. I also don't understand why yamato adds his own opinion of Shape in his geript segment, but fails to explain why it makes geript mafia. The entire paragraph just doesn't make sense from town perspective who is figuring out geript. Because Yamato isn't figuring out geript at all, he is correcting/doubting things geript said and then implies geript is wrong and therefore mafia. Or at least that is how this entire segment feels like. Because he doesn't really conclude anything on geript in the end. It's an open ending that we can fill in.

2) I don't see the connection between his opening post about lynching Vivax and the follow up in the geript segment. It could be that yamato his opening post is stating/complaining about the fact Vivax is offtopic as fuck. He confronts Vivax about that later again but without trying to solve the game or do anything. It's so meek. What is this read? + Show Spoiler +
Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.


3) I get the feeling that the Kush read and the Tumble read are "correct" reads mafia gives. Simple structured reads based on TMI but throwaway. Mafia yamato knows these 2 are town and then finds a reason to call them town. It is the same for the Shape read within the geript read btw. These reads feel like coming from mafia. Or really good town being in the zone but then I wonder what the fuck the geript/vivax vomitting was all about.




I think town yamato would have approached this entirely different, a town yamato would be able to express and structure himself a lot clearer in his first read post. Figure out players individually and not inappropriate mix in geript in every read. Yamato his reads just don't seem to be coming from a townie trying to solve the game. I feel it is a mafia giving reads through discrediting somebody else his reads. I can't explain it. Just doesn't look town.

##vote Yamato

some tinfoil:
I was wondering why yamato is so focussed on geript. It doesn't feel natural yamato starts his read post by reading geript giving reads on 3 other people. Discrediting geript? Scumbuddies? Tilting geript? I don't know. Might have something to do with Slam but maybe completely not.

you imbecile. This post is horrid.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 13:41 GMT
#365
but you know, the problem is, if i try to use arguments from the game you don't listen and respond something like "ez math". If I try to make you realize how unreasonable you are being, you get mad.

you complain about people not reading what you post? I also asked you how you think geript plays as mafia, you didn't answer. That's still no reason to go apeshit.

Can I actually know what would be a satisfying way for me to argue with you about the game besides "yes im mafia pls lynch me wow koshi u so good"
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 13:41 GMT
#366
On March 09 2016 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 02:07 Koshi wrote:
Sadly I already made something and I don't want to delete it because it is pure brilliance. And because I was a bit mean to Rels last game and his VE read when I entered the thread. Therefore I will correct his yamato read and explain it.

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 08 2016 16:16 yamato77 wrote:
I want to lynch Vivax.

Unsurprisingly.

On March 08 2016 16:25 yamato77 wrote:
Also, I don't understand how geript wants to lynch slam for what he's posted, nor would I give Shapelog a pass for being a noob. Shapelog's posts aren't bad necessarily, but they don't give off a newb vibe. They seem comfortable.

Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.

Kush being overly aggressive is whatever. Mild townread.

Tumble's first post is creative at least. If he's a new player I wouldn't expect that sort of effort as mafia but that's a highly conditional read.

.
1) The geript read + how he involves alakaslam,shape and Vivax. It just doesn't do it for me. Why is geript mafia for wanting to lynch alakslam? Why is geript mafia for thinking shape is newb town? Why is geript mafia for saying Vivax is a dick? geript explained his Shape read pretty clearly. I don't understand where yamato his confusion comes from. I also don't understand why yamato adds his own opinion of Shape in his geript segment, but fails to explain why it makes geript mafia. The entire paragraph just doesn't make sense from town perspective who is figuring out geript. Because Yamato isn't figuring out geript at all, he is correcting/doubting things geript said and then implies geript is wrong and therefore mafia. Or at least that is how this entire segment feels like. Because he doesn't really conclude anything on geript in the end. It's an open ending that we can fill in.

2) I don't see the connection between his opening post about lynching Vivax and the follow up in the geript segment. It could be that yamato his opening post is stating/complaining about the fact Vivax is offtopic as fuck. He confronts Vivax about that later again but without trying to solve the game or do anything. It's so meek. What is this read? + Show Spoiler +
Vivax is the much more notable poster in the first few pages IMO and it's odd that all geript has to say about it is that he's a dick. All of that said, I don't really have a scumread on geript, I just disagree with him, as I expected to.


3) I get the feeling that the Kush read and the Tumble read are "correct" reads mafia gives. Simple structured reads based on TMI but throwaway. Mafia yamato knows these 2 are town and then finds a reason to call them town. It is the same for the Shape read within the geript read btw. These reads feel like coming from mafia. Or really good town being in the zone but then I wonder what the fuck the geript/vivax vomitting was all about.




I think town yamato would have approached this entirely different, a town yamato would be able to express and structure himself a lot clearer in his first read post. Figure out players individually and not inappropriate mix in geript in every read. Yamato his reads just don't seem to be coming from a townie trying to solve the game. I feel it is a mafia giving reads through discrediting somebody else his reads. I can't explain it. Just doesn't look town.

##vote Yamato

some tinfoil:
I was wondering why yamato is so focussed on geript. It doesn't feel natural yamato starts his read post by reading geript giving reads on 3 other people. Discrediting geript? Scumbuddies? Tilting geript? I don't know. Might have something to do with Slam but maybe completely not.

you imbecile. This post is horrid.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 13:45 GMT
#367
Koshi in a nutshell.

[image loading]

I even found a picture with his role printed on the cheek.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:54 GMT
#368
On March 09 2016 21:17 Vivax wrote:
ima talk things through with competent players when they're back, I think geript might not even be wrong about Slam, but if I think thta it's not cause of the stuff he posts which requires me to sheep geripts meta reads blindly which I was slightly willing to do before he started vomiting in my face, but cause Shape rightly pointed out that slam's PoE would have looked odd, besides that he wasn't pushing it at all.

Saitama was quite better than that.


About alakaslam:
He's still null to me, and I'm not liking the points brought against him.
  • Geript - he's scum because godread
    The reasoning behind this read seems to be something between tone and lack of trolling. I think there has been a distinct change in slam's tone recently as both alignments. He seems meaner.
    The trolling thing is dumb. Slam can turn that on or off as either alignment.
  • Shape - he's scum because of he did a PoE
    Since when does a simple PoE make someone scum?
  • Vivax - he's scum because he's playing less townie comparitively to Saitama.
    He was trying to not be recognized so it's hard to compare it to that.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 13:56 GMT
#369
vivax don't aggitate the koshi. we need him or we get one less mislynch I think.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 13:59 GMT
#370
On March 09 2016 22:41 Vivax wrote:
1) but you know, the problem is, if i try to use arguments from the game you don't listen and respond something like "ez math". If I try to make you realize how unreasonable you are being, you get mad.

2) you complain about people not reading what you post? I also asked you how you think geript plays as mafia, you didn't answer. That's still no reason to go apeshit.

3) Can I actually know what would be a satisfying way for me to argue with you about the game besides "yes im mafia pls lynch me wow koshi u so good"

1) grtz on focusing on the buzzword, you imbecile, and ignore the line of reasoning I gave you before that. Trash. Learn to play. Horrid player.

2) I never complained about that. I don't see where you get this from, you blind fuck. I didn't answer because I don't know and need to check previous games to answer it, and I can't check filters at work. Terrible shit.

3) You have flamed me at least 5 times in the last hour, but have you already tried to explain once why yamato isn't mafia? Like on a normal way? Or was calling me town zero, or retarded because you and yamato can't be on the same scumteam the normal way?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2016 14:00 GMT
#371
Anyway. I am sure I was on a pretty good behavior this game. Vivax can try to spin it how he wants. I can quote posts in which he is a cancerous piece of shit. He can only make up lies.

Trash will be trash.
I had a good night of sleep.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 14:07 GMT
#372
I think we should lynch tonight. The reason being is that d1 is going to give us dimishing returns due to lack of information and lack of urgency.

It looks like the two wagons are tumble and alaka which are both good day 1 lynches. They are going to be question marks for the rest of the game anyway.

Koshi, about yamato.. I actually liked his early game a lot. He said some things I was also thinking.
Koshi, how do you feel about alaka or tumble?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 14:19 GMT
#373
koshi you really seem to have issues if you are actually this mad about so little
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 14:29 GMT
#374
On March 09 2016 15:23 Tumblewood wrote:
My preferred lynch order is Vivax (for asking questions that do not help to solve the game) --> Slam (idk, sheeping geript on this), and unless either has a defense, good night.


So he makes some easy townreads then he comes up with this gem.
He is scumreading vivax questioning him about his reads:
On March 09 2016 08:59 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2016 08:54 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:24 Vivax wrote:
On March 09 2016 08:19 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi is town 100% (okay, 90%) for his big post on yamato. If mafia were trying to get into the thread with a big read, yamato was a poor target at that point for having done little of note. Koshi showed that he was really examining the thread.
Also, his post immediately after that corrected something he said was made with the intent of informing town-- mafia would just leave it because most people would just ignore it or miss it entirely.


Step up your activity if possible or tell us why if you can't , would also be nice to know how experienced you are at mafia.

I'm particularly interested into knowing whether you think geript's reason to read you is sufficient to read you as town

I can't be active during my classes (except for some small 5-10 minute periods), which are from 8-3 PST. Wednesdays and weekends my schedule is more flexible. I also just post less than most players, usually about one page of filter per day cycle.
I have 2.5 (+1 observed) game of mafia on this site and 70 games of Town of "not even real mafia" Salem.
Geript didn't really give a reason for his read of me, so... no? What are you so interested to find out from that?


do you think geript is mafia for not really having a reason to TR you?

Would you even care if we lynched you?

To me it looks like omgus disguised under the misrepresentation of "vivax is asking too many dumb questions."

His second scumread is to sheep Geript on a read he doesn't even understand. How does he expect Alakaslam to defend himself from "you're scum because godread"?
I think town might say "until they do something townie" but tumble says he's waiting for a defense against something that can't be defended against.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 15:22 GMT
#375
im actually unvoting slam cause my current opinion is that if we lynch slam geript and tumble we win the game easily.

Since i dont see mafia being outside of these guys atm and gerupt doing a d1 insta bus is not impossible but unlikely, id rather have it my way than his, so im going to vote him or tumblewood and worry about slam later.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 15:30 GMT
#376
On March 10 2016 00:22 Vivax wrote:
im actually unvoting slam cause my current opinion is that if we lynch slam geript and tumble we win the game easily.

Since i dont see mafia being outside of these guys atm and gerupt doing a d1 insta bus is not impossible but unlikely, id rather have it my way than his, so im going to vote him or tumblewood and worry about slam later.


tumble/geript looks almost just as unlikely to me.
I wouldn't put it past experienced scum to "sheep" their teammate as kind of a tricky anti-meta thing to do, but I doubt tumble would.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 15:52 GMT
#377
yea tumble slam is also quite possible but then i have to think that geript is town and good enough to have caught scum right when he entered the thread and my ego doesn't want it to be true.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 09 2016 15:53 GMT
#378
"Vivax, you are under arrest."
"Under What charges?"
"First degree not having good reasons for what you say, ignoring all scum reads, and a misdemeanor of buddying kush."
good times for all
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
March 09 2016 15:55 GMT
#379
On March 10 2016 00:53 Tumblewood wrote:
"Vivax, you are under arrest."
"Under What charges?"
"First degree not having good reasons for what you say, ignoring all scum reads, and a misdemeanor of buddying kush."


hes my old pardner, kid. we used to play under one account together, then he said "he gayfkd" and got us banned for a pretty shit reason.
ofc he will be my bud forever.

hope i sounded noir enough
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 09 2016 16:06 GMT
#380
@Tumble
Q1:
Have you filtered Vivax? It seems to me you are scumreading not only for a bad reason (his question to you) but for a very small part of his total content.


Q2:
How did you decide you want to sheep geript on alakaslam?
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