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Fecalfeast
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February 21 2016 22:20 GMT
#45
/in I'm not going to be a good coach
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February 22 2016 16:44 GMT
#47
/out not into two games at once and i want to be a millionaire
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Last Edited: 2016-02-26 02:38:30
February 26 2016 02:38 GMT
#71
/in

since I'm dead in [active game] anyway
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February 27 2016 17:54 GMT
#94
Now taking applications for Team Prolapsed Anus
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February 28 2016 23:07 GMT
#106
You know what i want as a teamname
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 03:22 GMT
#138
On February 29 2016 12:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
1 lurker + 1 active is definitely a scum trait this game. It's a cheap way to limit information (only have one gut player to go off of) while still having the team participate and influence decisions (second player contributing by QT).

I think this guy is town
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 04:56 GMT
#145
"Team Anal Prolapse"
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February 29 2016 04:57 GMT
#146
Just so nobody has to type it out when they vote us
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 17:10 GMT
#243
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.

Wowie
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 17:11 GMT
#244
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 22:54 GMT
#402
On February 29 2016 23:34 qob wrote:
I dont like Sentinel.

I know its a newbie game but he just said some obvious stuff.
Then he was trying to be "aggressive" and vote for someone who made a passive comment to them. Lmao what a joke.

They're trying to come off as someone who is aggressive and a proactive townie. I know people vote to get the day going and shit, but his response was awkward to me and his opening comment is no way to get a game going.

If they arent scum then pls improve.

why do you keep saying you never scumread him for his jokevote when you clearly did, qob?
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Fecalfeast
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February 29 2016 23:43 GMT
#431
qob why are you being so arrogant?
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February 29 2016 23:53 GMT
#435
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
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On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 00:00 GMT
#437
On March 01 2016 08:55 Damdred wrote:
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On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced


Do you think this is coming from scum trying to get over on you FF or do you think its town? I think I know what you are going to ansewr from this though.

I'm not ready to answer that yet
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 00:18 GMT
#441
You're joking around now, right? This seems so ridiculous
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 04:16 GMT
#498
On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB.

There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF.

1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me.
2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town.

Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available.

Here is what FF said

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On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced


FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided.

So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure.


Wow this is a stretch
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 04:35 GMT
#500
Thanks
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March 01 2016 21:34 GMT
#925
I'm on page 27 catching up
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:39 GMT
#932
On March 02 2016 06:37 sandroba wrote:
I went to the trouble to read sentinel's filter again and honestly there is nothing there that makes me think he is mafia and a few things that make me think he is town. Damdy's FF theory is all fine and dandy, but honestly it is just a theory that COULD explain FF's inactivity, not a reason to vote someone Sent's vote on him wasn't oportunistic at all, he was simply aplying the metrics damdy himself told us he used to find mafia. The few posts FF does have do not look like a mafia saving face.

Cow in the other hand the few posts he does have DO look like he is trying to save face. And damdy's posts do not convince me in the slightest he is town, on the contrary, it looks to me he is trying to say the things we want to hear (his thoughts on his reads are very superfical and his reasoning is very shallow) and go for the easy target FF.

I really think we are making a mistake if we let this one slide, I don't think we can expect day 1 to get better than this.

I'm being a bad boy and refreshing the end of the thread while I read the middle. I'm excited to see more things that came out of damdred';s ass about me
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:44 GMT
#935
Guy can't afk for 10 hours on day 1 anymore? Yeesh even my partner was getting mad
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:45 GMT
#937
Wowie qob still acting like his shit doesn't stink calling everyone bad at mafia

neat
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:51 GMT
#944
On March 01 2016 23:56 marvellosity wrote:
like i just don't think this sentinel/FF thing is a gimme at all, and i kinda want to talk to sandroba about it.

FF doesn't totally struggle to post as mafia. I rather think if he felt some responsibility as mafia he would try posting a bit more. I think as town he might just do whatever the fuck he wants and come back and do things when he feels like it.

so i'm not jumping on anything.

Smartest post in the thread so far
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:53 GMT
#946
Oh hey VE we're both catching up and shitposting together. Isn't that nice?
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 21:57 GMT
#952
On March 02 2016 02:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I hate D1.

same
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:03 GMT
#954
On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
I've been reading while I do my chores around the house rip married life.

A few more thoughts,

1) If kush is scum he has pocketed me so hard. I've developed the palmar syndrome I just can't help but ignore people who have started to town read me.

* While I think my initial thought was clearly towny, I am not sure it deserves such a staunch defense especially since I've been afk. Call it a hedge if you want but I do like kush.

2) Koshi and Marv are both town I think its pretty obvious the activity the bad manners. It makes the game slightly easier that I can trust Marv and koshi I believe.

3) Sandriba/qob are town. I think the pointed posts and sand actually playing make that easy.

4) My most controversial read is I think that ve has a very high chance of flipping town. This is a tonal read, how he approached the game even if he is wrong. I do like him for town.

Since I know I'm town

Leaves me with tt, rels and ff.

I think this is a good pie place to start with, honestly I think sent and ff should be the first lynch today. The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset.

I think rels group is the second, rels scum reads don't make a lot of sense to an extent and he's not being the prescrbse that I think he would generally be.

Tt I likes several of his posts and his tone felt right to me early,

Now any questions?

Wow if you actually end up being town this game I'm gonna quote this if you ever oppose a lurker lynch again
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:04 GMT
#955
On March 02 2016 05:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 02 2016 05:48 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2016 05:45 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset.

Ok buddy you convinced me

##Vote: Team Thecownadow


I think you are on the wrong team sir.

All I'm seeing from you right now is OMGUS

His argument. I just put it into action.

Also a bit mad because I have no idea where my teammate is.

I miss when my meta as town was to basically skip d1
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:06 GMT
#956
On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote:
FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row

I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm.

Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like.

His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff.

Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it.

I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment.

Tell me, how often do my good reads and smart plays come during day 1?
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:13 GMT
#961
I'm happy with where my team's vote is and will be here until EoD if anyone would like to talk things out with me so I don't increase my 'mislynched as town' to 2
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:15 GMT
#964
On March 02 2016 07:14 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 02 2016 06:37 sandroba wrote:
I went to the trouble to read sentinel's filter again and honestly there is nothing there that makes me think he is mafia and a few things that make me think he is town. Damdy's FF theory is all fine and dandy, but honestly it is just a theory that COULD explain FF's inactivity, not a reason to vote someone Sent's vote on him wasn't oportunistic at all, he was simply aplying the metrics damdy himself told us he used to find mafia. The few posts FF does have do not look like a mafia saving face.

Cow in the other hand the few posts he does have DO look like he is trying to save face. And damdy's posts do not convince me in the slightest he is town, on the contrary, it looks to me he is trying to say the things we want to hear (his thoughts on his reads are very superfical and his reasoning is very shallow) and go for the easy target FF.

I really think we are making a mistake if we let this one slide, I don't think we can expect day 1 to get better than this.


Can you tell me what is town about Sentinel's post?

I am NOT against a TheCow lynch, but at the moment I still believe a Sentinel lynch is better. FF being here might change that.

The fact that you are basing this vote so heavily on my activity is scummy to me. Lurker lynches are heardly ever mafia lynches unless there's very strong meta to support it (marv, vivax, old kush, etc)
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:16 GMT
#966
So team omgus and team JAT wasting their votes, is that because you don't think either wagon is mafia?
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:18 GMT
#968
On March 02 2016 07:17 Felkyr wrote:
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On March 02 2016 07:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2016 07:14 Felkyr wrote:
On March 02 2016 06:37 sandroba wrote:
I went to the trouble to read sentinel's filter again and honestly there is nothing there that makes me think he is mafia and a few things that make me think he is town. Damdy's FF theory is all fine and dandy, but honestly it is just a theory that COULD explain FF's inactivity, not a reason to vote someone Sent's vote on him wasn't oportunistic at all, he was simply aplying the metrics damdy himself told us he used to find mafia. The few posts FF does have do not look like a mafia saving face.

Cow in the other hand the few posts he does have DO look like he is trying to save face. And damdy's posts do not convince me in the slightest he is town, on the contrary, it looks to me he is trying to say the things we want to hear (his thoughts on his reads are very superfical and his reasoning is very shallow) and go for the easy target FF.

I really think we are making a mistake if we let this one slide, I don't think we can expect day 1 to get better than this.


Can you tell me what is town about Sentinel's post?

I am NOT against a TheCow lynch, but at the moment I still believe a Sentinel lynch is better. FF being here might change that.

The fact that you are basing this vote so heavily on my activity is scummy to me. Lurker lynches are heardly ever mafia lynches unless there's very strong meta to support it (marv, vivax, old kush, etc)


I don't know about that. In any case, I am mainly comsidering lynching you because of Sentinel. The reason I might change is not because you are actually here, but because of the things you say while being here.

That makes more sense, I withdraw my accusation until I read your filter
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:23 GMT
#969
Seriously though I was kinda proud of only having been MLed as town one time so can we not?
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March 01 2016 22:30 GMT
#972
The main reason I think it's damdred/thecow is that damdred's reasons for scumming me are speculative and based on a meta that doesn't exist. Thecow has been ripped apart by everyone else so I won't go into detail but if the only things damdred has against me are:
1)Never answered question about qob's alignment

2) used words that imply a conclusion about someone's alignment

3) Inactive day 1

Then he's scum or playing very poorly
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March 01 2016 22:37 GMT
#974
ZZZZZZ I'd like to just be happy that the analysis of my mislynch will probably result in dead scum but I'm not. Please switch your votes
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 22:40 GMT
#975
On March 02 2016 07:37 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
The main reason I think it's damdred/thecow is that damdred's reasons for scumming me are speculative and based on a meta that doesn't exist. Thecow has been ripped apart by everyone else so I won't go into detail but if the only things damdred has against me are:
1)Never answered question about qob's alignment

2) used words that imply a conclusion about someone's alignment

3) Inactive day 1

Then he's scum or playing very poorly


Can you tell me what your stance is on the other teams? Who is mafia if not Damdred/TheCow? Who are your town-leans?

Town:
team marv
team koshi
team rels

leantown for reasons:
team VE


mafia:
team damdred


I've not been reading filters and just had 400+ posts to read since I woke up an hour and a half ago so I apologize for the short list. Also I have only a vague idea wof who is on which team so if I fucked up my b
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March 01 2016 22:49 GMT
#977
On March 02 2016 07:42 Rels wrote:
Im way too drunk to reead anything so my olast post shouldsay what i think
I trust barron to vote good

Your teammate is wasting your vote off-wagon while an innocent team walks to the chopping block
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March 01 2016 23:08 GMT
#984
"I think this is a good pie place to start with, honestly I think sent and ff should be the first lynch today. The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset."

Activity justifies a scum mindset. Not what I'd call sound logic
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March 01 2016 23:09 GMT
#986
On March 02 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Ok house to go.

I'm not green or red,

I rhyme with mooo

God I'm punny

If this is true the scum is having a great d1
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March 01 2016 23:09 GMT
#988
On March 02 2016 08:08 Damdred wrote:
I didn't want to claim but limited time and cow fucking off. Meh I'm blue so please lynch ff

"I'm blue so lynch a town instead of finding mafia"
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March 01 2016 23:10 GMT
#990
you're*
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March 01 2016 23:11 GMT
#991
For shitty reasons, I might add
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March 01 2016 23:15 GMT
#996
Damdred how come you've not replied to any of the things I've said if you think I'm scum?
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March 01 2016 23:17 GMT
#1000
On March 02 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Boss standing over shoulder all night can't type and reply very well except in bursts.

If I have to fully claim I will I just thought it better to not claim fully to give mafia better guess of setup.

I'm so upset if this is real.
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 23:19 GMT
#1003
On March 02 2016 08:17 Damdred wrote:
Also most of your things comes down discrediting me so not much to say about that? Or trying to shit on me.

Your meta read is incorrect, your main reason to scumread me is my activity and some bullshit 'slip' at the start of the game.

I imagine the reasons I want to lownlean VE are pretty scummy if we're both town
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March 01 2016 23:19 GMT
#1004
On March 02 2016 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 02 2016 08:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Boss standing over shoulder all night can't type and reply very well except in bursts.

If I have to fully claim I will I just thought it better to not claim fully to give mafia better guess of setup.

I'm so upset if this is real.

why? it's kinda best case scenario in a way. sure we lose a blue if it's real, but we also save quite a possible mislynch

Okay, if we successfully lynch a third wagon then it's fine but if I go down I will flip green which will but doubt onto damdred's claim allowing the scum to chill
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March 01 2016 23:21 GMT
#1006
Though I guess adding wifom to the scum's nightkill choice isn't terrible
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March 01 2016 23:26 GMT
#1015
funfunfunfunfunfunfun
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March 01 2016 23:27 GMT
#1018
On March 02 2016 08:27 Damdred wrote:
I hope so in this setup I'd go 1 for 1 with mafia every day all day.

Yeah that's why I believe you..........
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March 01 2016 23:31 GMT
#1023
Yeah, as I said in our QT, he shows up at deadline drunk just to say he's leaving it all up to his noob? More like he sees two town wagons and doesn't give a rat's ass who died
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March 01 2016 23:32 GMT
#1024
It's probably good that I'm under so much fire it's been a while since I had to actually worry about D1 as town
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Fecalfeast
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March 01 2016 23:33 GMT
#1026
On March 02 2016 08:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
It's not a townread, but I do believe he's drunk.

As do I
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March 01 2016 23:34 GMT
#1028
PLUS the wasted vote. Yeah it's a class act for team jat
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March 01 2016 23:36 GMT
#1030
If we want an excuse my girl came over after i was off work last night and we played borderlands as foreplay.
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March 01 2016 23:39 GMT
#1032
Can whomever is upset at Team TT give me a synopsis? We have an hour and 20
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March 01 2016 23:41 GMT
#1033
I personally don't think, drunk or sober, town!rels sees his team's vote off-wagon and still puts the confidence in his noob.
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March 01 2016 23:56 GMT
#1041
When I'm drunk I get terrible acid reflux unless I take medicine an hour beforehand


Wait that's not what we're talking about
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March 01 2016 23:58 GMT
#1047
On March 02 2016 08:57 sandroba wrote:
Honestly rels' filter looks super townie. I'd rather lynch sent and FF than him.

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March 02 2016 00:01 GMT
#1052
On March 02 2016 09:00 marvellosity wrote:
This has all gone a bit wrong. Ff making me unsure if I was right not to vote him, but I can't really explain why. Otherwise um. Only got tt's weird sand read and I'm not sure that's enough

It's probably because I called rels' team town in my shitty list like an hour ago
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March 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#1063
On March 02 2016 09:07 qob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wowie qob still acting like his shit doesn't stink calling everyone bad at mafia

neat

This is just really uncomfortable considering its coming from someone named FecalFeast, with a team name called Anal Prolapse. Degenerate leave my sight.

You can't see me you can only see pixels on a screen in the form of text that represents me
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March 02 2016 00:17 GMT
#1075
On March 02 2016 09:15 Damdred wrote:
You have to put me under town now qob

Boss is in and out, Rels is a gut reaction idk about ff another 24 hrs to figure then out if they played wouldn't be bad.

Rels was just acting strangely with how he did things, quite differently then normal. And hi a vote not really caring about the lynch is meh for Rels even if drunk.

thaank you! Rels is better than that
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March 02 2016 00:27 GMT
#1086
Some townies fit better in your pocket than on the block
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March 02 2016 00:28 GMT
#1087
So hey, guys, not to be a bother but I'd really prefer not to be lynched here
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March 02 2016 00:30 GMT
#1089
On March 02 2016 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
But its END OF DAY marv, he couldn't have known Dam would claim. Why not just let it happen? That's my point, why not just quietly let town kill him? Or better yet, cast in his lot with the others?

Why do I have to spell this out? LOL

This makes sense to me
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March 02 2016 00:32 GMT
#1092
On March 02 2016 09:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Do you really want to have to think about anal prolapse for another day?

Yeah
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March 02 2016 00:33 GMT
#1096
On March 02 2016 09:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I've got the image in my head and it's just terrible,

I'm still a 15 year old edgelord at heart
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March 02 2016 00:33 GMT
#1097
On March 02 2016 09:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 09:31 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
But its END OF DAY marv, he couldn't have known Dam would claim. Why not just let it happen? That's my point, why not just quietly let town kill him? Or better yet, cast in his lot with the others?

Why do I have to spell this out? LOL

because ff/sent are town maybe?

Are they?

ye
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March 02 2016 00:38 GMT
#1103
Can we at least all agree that the mislynch should count for the team and not the individuals that are a part of the team?
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March 02 2016 00:41 GMT
#1105
How about everyone who's here posts the reason they are voting for the team they are voting for so there is at least some info pre-flip.

Sentinel seemed more confident in rels' alignment than I was on top of the weird drunk post. From my persepctive of only having read the last 12 hours in 2 hours that team is the best shot.
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March 02 2016 00:43 GMT
#1107
Nice I'm not even slated to die anymore! We should still all talk about why we're voting who we're voting
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March 02 2016 00:52 GMT
#1122
On March 02 2016 09:51 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 09:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
marv that is a cowardly vote.

It's weird but he is possibly the only one voting scum today.

????????????????///

You don't think you're voting scum?
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March 02 2016 00:53 GMT
#1125
I'm not outraged lol

Kush actually trying as scum? I could see it
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March 02 2016 00:56 GMT
#1130
On March 02 2016 09:55 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 09:51 sandroba wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
marv that is a cowardly vote.

It's weird but he is possibly the only one voting scum today.


Nah he's wasting a vote is what he is doing. He doesn't even scumread me just didn't like that I pushed you apparently.

Is Damdred the only one here with an opinion on Rels?

Also I saw shape say you claimed blue Damdred, is that correct?

he claimed jk
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March 02 2016 00:57 GMT
#1134
On March 02 2016 09:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not outraged lol

Kush actually trying as scum? I could see it


nonsensical omgus

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March 02 2016 00:59 GMT
#1137
On March 02 2016 09:58 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
this reminds me of how you talked yourself out of that lynch in smurf mafia

Guess I'm good at avoiding lynches as both alignments
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Profile Joined January 2010
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March 02 2016 01:01 GMT
#1140
Three town wagons in one day wowie
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March 02 2016 01:03 GMT
#1144
On March 02 2016 10:02 Shapelog wrote:
Why is there a green guy who looks like a rip off Tarzen who got to mossy.

The jolly green giant?
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March 02 2016 01:03 GMT
#1145
On March 02 2016 10:02 sandroba wrote:
totally random wagon had 0 chance of success.

So did the other two unless damdred has huge balls as scum
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March 02 2016 01:04 GMT
#1148
On March 02 2016 10:03 Shapelog wrote:
Also Do you guys want me to post the reads I was working on before I got sick? things changed a course, but i was just wondering?

may as well
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March 02 2016 01:05 GMT
#1150
On March 02 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:02 Shapelog wrote:
Why is there a green guy who looks like a rip off Tarzen who got to mossy.


The Jolly Green Giant?

Clearly kus Rels was town...

Now I have to go read the pages I missed and see how that travesty of a wagon got started.

People started switching from my team to damdred's team
damdred claims he is blue
people pressured him into fully claiming
damdred claims jk
I shit a rainbow so we needed a third wagon
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March 02 2016 01:08 GMT
#1153
On March 02 2016 10:07 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:02 Shapelog wrote:
Why is there a green guy who looks like a rip off Tarzen who got to mossy.


The Jolly Green Giant?

Clearly kus Rels was town...

Now I have to go read the pages I missed and see how that travesty of a wagon got started.

People started switching from my team to damdred's team
damdred claims he is blue
people pressured him into fully claiming
damdred claims jk
I shit a rainbow so we needed a third wagon


Can you show me that rainbow?

Kus I'm looking at the pages right before EoD and you are not being towny at all, you only care about not being lynched yourself.

Is it not my duty as town to not be lynched, along with finding scum?
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March 02 2016 01:09 GMT
#1155
Well especially after causing shenanigans onto town I respect the scumfeels toward me now but I'm really just trash it seems
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March 02 2016 01:09 GMT
#1156
On March 02 2016 10:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
ff just stop talking before you convince people not to lynch you tomorrow...

If you're town I'm wondering if my green flip will make you look at your own play or if you'll just pass it off as 'ff is bad lol'
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March 02 2016 01:10 GMT
#1158
On March 02 2016 10:10 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:07 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:04 Tictock wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:02 Shapelog wrote:
Why is there a green guy who looks like a rip off Tarzen who got to mossy.


The Jolly Green Giant?

Clearly kus Rels was town...

Now I have to go read the pages I missed and see how that travesty of a wagon got started.

People started switching from my team to damdred's team
damdred claims he is blue
people pressured him into fully claiming
damdred claims jk
I shit a rainbow so we needed a third wagon


Can you show me that rainbow?

Kus I'm looking at the pages right before EoD and you are not being towny at all, you only care about not being lynched yourself.

Is it not my duty as town to not be lynched, along with finding scum?


So where were you doing that?

I wasn't, I didn't have much time coming into thread with a wagon on me and everyone mad at me for being afk.
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March 02 2016 01:12 GMT
#1159
Plus I was pretty dead set on damdred being scum so him claiming blue fucked my whole day
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March 02 2016 01:16 GMT
#1162
I had townreads, one of which I ended up voting for
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March 02 2016 01:21 GMT
#1164
For the record I will almost never spend time filter diving people instead of having conversations while people are around. Filter diving: boring. Conversation: fun
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March 02 2016 01:25 GMT
#1168
On March 02 2016 10:24 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
For the record I will almost never spend time filter diving people instead of having conversations while people are around. Filter diving: boring. Conversation: fun


Well, do you have anything of value to say?

Or do you want to imply that I'm scum more...


I hardly ever have anything of value to say
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March 02 2016 01:26 GMT
#1169
The fact that you think I'm implying you are scum is funny, though. Guilty conscience perhaps?
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March 02 2016 01:27 GMT
#1171
On March 02 2016 10:26 Shapelog wrote:
FF want to play a game?
I start a sentence and you will end it.

"When I think Koshi, I think....."

Malcolm X




also town
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March 02 2016 01:28 GMT
#1172
though I guess with the way EoD went I should save my old townreads for a look at filters
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March 02 2016 01:29 GMT
#1174
Only one word per line?
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March 02 2016 01:31 GMT
#1177
"If I had to choose between two fresh mangoes, I would whisper sweet nothings to them"
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March 02 2016 01:32 GMT
#1178
On March 02 2016 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that you think I'm implying you are scum is funny, though. Guilty conscience perhaps?


I find it hard to believe you'd be talking about anyone else in that post.

I'm only sorry that we lynched town.

Which post? The one about not wanting to read filters or the one where I called myself out for voting someone i putin a townlist?
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March 02 2016 01:36 GMT
#1180
On March 02 2016 10:34 Shapelog wrote:
I was hoping you including sticking my middle finger somewhere in that post.
As much as I would like to continue this Psych tes...... game; My headache returned so i going to lay down.


YOU CAN'T HIDE FROM ME LIGHTNING STRIKE

YOU SLIPPED UP AGAIN GIVE SHAPELOG HIS ACCOUNT BACK
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March 02 2016 20:03 GMT
#1288
ey yo still not mafia
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March 03 2016 01:01 GMT
#1306
WIFOM SHOT FOR THE AGES
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March 03 2016 01:49 GMT
#1353
I believe TT over damdred
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March 03 2016 01:52 GMT
#1357
Worst case scenario:
5-2 now
lynch incorrect jk claim
4-2
nk
3-2 lynch mafia fakeclaim
3-1
nk
2-1


IDK why mafia would cc now just to maybe achieve a final 3 situation down the line...
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March 03 2016 01:53 GMT
#1358
On March 03 2016 10:51 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2016 05:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Still a 25% chance there's a parity cop and Damdy was full of shit.

What do you mean here?

This game will use one of the following possible setups:

1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 5 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Parity Cop.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Jailkeeper.
1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Role Cop, 6 Vanilla Townies, Doctor.


25% chance there's a solo parity cop who's claim wouldn't actually tell us anything
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March 03 2016 02:34 GMT
#1390
On March 03 2016 11:20 qob wrote:
Okay so i personally think we
1. lynch cow (obv)
2. Lynch TickTock
3. If wrong Visera
4. If wrong we lose and gg

To note, i have only skimmed the thread, im not exactly sure why we didnt lynch Team Autism Prolapse, if we're going to waste lynches we should remove annoyances.

Haha wow, calls people out for racial slurs but uses autism as a derogatory term.

What a stand up fellow you are
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March 03 2016 02:37 GMT
#1392
shorter days are scum favoured always imho
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March 03 2016 02:44 GMT
#1396
On March 03 2016 11:40 sandroba wrote:
Like whoever is town out of VE / FF-Sentinel should be digging shit up like crazy no? They are in the best position ever for PoE.

Gonna do work later this dayphase, sussing out some stuff with partner so we're on the same page but I'm leaving work soon and work is usually where I can play mafia the most, ironically
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March 03 2016 02:51 GMT
#1398
Ugh I'd believe damdred if I couldn't see myself using the very same tactic (Depressed "Oh man I really fucked up this time" posts)
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March 03 2016 03:39 GMT
#1413
FUCKING DOPE
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March 03 2016 06:14 GMT
#1481
I hate early busing and if damdred and I were on a team i would be heavily against such a bus, if that means anything
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March 03 2016 21:03 GMT
#1644
what the fuck
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March 03 2016 21:05 GMT
#1645
qob btw I know you're new here but mafia can't mislynch me it's only been done once, man.
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March 04 2016 00:03 GMT
#1665
So wait is it night time or day time
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March 04 2016 00:31 GMT
#1672
Maybe I'll get domes for the wifom? Nah I'm probably the endgame mislynch shit fine I'll do work this phase
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March 04 2016 00:31 GMT
#1673
domed*
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March 04 2016 01:13 GMT
#1681
Oh right, the blues
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March 04 2016 02:25 GMT
#1682
So why doesn't everyone put which team they think is the most likely to be mafia in the thread?

Team Innocent - qob is acting like a standoffish prick this game, has been 'tunneled' if you can call it a tunnel on my team for bad reasons. He was called out for scumreading a joke post and vehemently denied that he had done such a thing rather than admit that he misunderstood the post, or simply hadn't read the list of teams. I think qob has shown that his main focus is not to find scum but to cause a disturbance in thread whenever he can.

Wow, qob, if your tactic was to make people irritated just by reading your filter it worked on me
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March 04 2016 20:06 GMT
#1775
Oh god damn it i have to do shit again?
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March 04 2016 20:10 GMT
#1776
I already lied to my buddy about putting time in once i guess today is as good a day as any. Deadline isn't today is it?
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March 04 2016 21:39 GMT
#1780
So uh

my partner got tl banned
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March 04 2016 21:40 GMT
#1781
[UoN]Sentinel was just temp banned for 1 week by KadaverBB.

That account was created on 2009-11-23 23:39:52 and had 10516 posts.

Reason: Come on, that wasn't even remotely funny.
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March 04 2016 21:43 GMT
#1782
On March 05 2016 05:05 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 05:02 GumBa wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:02 Elentos wrote:
On March 05 2016 05:01 GumBa wrote:
"First korean scalp" If it was foreign scalps getting collected there would be riots.

By god, they've turned some 2010/2011 Tasteless jokes into reality! They're literally killing the losers!

TONE DOWN THOSE KILLING JOKES THERE PLS YOUR OFFENDING ME

Snute now ahead of leukemia as the best method of taking out Violet

User was temp banned for this post.

I'm off to work now I will do things I promise
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March 04 2016 22:13 GMT
#1786
Huh, it is VE's team isn't it..

I have to redo my whole brain..
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March 04 2016 22:19 GMT
#1789
Man I don't even know anymore. Give me abit to rethink I don't want to have to read 90 pages over again
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March 04 2016 22:58 GMT
#1793
Soooo, day 1 vote analysis without quoting a bunch of shit

team scumdamdred or whatever didn't vote me until there were already 4 votes on me. About 15 minutes later, sandroba switches his team's vote from my team to team damdred.

Damdred claimed very soon after team koshi's vote on him. This, to me, makes team koshi seem even more towny to me than it already did. Team VE at this point is swapping his vote around ending up on my team before the claim.

The team JAT wagon starts with team damdred and team koshi votes right after. Team VE, though, swaps his vote from me to team JAT creating a 3-2 vote in favour of team rels.

This may seem like just a summary but it has a point.

While the vote is 3-2 between two town wagons, team sandroba moves his vote from off-wagon to my team. If sandroba knows both wagons are town why bother moving onto the one that will most likely not produce content later on, rather than lynch the team with fucking rels on it?

also, while looking for context for sandroba's switch I found this
On March 02 2016 09:15 Damdred wrote:
You have to put me under town now qob

Boss is in and out, Rels is a gut reaction idk about ff another 24 hrs to figure then out if they played wouldn't be bad.

Rels was just acting strangely with how he did things, quite differently then normal. And hi a vote not really caring about the lynch is meh for Rels even if drunk.

which suggests to me that qob and damdred are not in a QT together as thios feels like damdred trying to make sure everyone knows he shouldn't be lynched.


That being said, VE switching from me, the useless team, to rels, the team likely to produce scumhunting content and read in order to make them the majority feels really weird. Plus, when I read the end of day 1 in order, VE is really, REALLY adamant about being less scummy than rels and it just isn't sitting right with me.



Break time
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March 04 2016 23:03 GMT
#1794
Wowie I have a thing I think I can use to read damdred in later games....
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March 05 2016 01:41 GMT
#1796
Break turned into aimlessly browsing the internet for 2 hours. Classic fecalfeast amiright
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 05 2016 19:22 GMT
#1801
Still not mafia
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 05 2016 23:20 GMT
#1802
Oh well, not like i tried that hard to not lose. Sorry in advance town
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 00:09 GMT
#1803
So is it you, koshi? I'd be ok with that. If it's ve's team I'll feel bad for not pushing them hard enough
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 00:45 GMT
#1806
On March 06 2016 09:26 Koshi wrote:
Either stfu or actually do something. Nobody gives a flying fuck about you being sorry when you quite obviously aren't sorry at all.

Lol you're not my dad
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 00:47 GMT
#1807
Quite obviously you can't actually tell if I'm sorry
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 00:59 GMT
#1809
I'm sorry at my partner for talking like i was gonna do work in qt
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 01:02 GMT
#1811
Gg ve
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 06 2016 01:11 GMT
#1814
On March 06 2016 10:03 Tictock wrote:
not surprised with that snooze fest of an EoD

sorry/not sorry I went crazy on Sandroba. At least that was better than afking for 20 hours and give mafia an easy win

I tried to get something going with my shitty vca but nobody seemed to care
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