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He was wrong about Kush, I'm not disputing that. I'm not even saying that the things he said make kush mafia. If you read that page I told you to go read, you see that I even say as much TO sandroba AT THE TIME. My point is that SANDROBA as a player BELIEVES what he's saying. He physically CANNOT believe what he's saying if he's mafia man, it's impossible because he would KNOW Kush is town. Could it be fake enthusiasm and skillful post-play to make it seem like he genuinely is reading kush's filter and trying to convince me of something that he's noticed? Sure I guess, but that's simply not the vibe I got from it and I'm particularly qualified to comment on it because I was personally there active at the time. It was genuine, I could feel the lightbulbs going off.
So no, not "fuck me". You can disbelieve if you want, and I obviously can't make you make the right call. But I can implore you, and I can plead with you, and I can vote for the mafia. That's all I can do in the end.
But don't just AFK, we were given the game when Damdred modkilled himself and Kush fucked us out of it when he modkilled himself. WE GOTTA TAKE THE POWA BACK!
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Based on the fact that we can still suspect Sandroba despite effort in the game AND busing Dam/TheCow, I realized that it is totally not correct to give FF and Sent a free pass. Although they had some interactions with Dam/TheCow that would be pretty hard busing if they're both scum, besides that they have done basically nothing this game. Their filter definitely looks worse. The reasons why they are scum from D1 are still all valid, and after EOD day one, they have both gone back to doing nothing. I feel like they are riding out the ML and using other people's defense (like Shape) to quietly avoid coming into the spotlights again.
As pointed out by TT:
On March 03 2016 13:36 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:26 sandroba wrote: Yes, sent and FF are the last mafia. I'm sure of it. You could be right actually, UN is just sitting on the sidelines. Clearly reading the game yet not really doing anything. On the other hand he just pointed me in the direction of an amazing song list. It's anyone's guess.
This is important. Sent is very well aware of everything that is happening, but is currently not contributing at all. Contrariwise, both Qob and Tumble have made dumb-tells regarding the Damdred/TT claiming situation (which I agree could be fake):
+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2016 12:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 13:09 Tumblewood wrote:On March 03 2016 13:08 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 13:05 Tumblewood wrote:On March 03 2016 13:03 sandroba wrote:On March 03 2016 13:00 Tumblewood wrote: Unless you guys have an explanation that I missed really yo, don't waste your time reading team blahvacado. K nvm ignore everything I said because clearly there's no hope of identifying their alignment that's not it dude. they are the jail keeper that just cc'ed a dead mafia. oh now I feel bad for being so snarky What about this dumbtell? On March 03 2016 23:13 qob wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 23:10 Shapelog wrote:On March 03 2016 23:05 qob wrote: okay so these are my personal reads Most town to least town.
Team Innocent - Town Team Koshi™ - Town Tean xXxShapemasta420xxX - town Team official mafia gaunlet for underachieveing scum - idk Team Blahvacado - can be switched with ^ Team Anal Prolapse - remove. So the team with a JK who CCed to kill mafia is less town than Innocent, Koshi, Me, and OMGUS? Okekkkkkkkkk...... i dont know what JK means, nor do i know what okekkkkkkkk means.
Point being, Sent is here but hasn't done anything, like most of the game. Interestingly, he didn't believe TT's claim at first, and tried to propose that Damdred was a green who fakeclaimed:
On March 03 2016 10:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 10:52 Fecalfeast wrote: Worst case scenario: 5-2 now lynch incorrect jk claim 4-2 nk 3-2 lynch mafia fakeclaim 3-1 nk 2-1
IDK why mafia would cc now just to maybe achieve a final 3 situation down the line... If TT is right then the fakeclaim is a green.
On March 03 2016 11:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2016 11:06 sandroba wrote: @sentinel who do you think is mafia with team cownadow? Still have no idea if it's TT or Damdy tbh.
His second to last post is from more than 24h ago:
On March 03 2016 13:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Until then, gonna read some filters and go find a scum.
His last post:
On March 03 2016 13:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I agree with the paranoia. I don't think it's scum play. It actually reminds me a lot of yamato's town play.
So Sent doesn't think Sandroba is scum. Sent, who do you think is scum?
FF, on the other hand, also while doing not much, has very opportunistically jumped on the Sandroba wagon. His reason? Qob's filter is toxic. While I have typed the same thing in Koshi and my QT, I think this was a bit too easy.
On March 04 2016 11:25 Fecalfeast wrote: So why doesn't everyone put which team they think is the most likely to be mafia in the thread?
Team Innocent - qob is acting like a standoffish prick this game, has been 'tunneled' if you can call it a tunnel on my team for bad reasons. He was called out for scumreading a joke post and vehemently denied that he had done such a thing rather than admit that he misunderstood the post, or simply hadn't read the list of teams. I think qob has shown that his main focus is not to find scum but to cause a disturbance in thread whenever he can.
Wow, qob, if your tactic was to make people irritated just by reading your filter it worked on me
My point: if we can suspect Sandroba despite his Dam/TheCow pushing, then we can definitely suspect FF/Sent. And they don't look good.
##unvote ##vote Team Anal Prolapse
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On March 04 2016 21:42 Koshi wrote: Can you give me a real reason why sandroba is town VE? There are a couple good reasons why he is mafia in the thread.
That Kush read kinda felt like it was something sandroba had in his backpocket. It was too certain and too big to be real. But then again, I might be tunneled.
You are voting pure by PoE? Because there are a ton of reasons why fefe/sent are town. im not one to really defend others, but since sandroba is my partner, I told him i thought kush was town before he gave a read. He was susp of them before but i believe i calmed their suspicions.
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If Anal Prolapse is town im gonna kick myself for not trusting my gut.
but lets not be hasty here, im waiting for sandroba rn.
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I've actually talked to FF in the QT but I'm starting to have second thoughts about sandroba.
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Really what it comes down to is everytime I read a post by VE I think he sounds townie. Him defending me here does not mean he is auto town, because he knows I would know it's him if he said he thought I was mafia. But what it comes down to is the way he is arguing all game feels really townie and I think I'll have to go with my gut. The logic says FF/Sent are unlikely mafia, but their behavior does not. FF only ever posts anything when his ass is on the line. He just went and agreed with some case on my team, saying that qob is rash thus mafia, without even comenting on me who has been posting non stop this game and should have made my alignment very clear. Now that he sees the tides are turning Sent just pops in saying they are willing to reconsider and probably vote for VE. I don't get the same townie tone I get form VE at all when I read FF's posts. Considering you guys think it's possible somehow for me to have bussed damdred in the way it happened day 1, it should be even easier for mafia to do what Damdred and FF/Sent did to each other. I've commented on how fake sounding and shallow were the explanations they gave for voting each other and that's likely mafia's ultimate sin: when they bus they are a bit afraid of exposing their partner true colors for everyone to read. I'll go with my gut on this one and change my vote to team anal.
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More importantly I would rather lose to a VE that made me feel he is townie all game, than to an FF that I felt was scummy all game, never put any time into it, and I let slide for BS explanations.
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Nice summary/rephrasing of my post. =D
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On March 05 2016 04:28 Felkyr wrote: Nice summary/rephrasing of my post. =D Dunno if you will believe me, but I didn't even read your post.
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I see no way Felkoshi are scum. Felkyr, being a new player, is not going to have such strong reads unless they're real; if this is the product of koshi coaching, he wouldn't be teaching felkyr how to make these reads but how to pretend to be town. For me, it's between sand/qob and fefe/sent. I want to see some more development before I make a decision, but I'm very confident it's between those two teams.
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On March 05 2016 04:26 sandroba wrote: More importantly I would rather lose to a VE that made me feel he is townie all game, than to an FF that I felt was scummy all game, never put any time into it, and I let slide for BS explanations. This is not a justification. The important thing is not 'what will make you feel better if you're wrong' but 'which one is right'. And if VE has felt townie all game and fefe scummy, why are you even considering voting VE?
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I believe I explained that already Tumble. And I'm voting on the one I think is right and on the one who will make me feel better if I'm wrong. And to me it is a good justification when you aren't 100% sure.
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It would be like EXTREMELLY annoying to let town self implode and give the game away in a silver platter to team cownadow + team anal prolapse, who have both done nothing at all this game to earn it.
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Canada11355 Posts
Oh god damn it i have to do shit again?
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Canada11355 Posts
I already lied to my buddy about putting time in once i guess today is as good a day as any. Deadline isn't today is it?
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Day Three Vote Count
Team Anal Prolapse (3): Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum, Team Koshi, Team Innocent Team Innocent (1): Team Anal Prolapse, Team Koshi Team Official Mafia Gauntlet for Underachieving Scum (0): Team Innocent Team Koshi (0): Team Innocent
Currently Team Anal Prolapse is slated to be lynched.
The cycle ends on Sunday, Mar 06 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory.
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Sentinel makes a cancer joke to get banned just to avoid having to come defend himself. What a scumbag.
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Canada11355 Posts
So uh
my partner got tl banned
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