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Tictock
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On March 03 2016 15:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I hate early busing and if damdred and I were on a team i would be heavily against such a bus, if that means anything I hate that I'm leaning town on you for REALLY SHITTY REASONS... | ||
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Tictock
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How many more filters to go buddy? | ||
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Tictock
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I kinda liked messing with your head as mafia better ^.^ | ||
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Tictock
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If you can't tell I'm enjoying being confirmed though! | ||
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Tictock
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sandroba/qob As Team Innoncent Are Scum ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ndu6KkQ.jpg) Damdred played for the CC, it's very clear from the get go that he intended to do this because he and Sandroba started off the game discussing how blues should claim... Notice Damdred often posted that Blues should def go 1v1 in this setup. He is intentionally trying to get everyone into the mindset of blues claiming and CCing in a certain way. So when he fake-claimed JK there is no way his partner was not trying to set themselves up to get as much cred as possible for pushing Damdred. On March 03 2016 05:02 sandroba wrote: But really damdred/cow were supposed to be mafia instead. Look at the way Sand handled EoD after Damdred claimed, he really had no strong feelings for any wagon. Kept saying Rels looked so towny so he wouldn't vote him, Kinda bounced between My team and FF's as an alternate. It's actually weird how he keeps referencing "better vote you then Rels!" it's like he knows Rels is going to flip town but doesn't care. There is also a lot of passing off blame to his junior. "Oh I don't really know who to lynch, lets let Qob see if he's right" This stuff is what cliches it for me On March 03 2016 12:48 sandroba wrote: Of course I was begging for someone to CC. I was like 95% sure dude was mafia and you came in with the phrase "I believe damdred claimed blue is that correct?". That was the response from Sand when I accuse him of baiting a CC with this post: On March 02 2016 09:56 sandroba wrote: It is correct. If you have something to say about that now is the time. I have a real hard time believing a town!Sandroba see's me come in right before EoD posting "Oh I see Damdred claimed blue?" and his first thought being "Is this guy blue?" This is also 4min! before EoD and is clearly a TERRIBLE time for a CC. At this point any town should have been pretty certain that Damdred was JK and assumed I was just asking because I was just sitting down. But lets assume for a moment that Sandroba was still thinking Damdred was scum at EoD, why then does he take such a defensive position of Damdred when I start to question his claim D2? On March 03 2016 10:07 sandroba wrote: Well I we have no other claims we have no choice but to believe him. Maybe mafia's plan is to entice a possible parity cop into coming foward and possibly lynching team cow? On March 03 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote: Damdred isn't up for consideration, dunno why TT wrote that theory. Like IF some parity cop ends up flipping we CAN think about damdred being mafia. Otherwise treat him as confirmed. The bolded is really interesting, first off a Cop claim never weakens Damdred's JK claim and if you think about mafia's perspective right now what is the role that is in the game? Cop. No town would be thinking that a cop claiming means anything about Damdred's JK claim and this is 2 instances right off of Sand trying to influence a cop to claim so that they somehow have grounds to lynch Damdred. But look at his reactions to my CC of Damdred. On March 03 2016 10:41 sandroba wrote: Honestly TT, as much as I want to be right about Team Cownadow day 1 my first instinct is that you are the liar here. On March 03 2016 10:44 sandroba wrote: That logic is retarded. If damdred is mafia and delivering the shot we would see the exact same result as if mafia shot him. And then you would say it's 2 "confirmed town". I find it hard to believe you put this little thought into your plan. Just a moment ago Sand was totally willing to consider a Cop claim and reconsider Damdred for it, but when I CC JK Sand goes on the defensive. This is such an odd change in stance and it really looks like Sand was SURE there had to be a cop out there which only makes sense if he knew Damdred was not a JK. + Show Spoiler + Just in case that's not clear. Cop is the only role that would not think a JK role is out of place because Cop/JK is the only 2 blue setup possible. So Mafia claim JK, get no CC. They can therefor assume the only blue in the game is a Cop. Look at the way Sand reacted to the sudden Night post, no reaction to Damdred's flip he didn't try to look for new info from that like Shape did. He goes, "Oh well, ok then guess it's easy PoE into these 2 teams" and after he does all this defending from my sudden push on him he throws this out like he's suddenly figured the game out. On March 03 2016 13:15 sandroba wrote: Yes, but that even fits tbh. I'm pretty sure when they claimed JK they thought there was a extremelly high chance they would get counter claimed and lynched. Now you ask: Why would a scummer employ such a high risk tactic when they had like 3 votes on them and 3 hours to argue themselves out of the hole? The easiest explanation and the only one I can find that fits the whole picture: Because their partner was the second wagon up for lynch. Using a suicide tactic in this situation would be win-win, because in the worst case scenario would be the status quo. Throwing their vote on their partner in this situation is the most sensible thing to do, for distancing and giving them the best chance of winning the game after they get lynched. After typing all this out I'm pretty certain Team ANAL is the last mafia. It also explains why I kept getting the feeling FF was gloating the whole time, it was because they had escape a double mafia lynch intact. It all makes sense. Who's your daddy? This is flailing at best, I mean he's agreeing with a post UN made, to conclude that UN is scum? This story also makes 0 sense, because Damdred's claim would MOST likely cause the wagon on Anal Prolapse to grow, and there is no way that Damdred would survive the game after fakeclaiming. This also TOTALLY ignores that Damdred suggested lynching FF in his EoN post. It makes 0 sense for FF and Damfred to be a team, but Sand is trying to scramble kus of my push. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Sandroba is scum! - Weird convo about blues right off the bat with Damdred - Said this during night: But really damdred/cow were supposed to be mafia instead. - He was waiting for a CC right at EoD - Assumed a Cop would be claiming D2 - Thought a Cop claim was valid reason to rethink Damdred, but not my CC - Claimed he thought Damdred was 95% scum at EoD | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Still think he is prob town and VEs return to thread and reaction to Damdreds flip looks genuine. I am almost sure that FF/Sent are not mafia here kus they were too relaxed and UNs response to me pushing Sand is so freaking townie " yea he looks paranoid, prob means he's town" Meanwhile Sand throws out scum cases on FF/Sent then VE then Kush and Shape. Kush/Shape and Koshi/Felkyr are never mafia here, btw. I really think the last scum is team Innocent with a small chance of team OMGUS. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On March 04 2016 00:49 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: yeah tt i supposed it's possible. im kind of relying on old meta to town sandroba. but then again, why would sandroba AND qob push thecow/damdred so hard like that? Qob didn't as far as I recall, he was hyper focused on Sentinal. That was sandroba's reason for voting them D1, he didn't have any reads other than Damdred so kept saying "well guess we can see if my partner was right" | ||
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Tictock
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It really just looks like Tumble started reading filters and posting short conclusions about each one. The fact that he tried exta hard to read my team makes it SUPER unlikely that he is scum. He would have multiple QTs telling him that I claimed JK as scum. Yea I really doubt team OMGUS is mafia now. | ||
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Tictock
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On March 04 2016 02:40 Koshi wrote: Can somebody answer me why theCow went instantly full for Sentinel? He was scum? It could be that he was simply trying to do something similar to what qod did, they both did meta each other as town. Isn't it abit odd though that qod never interacted with Cow though? You'd think if they have experience playing together qod would have been more interested in trying to get a firm read from Cow, but instead just gave a weak meta read with some game examples. | ||
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Tictock
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Like even if it turns out I'm just crazy (which ofc I am, but I can still be right) and they flip town you guys will have another day to work this out. | ||
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Tictock
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The way he seems sure there can only be a Cop who can counter Damdreds claim then defends Damdred's claim against my mini case is really off. | ||
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Tictock
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On March 04 2016 03:13 Shapelog wrote: I am talking about his theory with Sandman suggest there is a a cop and wanted a cc blah. I was saying that from a mafia perspective, coming into D2 they would be sure that there is a cop out there. They thought therer could be no JK since no one CC'd, and the only possible role that would be possible is a cop. There is a chance we have a cop, but i kinda doubt it. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Not like. I didn't know they were town though. | ||
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Tictock
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I think that just lost us a mislynch. | ||
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Tictock
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On March 04 2016 05:55 sandroba wrote: koshi why are you angry and want to throw the game? Do you realise I was trying very hard to find the last mafia? I'm just playing the game here, it's unfortunate kush posted something he wasn't suppose to and I'm sorry if I somehow made him act recklessly. Truth is I feel like I'm the only one digging up stuff and if you guys were putting in the effort in the first place this wouldn't be so hard. This really isn't true, and you know it, plenty of people including Kush and Shape were doing more digging and making more effort to put things together than you have. You have been jumping from one team to another calling them scum for very flimsy reason, and not doing much back-checking to confirm or deny. I see no effort from you to look for which teams are town, I just see you trying to push teams as mafia. You also never even showed any signs of being happy that your D1 read on Damdred was right. It seemed like you already knew he was scum and had no reaction to his flip. You even said in the brief D2 we had that you thought he was scum, but needed to be sure. Yet when the flip came you just reacted to the fast night, not his flip. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I'm pretty sure it's Team Innocent though. | ||
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Tictock
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On March 03 2016 10:07 sandroba wrote: Well I we have no other claims we have no choice but to believe him. Maybe mafia's plan is to entice a possible parity cop into coming foward and possibly lynching team cow? On March 03 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote: Damdred isn't up for consideration, dunno why TT wrote that theory. Like IF some parity cop ends up flipping we CAN think about damdred being mafia. Otherwise treat him as confirmed. Sand was certain that there was a cop out there and trying to get them to claim so he could lynch Damdred. Only reason Town would even think of talking about a cop at that point is if they were one, and they would NEVER say that a cop claiming is grounds to reexamine Damdreds claim, kus it's totally possible town has both. Sand knew town did not kus he knew Damdred's claim was fake, thats why he kept talking about a cop. Mafia at this point in the game were dead sure that a Cop was the only role town could possibly have. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On March 03 2016 18:56 VisceraEyes wrote: LAAAAAAAAAAAWL REKTUUUUUUUUUUU On March 03 2016 18:57 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean tough break scum. These look like legit reactions. On March 03 2016 20:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh and this kinda goes without saying, but TT needs to dump everything in the thread, not just mindlessly tunnel sandroba this night. Not the sort of thing I'd expect from mafia when I'm basically just pushing a free Mislynch for him. Ok for real I have to leave. | ||
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