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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 29 2016 21:41 GMT
#362
Koshi, why broadcast obvious townreads?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 29 2016 21:58 GMT
#381
rels why are you goign into fake rayn mode?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 01:43 GMT
#450
Spikasaur do you have any suspicions? Or do you not know what to think about anything?
I'm not being sarcastic or anything with my second question btw. I'm just curious on your thoughts while marv is away.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 01:48 GMT
#452
On March 01 2016 10:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.


I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia?

Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town?

This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it:

I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town.

Mafia type play.


Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.

This is actually a really well-reasoned point.


I think it's a townie post from koshi for sure, but I don't agree with it.
Koshi, you see an agenda in that phrase but I just see marv spouting off a truism about you with no consequence attached to it.

BTW, I don't think I've ever seen you get mislynched koshi.

Disclaimer: I'm not townreading marv. I'm just defending him against koshi's specific point.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 01:56 GMT
#454
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 01:56 GMT
#455
On March 01 2016 10:54 qob wrote:
We can use racial slurs on here?
What about homophobic terms?


I said "gayfk" once and I got banned. So I suggest you don't.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 02:05 GMT
#461
On March 01 2016 11:00 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus


Is this like your post last game, where the red doesn't really mean much?

Can I assume teams not on this list either feel towny to you or are null?


Assume nothing.
The purpose of this post is so that I can quote it in post game as evidence of how awesome I am (if it's right).
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 02:08 GMT
#462
On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus

The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro....
Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck.

I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet.


I don't want to bring down the full wrath of xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx upon VE yet.
As for Rels, do you know what he looks like as scum? He is uncommonly good, I hear.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 02:11 GMT
#463
As for TT, he cannot be scum due to the gambler's fallacy.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 02:14 GMT
#466
On March 01 2016 11:11 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 11:08 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus

The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro....
Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck.

I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet.


I don't want to bring down the full wrath of xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx upon VE yet.
As for Rels, do you know what he looks like as scum? He is uncommonly good, I hear.

I can't read Rels. As scum he really looks like town. So meta is not useful.
Truly a player you need to keep till the end and then make a list on how good he was this game and if he had alot of townie strain of thoughts.


So why are you saying he's likely town then?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 02:23 GMT
#472
On March 01 2016 11:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 11:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:08 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:03 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 10:56 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
INCONSEQUENTIAL FEELS LIST

marvellosity/Spikasaur As Team Fairly Odd Couple - sus
bumatlarge/VisceraEyes As Team Official Mafia Gaunlet for Underachieving Scum - sus
Rels/Race Bannon As Team Jolly & Awesome Townies - sus

The last 2 are very likely town Kush. Come on bro....
Marv is obvious mafia. His junior is afraid as fuck.

I think you are the second mafia team. but I am not sure about that yet.


I don't want to bring down the full wrath of xXxSHAPEMASTA420xXx upon VE yet.
As for Rels, do you know what he looks like as scum? He is uncommonly good, I hear.

I can't read Rels. As scum he really looks like town. So meta is not useful.
Truly a player you need to keep till the end and then make a list on how good he was this game and if he had alot of townie strain of thoughts.


So why are you saying he's likely town then?

I really like his junior and I think Rels is more likely being horrible town atm than bullshitting mafia.


So you really like this one post?
On March 01 2016 04:05 Race Bannon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 03:10 Felkyr wrote:.
I didn't like his rant against Marv either but I don't think it's AI.


It's definitely AI.
However at this juncture I wouldn't know how to argue in favor of it being AI here specifically, nor how to follow through with the actual reduction process.

Your determination to declare it otherwise seems out of place notwithstanding, so help me understand how something that's either faked by mafia or real when a townie does it is not AI.




Basically all he's doing is arguing over the semantics of "alignment indicative." I think.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 03:07 GMT
#485
On March 01 2016 11:23 qob wrote:
I think Rels is townish.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 01 2016 05:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 01:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 01:43 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
VE, meta is worth a lot more if you were actually playing in the game. TT is tryhard scum.
Why are you ignoring the fact that it was in the joke phase?

I take "joke phase" on a player by player basis, and from my experience with him TT never ever jokes in the beginning as town, he always tryhards at the beginning. That's why I ignored it, because for TT from my experience, there's no such thing as a joke phase.

"TT never jokes as town usually but does in thius game, points at him being scum"
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:11 Rels wrote:
So you didn't read this one then.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/490503-newbie-student-mafia-xiii?user=Tictock

"Look you're wrong he has done that before as town!"
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 01 2016 05:26 Rels wrote:
You're not re evaluating you reasons based on what's happening
You're very probably scum

NOTHING HAS HAPPENED FOR ME TO REEVALUATE! THE ONLY THIN G THAT HAS HAPPENED HAS YOU AND SAND HAVE COME IN HERE AND SHIT ON MY READ, HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MY READ TO FUCKING CHANGE! YOU'RE MAKING SHIT UP!

"NO nothing has changed in my read!!!!!!"

Scum.


is the only thing im really curious about, everything else gives me a town vibe though.
It just seems awkward to me, the one line responses i can understand for a time like that however.

The main thing that peaks my interest is that he feels the need to reinstate "scum" at the bottom of his post.

@Rels, if you can understand my convoluted sentences, answer me this, why did you feel the need to restate "scum" at the bottom of your post?


Now, im still pretty dead set on Team Anal or Whatever, and im starting to gain suspicion on cow and damdred, my partner made me look into them more. I dont think cow is acting too different for what he normally does but its mainly damdreds responses to FF (page one of his iso.)


this thing about rels restating scum at the end of his post might be the worst reason to suspect someone that ive ever seen
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 03:11 GMT
#489
On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote:
Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB.

There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF.

1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me.
2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town.

Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available.

Here is what FF said

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:50 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob why are you being so arrogant?

For a player of my stature im being quite humble.

I mean, i have found scum, why would i not try to expose them? Please, this is Mafia 101 my friend.

Except you have not found scum so your arrogance is misplaced


FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided.

So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure.



This point is kind of scumslip like. My problem with this is experiential rather than theoretical. I've scumread people who have said stuff like this in the same paragraph as nullreading someone, and they turned out to be town. So I don't think it means he actually has a townread on quob.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 03:12 GMT
#490
I apologize for the white knight but I felt compelled to share my thoughts.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 03:32 GMT
#493
On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through.

Why?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 03:33 GMT
#494
On March 01 2016 12:18 Koshi wrote:
How is that vote on marv coming along?

Me? Why? He's just one of 3 shit reads.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 04:04 GMT
#496
On March 01 2016 12:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 12:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On March 01 2016 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
Kush is probably scum if he doesn't hard call my team scum before this day is through.

Why?

He's talking about you hinting at getting me lynched, not realizing that it had little to do with you thinking I'm mafia and everything to do with the sexual pleasure you would derive from such an act.


Oh right. The wrath brought down upon you thing. I was just saying I don't want to share my reasoning for scumreading you yet so that I can gather more evidence from your content to confirm or deny it.

I'll try to decide who I want to lynch tomorrow.
EoD is actually closer than I realized. There are no real wagons yet either. I would like to read some filters and place a preliminary vote now but I have to go to bed.

And yes VE, the sexual pleasure I would derive from leading a lynch on you, ignoring your all-capitalized protests, is indescribable.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 11:28 GMT
#550
Marv why is koshi mafia rather than simply wrong here.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 11:31 GMT
#553
Spikasaur do you agree with Marv about koshi being mafia or is he misguided town?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
March 01 2016 13:46 GMT
#638
damdred/thecow
thecow is being tight-lipped for the most part.
I checked this out:
On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote:
#243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read.

He's talking about these quotes:
On March 01 2016 02:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
qob is new but trying hard to throw scum on my partner because he was aggresive and voted me.

Wowie

On March 01 2016 02:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like that you're trying qob but you're off to a bad start

I think it's a smart way to describe what FF is doing.

As for damdred, he's reading the thread closely so that gives him townpoints.

Verdict: town enough
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