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Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:46 GMT
#564
On March 01 2016 20:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Spikasaur do you agree with Marv about koshi being mafia or is he misguided town?


I don't really know what Marv thinks anymore, but I think he could be mafia. Desperately trying to get us read as mafia but with no real argument?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:48 GMT
#565
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 11:55 GMT
#570
On March 01 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 20:48 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:29 Koshi wrote:
This is what happened at the Faerie House.

Spikasaur: OMG marv my darling, this brilliant player named Koshi from the Team Koshi is on to us. O Lord. What shall we do?
marvellosity: Darling don't worry your pretty head. Even though Koshi is a brilliant player, we got to discredit him. Just call him bad. Just type some random stuff. Just try not to scumclaim.
Spikasaur: Ok I will try.
*5 seconds later*
Spikasaur: Woops, I think I scumslipped.
marvellosity: It's ok my darling, I got this covered, I am going to call him mafia.
Spikasaur: But what should I do darling? I have done what you asked and popped in 10 pages to show activity. But this brilliant and extremely talented Koshi always asks me these hard questions though, I don't know how to answer them.
marvellosity: just type random things sweetie, and try to brush off that scumslip like it was nothing. Act dumb. I am going to read the game and call some obvious townies town to try to get them on my good side.


***To be continued***


Speaking with Marv, apparently you're always a cunt when you play as town, because you're too pussy to be one when mafia. I guess this could further that.

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On March 01 2016 20:46 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 01 2016 20:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Spikasaur do you agree with Marv about koshi being mafia or is he misguided town?


I don't really know what Marv thinks anymore, but I think he could be mafia. Desperately trying to get us read as mafia but with no real argument?

So in the 5 seconds between these 2 posts I went from mafia to meta town without talking to marv while talking to marv?


Speaking bout how you played before, before we got to how you're playing now. We're smooth now. I admit I was getting confused about some things.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 14:59 GMT
#717
On March 01 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:01 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:57 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:46 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:36 Rels wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:28 qob wrote:
On March 01 2016 22:09 Rels wrote:
qob why do you think marv is scum ?

My partner and my town reads suspect him. I personally havent been focusing on him too much.

However after watching him vs. Koshi it was one sided and clear.

Why do you partner scumread him ?
Why was him vs Koshi one sided and clear ? What Koshi arguments do you think are good ?

I will let my partner speak for themself.

Koshi absolutely blew him the fuck out, it was hilarious tbh but i dont want to be a dickrider.
Koshi made him stumble over himself. There was no one part i thought was good, i was clear to me that Koshi had the upperhand, in a sense.

Do you think Koshi is scum Rels? Also where is Bannon?

tell me exactly where i stumbled. or i might just policy vote you for talking gibberish.


On March 01 2016 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:05 Tictock wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On March 01 2016 08:01 Koshi wrote:
Ok maybe VE is mafia after all. I'll reconsider.

For the record. I still firmly believe he is most likely town.

Mafia is still marv.


I know you said it's hard to explain, but why is Marv mafia?

Kus he said you'd do stuff if you are town?

This is how I could explain it, it's not really good explained but that's kinda it:

I think marv is mafia because he is hedging. The post I quoted for instance, he knows I am an easy misslynch atm, he knows Rels is pushing me, so when Sentinel says I am town, he just discredits me by saying "I am obvious town when I am town" which is perfect because when I am obvious town he can just decide to ignore me as mafia. And when I am not being obvious town he just planted this little seed in the head of a person who has me as town.

Mafia type play.


Normally marv uses that sentence in a totally other context. It is just bad here. He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds. Nowhere in marv his filter he has me as mafia. He is just suggesting it very shadowly. Which is very unlike marv.

All this is wrong. To the bolded. I am so hedgey when I am town I make posts such as these:
On February 06 2015 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
[image loading]

Like, I literally post hedges.

Koshi *is* obvious town when he is town. I ended up scumreading him last time we played together because he looked kinda townie but he wasn't "obvious" town. He was mafia. It was a correct heuristic. It will continue to be a correct heuristic.
He didn't help anybody writing that down. Just like he didn't help anybody writing down those 3 quotes from a game in which I was mafia. He is just planting seeds.

Bad. I play little games all the time as town. I love little games. I have incredibly fond memories of playing games with Palmar in Rock Band where I kept quoting things from previous games with "town or mafia?".

Bet you can't find me doing this as mafia. I can provide examples as town. Koshi should know this.

The point, which was obvious, was that Sentinel was making a poor meta read and I was correcting him on it. And Sentinel admitted himself, replying to my post, that it was incorrect. So I made him rescind his incorrect read. How is this bad?

Everything Koshi writes here is wrong. *and he should know it is all wrong*. So why is he writing it?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/504019-team-melee-mini-mafia-vi-newbies-and-vets?user=marvellosity&page=2

Clearly you were flustered. This is no gibberish, its just facts.

You're scum, arent you?

Sure, until you realized that Marv for the most part did not do anything rashed.
Also I do not think Koshi had the upper hand if he had to call upon divine powers and one liners.

Can you tell me why Spike is town? The only thing he did is discredit me together with marv. What is the townie mindset there? You do realize that guy is actively following the thread right?

It is obvious mafia focussing on not getting lynched. Wouldn't town at least try to get a freaking scumread? You do realize that when he came into the thread before the last time he was completely 100% neutral towards me, even though I was already scumreading him and marv then.

Next time he scumreads me and discredits me. While marv does the same not bothering to read the thread. 5 mins later marv read the thread and already flipped his read and had me as town. While Spike was still happy to call me mafia for dnu what reasons tbh.

You got to know this spike got literally 0 reasons to call me mafia except the fact that I called them mafia. And he doesn't even know why that exactly makes me mafia. The reasons why marv called me mafia cannot be why spike called me mafia. He doesn't know the meta on marv and why everything I wrote was "bullshit" (it wasn't)

So why is he calling me mafia? Because marv told him to discredit me because that is what mafia needs to do. It is quite obvious this Spike guy is really new to the game and is just doing what marv tells him to do but he does it rather badly because he doesn't understand what he should really do.


Blah de blah de blah my issue was at first that I thought it was really suspicious that someone start pressing and attacking someone based on no real evidence. Poking a stick out at someone relentlessly, I had assumed in naivety that would have been a very mafia thing to do. Since talking it out with marv, I've learned that you're just a cock when you have innocence as your backbone. My view of you is no longer and hasn't been scum for a while.

Also worth noting I'm not actually all that actively following thread. I try to but I've still got a life to lead outside.

On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.


You did? I may have missed it.

On March 01 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.

and if he was mafia i could manufacture anything for him.

maybe he's struggling and i'm a terrible teacher. your logic is poor.

he seemed to agree with me that Cow/Damdred were suspicious but he couldn't articulate why very well except for using the phrase "inconsequential wank" about Damdred's filter.


Ah yeah, then I went for lunch and lost it in amongst a billion tabs, so probably closed it by accident.. So shoot me.

On March 01 2016 23:23 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 23:19 marvellosity wrote:
On March 01 2016 23:16 Koshi wrote:
I already threw some bait towards spike 20 hours ago to see if they were solving the game or did anything at all. But he is not doing anything. Dnu. Pretty sure if he was town he would at least attempt to do something.

and if he was mafia i could manufacture anything for him.

maybe he's struggling and i'm a terrible teacher. your logic is poor.

he seemed to agree with me that Cow/Damdred were suspicious but he couldn't articulate why very well except for using the phrase "inconsequential wank" about Damdred's filter.

Sure MAYBE. Nothing is 100% set in stone.

But the guy did FUCKING NOTHING. I am calling you 2 mafia 24/7 and he comes in here and makes 2 neutral comments. Doesn't attempt to do anything.

Then he reads another post of mine in which I call you mafia and FOR SOME FUCKING REASON WITHOUT READING ANYTHING YOUR FUCKING ADVICE TO HIM IS:

DESTROY KOSHI, DESTROY AND DESCREDIT HIM. DON'T TALK TO ME ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU READ. DESTROY KOSHI. KILL KOSHI. DON'T TALK ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE.


Come on marv. Come on. That is everything you got the poor guy to offer? I actually gave my full view on the game to my junior. I actually don't talk about the read on you in my QT. We discuss what the solution is if you are not mafia.


Marv and I really got off to a bad start, for which he's apologised and made right.

On March 01 2016 23:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@koshi try to empathize with a hypothetically town spikasaur. It's his first game. He did not find this game on his own and therefore had no natural interest in it like most newbs.
It makes sense that he doesn't have reads.


First mafia game, and also new to TL. I grew interest in this thing from shoulder watching on marv. I've been pretty used to just taking a back seat and observing more than playing. Marv was telling me to find inconsistent posts or things that seemed off, but I've been struggling.

On March 01 2016 23:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 01 2016 23:28 Koshi wrote:
It took marv 5 minutes to read the thread and see I am town. Which is solving the game. Yet he taught his junior to make 85% of his filter to descredit me and not solve the game?

yes, he thinks you're an arse for attacking us based on shitty reasons.

imo very townie. my bf is the towniest of all townies. koshi2loser.


Absolutely fucking relentlessly. It's kinda annoying tbh...

Defend, defend, defend. Brb.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 18:08 GMT
#813
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 18:09 GMT
#815
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:04 GMT
#824
On March 02 2016 03:59 Felkyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 03:09 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 03:08 Spikasaur wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:41 Koshi wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:39 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 02 2016 02:29 marvellosity wrote:
sentinel really making me want to tunnel him to oblivion

Go ahead, it'll make your filter look nicer.

so in your (apparently townie) world, it looks better if i tunnel a townie rather than look at both sides to discern your alignment?

are you for real?

You are the one who gets your junior online to call me a cunt, pussy and trash my mafia play while this guy has yet to make his first decent post. While I was actually pretty decent towards him and tried to converse with him and asked him a couple decent questions. Which he ofc ignored. Because why play the game?

But sure.

Take the high road on this one.


I had a long post a while ago quoting you. Also referring to somewhen you asking questions? I wrote something like 'I must have missed that', you had your chance to just respond then. Now it's just more time and effort to find and answer. So until then, don't complain I'm ignoring you? Ball was in your court.


Also apologies for the foul language. That one was on marv.


Dude, you should just go back and look at his question. It was quite clear. The ball was not in his court. It was in yours and it still is. Refusing to participate is a mafia-aligned.


There's so many irrelevant questions, I don't even know which is the right one.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 19:05 GMT
#826
On March 01 2016 19:41 Koshi wrote:
I really want you to explain why:
1) I am mafia.
2) You are sure that the 3 teams presented by Kush are all town.
3) Why Kush is not mafia for pushing 3 teams that are town in your mind.


Oh is this what you're referring to? I had already replied to this. When I called you wally (which you shouldn't have taken offence to, btw, it's friendly banter where I'm from), I had before written I was saying of the three teams, the top one (my team) was town. Not taking his readings. Just a fun way to say 'we're town'. Much like you with you pro tip --

On March 01 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
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On March 01 2016 05:47 TheCow wrote:
Rels is almost definitely town.

Pro tip: Team Koshi is town.

I think this is a pretty good tip.


1) was already covered and backtracked. However I'll admit I didn't respond to the third, though don't see its importance now.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 21:49 GMT
#940
Where is TheCow?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 21:51 GMT
#942
Four votes on Cownado, shouldn't Cow be here?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 01 2016 23:23 GMT
#1008
Beast? Peanut butter? Should we call you Simon?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:05 GMT
#1060
On March 02 2016 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
Could probably spite lynch sent for his read on me tbh


Voting for the sake of voting safe?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:08 GMT
#1064
Anyone know where Queenfestor is?
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 00:18 GMT
#1078
On March 02 2016 09:18 marvellosity wrote:
The Ve stuff was kinda weird. Spikasaur wants to lynch tictock and queenfestor but can't really explain why.


No he doesn't. He said he didn't have a case.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:03 GMT
#1195
On March 02 2016 11:01 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 02 2016 10:59 Tictock wrote:
Ok caught up now.

On March 02 2016 09:36 marvellosity wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Why are people not voting anal prolapse seriously?
So much sxumminess.
No towniness.
Ff is here in the thread chatting but that is nai.

that's quite a good description tbh. i might have to vote them because i don't know what else to do and it's not really fair to wait to the last minute


This + the fact that Marv decided to solo vote for my team shortly after...

On March 02 2016 09:46 marvellosity wrote:
i think i'm going to waste my vote on blahvacado as i can't really muster up anything either way to tell people not to vote the rels slot or the sentinel slot, i think they could be mafia. queenfestor is kinda a non-entity and the only thing i got is tictock's weird read on sand/qob, so yea.

##vote team blahvacado


tells me Marv has no real scum reads.

I retract my townread.


at that point marv's vote wouldn't have mattered anyway. rels had 4, ff had 3. So marv's vote couldn't have affected who got lynched.

Plus I get the feeling marv did it to appease his bf and make it seem like he valued his reads. Maybe.

Thoughts? Especially on the first part of what I said.


As nice as that would be, it's sadly not his style. He'd throw me under a bus to win a game. Probably even his grandmother.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:05 GMT
#1197
On March 02 2016 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
did you have to use that exact terminology? xD


You'd get more use out of me, so grandmother would likely be first.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:22 GMT
#1203
On March 02 2016 21:19 marvellosity wrote:
dunno why this didn't occur to me at the time


Even when your JR says 'VEs change his mind a little, huh'. Tut tut. You must have been pretty stoned.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 12:25 GMT
#1205
On March 02 2016 21:24 marvellosity wrote:
you were with me.. :p


That's how I remember these conversations you don't, yes.
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 14:20 GMT
#1262
I didn't realise he had posted this... :/
Spikasaur
Profile Joined February 2016
United Kingdom63 Posts
March 02 2016 14:32 GMT
#1264
Tbh marv VE still seems odd to me.

On March 02 2016 07:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On March 02 2016 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Nothing, that is, except EoD. Tomorrow though. Tomorrow.

##Unvote
##Vote: Damandcowthing

Until I get my bearings, the opposing wagon to whomever Ticktock is voting will suffice.

This is from this thread

Here is the voting thread
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On March 02 2016 06:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Team Blahvacado

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On March 02 2016 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Jolly & Awesome Townies

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On March 02 2016 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Team Anal Prolapse

What's going on?


and inability to answer your questions?

On March 02 2016 21:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
"WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THIS GAME OF MAFIA THAT YOU SIGNED UP FOR?!?!? ANSWER MEE!!!!!!"


On March 02 2016 22:35 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
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On March 02 2016 22:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh. I'll cross that bridge when we come to it. There may still be a parity cop all up in here :OOO

really? why not just say the obvious answer, TT?


Attacking TickTock/Blahvacado up 'til last minute, yet the vote switches a lot.
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