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Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF?
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Dude here is you asking opinions on my cell:
On February 25 2016 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred what are you thinking wrt Cell C?
I've noticed that you've posted some thoughts here and there but I haven't seen you commit to anything yet.
On February 26 2016 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is anyone else here? I feel like I need someone to talk to about Cell C because I'm at a loss atm.
On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next.
On February 26 2016 23:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF?
And here is you giving opinions on my cell:
On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cell C
LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.
Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.
Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.
PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things.
On February 25 2016 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still confident in LS being town - nothing has changed to make me lessen that read.
On February 26 2016 04:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:
@OWS tell me m8, who you think is the most town from cells C and B? Cell C is lightningstrike, as I've stated a few times now. Cell B is...Myself I guess? Not entirely sure what you want from me here tbh.
On February 26 2016 04:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:53 ritoky wrote:
@OWS can you cite some specific posts about your LS read? i looked through your filter and saw in the large post you said he had solid town reasoning, then later you said you weren't wavering at all and still thought he was town.
also you have not said a word about rels since he has posted, in your filter you said he hasn't posted so why talk about him, so what do you make of him and his case on DF? I can do both of these things when I get home. I'm still at work and trying to make super quotes via phone is rough. I will concede that I have yet to read into rels at this juncture and I'll see if I can't redo that whole cell when I'm at a computer.
On February 26 2016 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:33 ritoky wrote:On February 26 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 07:13 ritoky wrote:for anyone who cares filter-wise, this is the last post in each of these 3 players' filter before FF became conf town: On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null). On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? everything before that in their filters is pre-FF town So? rels scum read breshke and town read VA prior to the 50/50 being used, the other 2 didn't have very many reads at all prior to the 50/50 being used. Right.
On February 26 2016 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Finally home.
I'm gonna spend the next hour or two doing filter dives into Cell C.
On February 26 2016 14:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cell C is hard lol.
On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Guess I'm alone here.
Ohwells.
I still don't think LS is mafia. Ritoky asked me about why I thought he was town early on but most of it boiled down to the shape of LS' posts - they just seemed to come from the guy that I played with so many times before and nothing seemed particularly wrong with them in terms of scumminess. I know I said something about him being followable but that's just filler nonsense for when I have trouble wording my reads.
(Plus, the bit where LS implied that Damdred was scummy because Damdred thought he seemed off was uber town - mafia just doesn't feel nor sound like that.)
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next.
So combining DF + me: a townlean on DF in your first read post, a "OK" to an argument as to why I could be town recently. NOTHING else.
So ... no. No more dodging. Give your reads on DF / me now OR read our filters again to make up your mind.
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On February 26 2016 23:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF?
Leaning DF but paranoid of Damdred dropping off and tinfoiling that his fake rage all the time is just a method for ez townreads and an excuse to peace out.
If you wonder what damdred has to do with this, it's the fact that Rels wrote him off rather easily in my opinion in his first reads posts exactly based on that rage.
They also both have been rehashing too much for my taste how townie LS is, which is plausible but my beef is the amount of time they both spent talking about it (it's not really that much of a contribution as I've never considered LS to be seriously up for lynch so far).
I'm still on the fence on a lot of stuff
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Since I'm rereading D1 and you claimed to be good at reading Damdred, now would be a good time to give us a taste of your wisdom.
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On February 27 2016 00:08 Rels wrote:Dude here is you asking opinions on my cell: Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 10:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred what are you thinking wrt Cell C?
I've noticed that you've posted some thoughts here and there but I haven't seen you commit to anything yet. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Is anyone else here? I feel like I need someone to talk to about Cell C because I'm at a loss atm. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 23:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax, where are you at concerning Rels/DF? And here is you giving opinions on my cell: Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 01:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cell C
LightningStrike seems pretty normal from my pov - I don't see much of a reason to suspect him and his thought process seems pretty solid/followable.
Foley had some weird post earlier where he wanted his cell to go first even though he had no clue what was going on in it? He seems sort of confident that people will be able to read him town which is always nice to see in newer players so I won't hold that against him. His other big posts have been relatively solid so townlean here.
Rels hasn't posted yet so...There you go.
PoE dictates that Rels is mafia but I can't solidify that read until he does things. Foley is my least confident townread in that cell so if Rels ends up looking supertown then that's probably where I'll take a second look at things. Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm still confident in LS being town - nothing has changed to make me lessen that read. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 04:35 ritoky wrote:
@OWS tell me m8, who you think is the most town from cells C and B? Cell C is lightningstrike, as I've stated a few times now. Cell B is...Myself I guess? Not entirely sure what you want from me here tbh. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 04:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 04:53 ritoky wrote:
@OWS can you cite some specific posts about your LS read? i looked through your filter and saw in the large post you said he had solid town reasoning, then later you said you weren't wavering at all and still thought he was town.
also you have not said a word about rels since he has posted, in your filter you said he hasn't posted so why talk about him, so what do you make of him and his case on DF? I can do both of these things when I get home. I'm still at work and trying to make super quotes via phone is rough. I will concede that I have yet to read into rels at this juncture and I'll see if I can't redo that whole cell when I'm at a computer. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 07:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 07:33 ritoky wrote:On February 26 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On February 26 2016 07:13 ritoky wrote:for anyone who cares filter-wise, this is the last post in each of these 3 players' filter before FF became conf town: On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null). On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? everything before that in their filters is pre-FF town So? rels scum read breshke and town read VA prior to the 50/50 being used, the other 2 didn't have very many reads at all prior to the 50/50 being used. Right. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Finally home.
I'm gonna spend the next hour or two doing filter dives into Cell C. Show nested quote +On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Guess I'm alone here.
Ohwells.
I still don't think LS is mafia. Ritoky asked me about why I thought he was town early on but most of it boiled down to the shape of LS' posts - they just seemed to come from the guy that I played with so many times before and nothing seemed particularly wrong with them in terms of scumminess. I know I said something about him being followable but that's just filler nonsense for when I have trouble wording my reads.
(Plus, the bit where LS implied that Damdred was scummy because Damdred thought he seemed off was uber town - mafia just doesn't feel nor sound like that.)
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next. So combining DF + me: a townlean on DF in your first read post, a "OK" to an argument as to why I could be town recently. NOTHING else. So ... no. No more dodging. Give your reads on DF / me now OR read our filters again to make up your mind.
Fuck off. I said I was figuring that out.
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This speaks strongly in favour of LS being town btw:
On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier
On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games).
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On February 27 2016 00:15 Vivax wrote:This speaks strongly in favour of LS being town btw: Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games).
You quoted the wrong first post lol. I was talking about Breshke's entrance.
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On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh thank the dark gods I rolled town again.
I'll never complain about rolling town ever again what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone
On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.
Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.
While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.
So atm I'm thinking bottom of null .
Page 7.
Noticeable is that Damdred uses exclusively "what if breshke is mafia" reasoning.
In the part of the problem line Damdy wagers that bresh WOULD try to play confused, in the bolded line he wagers exactly the opposite, and ends up at bottom of null, which is probably the safest read one can give out on a scum buddy early in the game.
So this post is pretty fishy now that we know bresh was mafia.
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On February 27 2016 00:13 Vivax wrote:
Since I'm rereading D1 and you claimed to be good at reading Damdred, now would be a good time to give us a taste of your wisdom.
I'm still kinda sure he's town but he's falling off at times I would expect him to be around, which is unlike him and bothers me quite a bit.
But that's my only gripe and it means little in the grand scheme of things unless it becomes a huge problem.
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On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games).
On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party).
EXPLAIN
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I instantly retract my LS townread
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On February 27 2016 00:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:08 ritoky wrote:On February 23 2016 09:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh thank the dark gods I rolled town again.
I'll never complain about rolling town ever again what do you think of breshke so far? or anyone Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 09:14 Damdred wrote:
Personally breshke is a bit of a mixed bag.
Part of the problem is that his posts relay a little bit of conufsiom on the setup and part of me goes it would be easy for scum bresh to try to survive on that.
While another side of me thinks he would try to be a bit more strong here and not try to put the confused town forward.
So atm I'm thinking bottom of null . Page 7. Noticeable is that Damdred uses exclusively "what if breshke is mafia" reasoning. In the part of the problem line Damdy wagers that bresh WOULD try to play confused, in the bolded line he wagers exactly the opposite, and ends up at bottom of null, which is probably the safest read one can give out on a scum buddy early in the game. So this post is pretty fishy now that we know bresh was mafia.
I don't undestand the bold line. Damdred is saying that scum!Breshky wouldn't help town to properly understand the setup ?
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On February 27 2016 00:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party). EXPLAIN
Explain yourself. In the second quote he's saying he still dislikes Breshke' first post but his subsequent ones were better, so unless I didn't understand what you mean there is no contradiction ?
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With all this talk of "Vivax is lazy as scum" this points at Vivax being town even more. Rereading the game + being aggressive with his thoughts.
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On February 27 2016 00:41 Rels wrote:
With all this talk of "Vivax is lazy as scum" this points at Vivax being town even more. Rereading the game + being aggressive with his thoughts.
Correct.
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On February 27 2016 00:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party). EXPLAIN
I didn't like it at the time because he wanted his Cell to be last which is very strange(and now we know why) but then I started liking some of his posts but then he decided not to do jack shit when it was his Cell to go first.
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good point rels. it looks like OWS is fishing for the possibility of lynching you over df.
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On February 27 2016 00:45 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 00:29 Vivax wrote:On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). On February 23 2016 11:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey I just got home and read the thread: I kinda mad that people think my cell should go first since I know I am easily readable as the game progresses...... sicklucker's entrance seems bad because it just a very bad excuse........ I like kush right now and same with ritoky because of their questioning. Breshke after his entrance seems okay but Breshke is easier to find as scum after the first couple of day phases(I vigged him when he rolled scum vs me in NYE Party). EXPLAIN I didn't like it at the time because he wanted his Cell to be last which is very strange(and now we know why) but then I started liking some of his posts but then he decided not to do jack shit when it was his Cell to go first hence why I voted him over VA later.
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im just afriad that bum is afk and vivax is in tryhard scum mode.
because vivax was kind of inexplicably wrong on vayne, now he is looking to not vote df.
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On February 27 2016 00:46 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
good point rels. it looks like OWS is fishing for the possibility of lynching you over df.
Yep!
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