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On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game
??? I thought you read up your mind already, reading our filters and everything:
On February 27 2016 03:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 12:35 LightningStrike wrote:On February 23 2016 12:31 Damdred wrote:
Well what do you think of his respons(es) to my post earlier? and what about him from star wars? Is he telling the truth in his post? what? Darth corrected himself after remembering Star Wars was played with with our entire cell lol......... It was true I did get townread pretty quickly in that game compared to Onegu so(shrugs). Darth just never had the pleasure of having to deal with scum Rels twice(His scum game was pretty solid). About people's responses to your post: Ritoky does have a decent point about my cell being easier to read as the game goes on. Doesn't help Rels haven't posted yet :\ Few things about LS: read through his filter, and besides the one post I didn't like, there wasn't much from scum pov imo. I also think he was town read as quickly as Star Wars by people who know him better than I do, so I think he's more likely to be town than Rels. TL;DR: I'm not mafia. Who's mafia in my cell? Rels. Way too much cherry picking, misrepresenting and illogical reads from a smart town perspective imo.
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On February 27 2016 13:21 darthfoley wrote:
Idk, considering I need Rels to confirm what he meant. I wanna know what meant Rels by aggressive. I can't answer that until Rels does
I meant what ritoky meant.
I am going to say that as scum too so I have no idea what you were looking for.
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On February 27 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Screw this I'm going to bed and handling this game in the morning.
You're so useless.
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On February 27 2016 23:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 18:18 Rels wrote:On February 27 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Screw this I'm going to bed and handling this game in the morning. You're so useless. Any particular reason you're acting like this?
I think you're scum.
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kura why did you vote LS ? I've only seen a post on DF where you pointed scummy things on him, nothing on LS.
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On February 28 2016 03:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2016 02:48 Vivax wrote:
I have a really bad feeling about this lynch, but I feel I can really not find anything to conclusively change it in a slam dunk way, besides that darth made a townie impression on me with some posts. Yeah...
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On February 26 2016 15:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Guess I'm alone here.
Ohwells.
I still don't think LS is mafia. Ritoky asked me about why I thought he was town early on but most of it boiled down to the shape of LS' posts - they just seemed to come from the guy that I played with so many times before and nothing seemed particularly wrong with them in terms of scumminess. I know I said something about him being followable but that's just filler nonsense for when I have trouble wording my reads.
(Plus, the bit where LS implied that Damdred was scummy because Damdred thought he seemed off was uber town - mafia just doesn't feel nor sound like that.)
I'm still deciding between DF and Rels. I was hoping to talk to someone else about it but apparently nobody is here. I'll see if I can't talk things over with someone I trust tomorrow on where we should go next.
On February 27 2016 01:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I think DF is the scum in this cell.
At the very least I don't think it's rels so that leaves me with one person to suspect.
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On February 28 2016 03:27 Damdred wrote:
@Ls, Rels, Darth. Could all three of you post reads on the next cells would really help to see an updated thought process.
@Ritoky, I think that your read on ls is off here. I've never seen him act in this sense if he's scum. And I don't think ls is someone to break his meta just because he knows most the games can't read him and he has to rely on that not to cost towns more loses then he already has.
Next scums:
OWS scum => super undecided and useless. Way less sexy than in PYP.
SL => not in the middle of things to solve the game. Really different from the trown SL I've seen these past few games. I think he decided to bus and fucked off. kura doing a huge post on VA and Breshke not long before deadline is weird for scum too.
bum => Vivax and kush are super likely town. Weird behaviour this cell being undecided but trying to put shit on me anyway.
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On February 28 2016 03:40 Damdred wrote:
Here's what's bothering me when I look through darths filter.
He's pretty indecisive between ls and Rels before Rels cases him. He then cases Rels back, and discards the notion of ls being scum and just centers on Rels. He even asks ls if he thinks Darth is scum and just tells him he's wrong.
I think my question is what made you lose any paranoia of ls darth? And why did it 100% have to be Rels from your perspective no matter what?
Yeah exactly. His only reasons for me being scum is that I'm nitpicking him.
But now he's back on "LS might be scum" so it's one more 180:
On February 27 2016 18:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game ??? I thought you read up your mind already, reading our filters and everything: Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 03:29 darthfoley wrote:On February 23 2016 12:35 LightningStrike wrote:On February 23 2016 12:31 Damdred wrote:
Well what do you think of his respons(es) to my post earlier? and what about him from star wars? Is he telling the truth in his post? what? Darth corrected himself after remembering Star Wars was played with with our entire cell lol......... It was true I did get townread pretty quickly in that game compared to Onegu so(shrugs). Darth just never had the pleasure of having to deal with scum Rels twice(His scum game was pretty solid). About people's responses to your post: Ritoky does have a decent point about my cell being easier to read as the game goes on. Doesn't help Rels haven't posted yet :\ Few things about LS: read through his filter, and besides the one post I didn't like, there wasn't much from scum pov imo. I also think he was town read as quickly as Star Wars by people who know him better than I do, so I think he's more likely to be town than Rels. TL;DR: I'm not mafia. Who's mafia in my cell? Rels. Way too much cherry picking, misrepresenting and illogical reads from a smart town perspective imo.
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I have a hard time seeing "lynched D1 one month ago" kura making these big posts, even if they are kinda hard to follow.
Might be a bad read but this combined with SL uselesness makes me think SL is scum in the last cell.
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On February 28 2016 04:16 Vivax wrote:
I can buy Rels scum alone for the fact he's handing out so many confident easy townreads, out of his cell and within his one (on LS) as well, he's basically a straight rocket which would be pretty much the ideal for mafia. Just focus on your cell, mislynch a guy, don't stir too much trouble or use too much effort in handling the other reads.
I'ma vote rels for shenannies
Voting me because I have confident townreads is bullshit.
Especially since my confident townreads out of cells are you, kush and ritoky and you agree with all of those I think ? Only the LS one is weird to you.
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On February 28 2016 04:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2016 04:23 Rels wrote:On February 28 2016 04:16 Vivax wrote:
I can buy Rels scum alone for the fact he's handing out so many confident easy townreads, out of his cell and within his one (on LS) as well, he's basically a straight rocket which would be pretty much the ideal for mafia. Just focus on your cell, mislynch a guy, don't stir too much trouble or use too much effort in handling the other reads.
I'ma vote rels for shenannies Voting me because I have confident townreads is bullshit. Especially since my confident townreads out of cells are you, kush and ritoky and you agree with all of those I think ? Only the LS one is weird to you. For me it's not relevant if your reads coincide with mine. It's more that I'm afraid your play is "too clean" to be town. Like, I find this cell freakishly hard to solve and you are SO confident in your LS townread, that for example you spoke up for him when I was confronting him with the weird change in read on breshke on D1 which was really only justified by 1 post of breshke in between LS' posts. Plus your play is super streamlined to just fulfill the objective of getting darth lynched since you started posting the big ass cases, and you didn't really care about the post from Damdred I mentioned where he posted that weird read on breshke until I asked you about it, so that suggests to me you're just in super tryhard mode only this day and plan to fulfill one objective: Get a mislynch and cause as few ruckus as possible about it (for example scumhunting outside your cell or starting to suspect LS).
This is just not fuckling true. My play has been streamlined to solve this game, and I'm sure the scum today is DF. DF has been reactive and have done nothing until I attacked him. He has NO reason to scumread me and is OMGUSing me because I'm pushing him.
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On February 28 2016 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rels, why is it that you're townreading Shapelog in my cell for having reads that are similar to yours despite the fact that he's actively avoiding trying to lynch darth?
Unless I'm wrong he's scumreading DF so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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On February 28 2016 04:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:This is the closest he's come to actually voting darth: Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 11:01 Shapelog wrote:
Maybe I am just being a idiot, and it is really darth. Compare that to just page 9 of his filter: Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 09:05 Shapelog wrote:Really? Not even to this post from darth? I think it really can only come from a town POV imo Show nested quote +On February 27 2016 09:36 Shapelog wrote:
1. I agree with Darth, I feel his read on Breshke at the time makes sense. Mainly because there was not a lot to go off of. And the votes count, while misleading, could just be a simple mistake on Darth's behalf. I do not understand how it would help scum to lie about VC when it is so easy to look at.
2. I can understand Darths defense and questioning about Rel's VA read. I do not think, however, Rels fabricated it in anyway to TR VA while bussing Breshke. Especially when FF or VA could of been pushed for lack of content Etc at that point.
3. Darth logics makes sense.
4. I agree with Rels, I personally feel like Darth is spending to much time defending himself. But What else is he going to do? Half the thread (if not all of it) is scum reading him. But He could be finding more holes etc. while proving his town stats. Darth did jump ahead however and answer 5 in his response to 4. (Meta reads help cause theses btw.)
5. He did read them.
6. I think Darth should I have a read at this point (maybe not on LS because not a whole lot for a newbie to go off of.) But it makes sense for Darth to point out scum things (just like I have been doing with my cell)
7. 2 ponts that are NAI are, guess what NAI! Darth could of cited the vote timing of rel btw....
Darth OMGUS on Rels: Really NAI, Scum Darth would be trying to ML Rels if he saw a opening. Town Darth Is prob. pissed at Rels.
Rels not wanting to use the Obs power being Scummy:Could be tbh., It is a weak power. If we are going ot use it, Rik needs to use it now.
They're the two giant posts that aren't complete spam in his most recent posting. He's actively fighting you for the most part when he isn't fencesitting in yet he's town for it while I'm scum? Or did you just not catch up on this? What gives?
He is reacting to stuff that's happening in the thread. You're not doing anything (until now that Vivax is attacking me).
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On February 28 2016 04:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2016 04:45 Rels wrote:On February 28 2016 04:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rels, why is it that you're townreading Shapelog in my cell for having reads that are similar to yours despite the fact that he's actively avoiding trying to lynch darth? Unless I'm wrong he's scumreading DF so I have no idea what you're talking about. I just posted close to, if not the exact opposite, of what you're saying. Him constantly fencesitting after repeatedly calling him town is not scumreading DF. Is there reasoning beyond his reads being similar to yours (even though they're not really) or is that it?
D1 he was questionning and attacking DF on stuff, and commentating on me vs LS vs DF. That seemed super townie. Let me find the posts.
On February 25 2016 02:53 Shapelog wrote:Eh Tornado warning for NC ._. Let meh read tis epic fight between Darth and Rels. I agree with the Darth that I found a bit of Rels reads a bit weak (or for that matter, found them meh due to them being solo meta reads.) And it is also off putting from Rels that he said "and he agreed with everything else." when Darth didn't. My problems with darth in this fight is a few things (and darth, please feel free to comment about them.) -Knows/has/had a basic meta idea of VA. But has yet to really comment about anything with said knowledge. -Kinda ignored the question/statement from Rels (#638) about townread on Breshke - Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 02:00 darthfoley wrote:
No, i'm aggressively going after shitty town reads from a guy in MY cell who could easily be scum, but go ahead and keep misrepresenting me read(s), as in multiple. Also a bit sus. that he choose his scum(?) pick for this cell to invest first. Which I guess could just be explained by him finding Rels as Scum. I will try to be on tonight, but with the storms, my internet will prob. be out.
On February 25 2016 03:19 Shapelog wrote:
^I have a weird vibe from darth at #640 . It is totally, like destroying my inner zen.
But then we have the VA man. And like he is not helping balance the thread. Like there was like, 10 or so posts before Mr.Darthy Froffy posted. Then he replies and sits back, and even answers Kush's question (who I though was like, not going to be here today.) before getting around to Darth. Which, like could come from a town who was trying to just not implied the conversation.
That Said, Would like the VA man to post some stuff like reasoning behind his scum reads.
On February 25 2016 04:06 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 03:55 Damdred wrote:
Correct shape.
My opinion so far is
Ls town
Rels town lean
Darth scum lean
Same here. I like LS, I like him more if Breshke flips scum. LS was the 1st person to go after him. Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). I like this because who in their right mind will go after their team mate that early? Then just him in general. That leaves Darth and Rels. Rels reads are a bit weak, but yet I can see where he is coming from. He also seems/want to solve the game. Darth, for 1 seems different than what i remember, but also seems a bit weak. He is more lax instead of in the fore front. Might be worth digging through his Unoriginal Filter to see his scum game.
On February 25 2016 04:08 Shapelog wrote:
@Darth. Can I have a full list of your reads? Would appreciate it.
On February 25 2016 22:16 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:26 darthfoley wrote: Does this game remind you at all of my scum play in Unoriginal? I'd say it's about as different as you could be. + Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed,
= Confusion. Darth wants people to see that he is different from his scum game in unoriginal (which was Unthemed.) But when I pull up a another unthemed game (A Newbie but still) he says it is completely different. I would of been fine if he said "Shapelog, it is different because that is a Newbie." But instead he said "Shapelog it is different because this is themed."
It's true it's not as decisive as I thought. He conclude like that later:
On February 26 2016 04:08 Shapelog wrote:CELL C: I was Rushed, Will Elaborate more after I get home.LS-LS has not made a post that has really move me. He has not made a big post really, or anything like that. He has not really posted anything like a list of reads and stuff like that. Thus, My TR has degenerate from LS. Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up guys and I see VA and Breshke haven't posted anything -_- Rel's thinks I' m town  and Shape being Shape and ritoky tried to explain bum his meta read on VA. Hmm. Also the fact Breshke haven't even tried much to defend himself since the 1v1 is very bad. I think I will vote Breshke for now unless something changes.##Vote: Breshke Not a great reason to join the wagon. But W/e. I kinda have LS in a POE situation here, his other 2 cell mates have been making big posts. V.S. LS who is very lax with his post size. I have a weak TL on him because of his overall relaxed tone (until that flip on FF. lol), but I could see him being scum. After reading that again, I want to look at it moreRELS- I did not like his opening reads. Mostly because it was a clash of meta and content (I actually think, that in all my town games, I have actually posted a list of reads with the most being Null lol.) One sentence on a read back on his read on me does not make sense. I do not understand how not TR damdred is scummy. Might just be confirmation Bias though. He is questioning people and interrogating. He is trying to solve the game, which makes want to TR him. I do, however, wish he would not use meta so hard but what ever. Darth- I am wishy on Darth. Some posts makes me want to TR him while others I find scummy. One thing i found weird was how after the Breshke wagon got heavily he started to go after LS and kind of did so during the middle of the cycle. Maybe it is just him trying to solve his cell since it's next. Scum for this cell is either LS/Darth. I am rushed so I can not really deep read darth's filter to detrime if he is scum trying to live or town trying to figure out things..
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Yeah I was somehow sure Shape was scumreading DF way stronger than that. I don't understand his take on LS actually
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On February 25 2016 04:06 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 03:55 Damdred wrote:
Correct shape.
My opinion so far is
Ls town
Rels town lean
Darth scum lean
Same here. I like LS, I like him more if Breshke flips scum. LS was the 1st person to go after him. Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
I am home but only for a few minutes(my phone is dead that why I stopped posting when I did) and I will explain why I dislike Breshke's post.
The first part about not wanting to be the mayor is NAI but his last part about not wanting to be in the final cell seems pretty scummy at least in my eyes. Generally speaking I think it's best to have our strongest players in Cell 3/4 because if we manged to get 2 scums lynched by that point then we should be able to win easily(at least that what I thinking from reading some parts of the old cell games). I like this because who in their right mind will go after their team mate that early? Then just him in general. That leaves Darth and Rels. Rels reads are a bit weak, but yet I can see where he is coming from. He also seems/want to solve the game. Darth, for 1 seems different than what i remember, but also seems a bit weak. He is more lax instead of in the fore front. Might be worth digging through his Unoriginal Filter to see his scum game.
LS town.
On February 26 2016 04:08 Shapelog wrote:CELL C: I was Rushed, Will Elaborate more after I get home.LS-LS has not made a post that has really move me. He has not made a big post really, or anything like that. He has not really posted anything like a list of reads and stuff like that. Thus, My TR has degenerate from LS. Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:Just woke up guys and I see VA and Breshke haven't posted anything -_- Rel's thinks I' m town and Shape being Shape and ritoky tried to explain bum his meta read on VA. Hmm. Also the fact Breshke haven't even tried much to defend himself since the 1v1 is very bad. I think I will vote Breshke for now unless something changes.##Vote: Breshke Not a great reason to join the wagon. But W/e. I kinda have LS in a POE situation here, his other 2 cell mates have been making big posts. V.S. LS who is very lax with his post size. I have a weak TL on him because of his overall relaxed tone (until that flip on FF. lol), but I could see him being scum. After reading that again, I want to look at it more[..] After filterdiving here is a new chart: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/18gB6pB.png)
No mention of the "LS attacked Breshke" stuff he used as a reason to TR LS before ?
Weird.
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On February 28 2016 04:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So what's your conclusion from all this?
Could be scum. If you're not. Why are you jumping on me suddenly, after reading our filters for hours and not commentating on anything before ?
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On February 26 2016 06:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vote Count Breshke (12): Rels, ritoky, Shapelog, VayneAuthority, sicklucker, bumatlarge, Fecalfeast, LightningStrike, ObiWanShinobi, darthfoley, Vivax , Damdred VayneAuthority (1): Kuragari42 Fecalfeast (1): nnn_thekushmountains Not Voted (1): Breshke Currently, Breshke is slated to be lynched.
You have to place your vote here.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
LOL
ritoky remind me in what place a mafia is likely to vote in a D1 bus ?
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And where is fucking Damdred too, I thought he was going to play after breakfast.
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Shape explain your LS read please ? I thought you were townreading him 'cause a post of him on Breshke that didn't look like partner indicative ? What happens to that ?
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