On February 25 2016 00:05 Shapelog wrote:
Hm ok
Hm ok
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You have nothing to say on my read of OWS ? Or Damdred ?
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On February 25 2016 00:05 Shapelog wrote: Hm ok ... You have nothing to say on my read of OWS ? Or Damdred ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote: iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 00:23 Kuragari42 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote: To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. I was thinking much of the same thing but with FF as scum so hmm. I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 01:20 Kuragari42 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 00:28 Rels wrote: I don't understand. If FF is scum and VA is chosen by the 50/50, DF is forced to bus FF ? Why do you have the feeling that DF is scum with FF ? It appeared to me as though he was going for towncred. Since more people were scumming Breske, if VA were 50/50'd Breske could be the lynch even if Darth bussed. If Breske got 50/50'd, well he town read him all along. I still don't understand. Sure this scenario is possible, but there is nothing that makes it likely or not likely. It is not the simplest explanation either. What is your read of DF ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 01:35 darthfoley wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 00:08 Rels wrote: Actually I don't understand this post at all. On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote: Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them. I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons. On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke. All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor? Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far Posts he was referencing: + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote: Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them? Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order? On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote: Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells? Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off? On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote: Show nested quote + On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote: Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far. I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard. im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party. I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective. VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented. Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up About FF, since "Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless" and his only relevant post (about Breshke) are bad, FF HAS to be scum right ? Yet he seems super unsure about that fact. I don't undersatnd the VA scumread. If the scumread was only: VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning then OK, I would get it. But that shit is overexplained with stuff that is apparently "not alignment indicative yet". To me, it looks like DF is scum with Breshke, got shit on both FF and VA, and is waiting to see on which the 50/50 is going to fall. No, he doesn't HAVE to be scum. The reason I think 50/50 would be quite beneficial on this group is simply because all three of the players have been underwhelming. I don't think any of them have added useful town discussion, so I consider this cell a crap shoot with VA/FF feeling more scummy than Breshke. I'm unsure about FF right now because I have to accept the fact that only 1 out of 3 players in this meh scummy cell is scum. Your reason for townreading Breshke is super bad though. He posts 3 things that are talking about cell strategy, that are completely not alignment indicative, even scum indicative when added to the fact that it is the only thing he has talked about N0, and you think he sounds "like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective." | ||
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On February 25 2016 01:52 darthfoley wrote: Can you please explain how he's been "kinda useless" when i've been super scum read by you as "useless"? His filter is absolute ass. He had a good point about Breshke. He's playing like he would as town, but his town game is easy to fake. So he's null. On February 25 2016 01:52 darthfoley wrote: Also, please explain how the hell you concluded that VA has been "aggressively" posting his thoughts and reads? You mean his one page filter, or his scummy ideas about cell order? Or maybe THESE "aggressive" reads l0l First post: On February 23 2016 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote: vivax and breshke mafia Since he has posted who he thinks is scum in each cell periodically. On February 25 2016 01:52 darthfoley wrote: These are shitty reads from town rels imo So you agree on every reads of mine besides yourself and cell D people but those are shitty reads ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 02:15 darthfoley wrote: when did I say I agreed with everything else? I haven't had enough time to analyze the rest of them Then how do you know they are shitty ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote: It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 03:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: 50:50 The 50:50 has been used! FecalFeast is confirmed as Town. Nice (= | ||
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On February 25 2016 03:20 ritoky wrote: did TL go down for anyone else last night for like 6 hrs? or was it just me getting rekt? I had that this morning | ||
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On February 25 2016 03:34 Shapelog wrote: Eh like Man VA might just have RL stuff. Going to vote the person who I think is scum. ##Vote: Breshke What do you mean with that "RL stuff" thing ? VA posted more frequently than Breshke so I don't understand. | ||
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On February 25 2016 03:51 darthfoley wrote: In class but i'll respond in full later. It's not that I am dead set on VA scum or Bresh town. I was mainly pointing out what I found to be poorly explained reads with bad reasoning by Rels. Ritoky's read of the cell is a lot more thought out than Rels imo 1. Updated reads on VA and Breshke then or you're not "dead set" ? You seemed pretty "dead set" on that post where you ridiculed my "VA is aggressive" sentence. 2. On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote: It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote: @Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ??? Ritoky's read: On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote: 4) VA did his town meta thing 5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players. | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 05:05 darthfoley wrote: Ritoky, what do you think of Rels read post? my largest problem with his read post was that his weakest opinions were on the members of his own cell, which are the people he should be focusing on the most, since he "knows" 1 of the 2 are scum and that his cell is guaranteed to go before the game ends. it read slightly as if he wanted to leave his options open on his own cell and not committ. that said i gave some slight town points to everyone who openly gave out decently extensive reads before the 50/50, cuz i think mafia members outside the current cell are more prone to not commit to reads and then look like an idiot an hour later when the person they shit on gets green'd. I have the reads I have, not going to invent them. | ||
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On February 25 2016 06:03 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 05:58 Rels wrote: On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote: @Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ??? Ritoky's read: On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote: 4) VA did his town meta thing 5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players. just in case you didn't know i coached darth pretty much the same way i coached you if that helps you read him at all. So ? | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:29 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 05:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: ^*their. @Vivax, vayne's bum read looks tooscummytobescum honestly. On February 25 2016 01:56 VayneAuthority wrote: On February 25 2016 01:51 nooniansoong wrote: On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote: On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote: On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote: iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ? breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL Why vivax over bum? i have no idea why actually, seems cool to have one offmeta read I disagree, I'm pretty positive most of mafia's on the bresh wagon. I also want to add that my current bet would be on ritoky being the last mafia, and the guy who's going to carry them on top. The soft bus stuff he used against darth reminded me of that. You meant "against kura" ? | ||
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On February 24 2016 08:35 Breshke wrote: Damdred are you still here? This is a lot harder than i thought it would be. Currently after my brief skims through VA and FF's filter I havn't actually found anything scummy from either of them. I think VA is the scum though purely from the fact that this looks exactly like what I remember from FF and i've only ever played with him as town iirc. His posts seem totally carefree and there is the random posts that do not relate to the game whatsoever. I will look through his recent scumgames though and see if it's any different. @VA Show nested quote + On February 23 2016 12:12 VayneAuthority wrote: On February 23 2016 11:56 ritoky wrote: On February 23 2016 11:38 Damdred wrote: Ritoky do you have any town reads or scum reads here? I didn't like sls entrance but idk I wouldn't want your cell up early in either instance. But I don't think for SL it was necessarily scummy just a shitty excuse i was mildkly okay with OWS's entrance cuz of his confidence level. basically said "i can shit enough town and i can read damdred well enough that my cell is cake". kush feels town for now darth doesn't seem like town darth right now, he typed a big post and none of it was about the current game. SL was underwhelming on his entrance. VA did the town VA thing, but i kinda told him that meta read last time we played so he could easily be emulating it you overestimate my memory, barely remember what happened in that game but dont worry ill solve the game right now SL Obi Rels breshke vivax badabing I know this was at the start of the game but do you remember reasons for this list. MM I THINK VA IS THE SCUMMIEST IN THE FF / VA FIGHT GONNA FOCUS EVERY POST ON FF FROM THEN ON | ||
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On February 25 2016 06:11 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On February 25 2016 05:29 Vivax wrote: On February 25 2016 05:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: ^*their. @Vivax, vayne's bum read looks tooscummytobescum honestly. On February 25 2016 01:56 VayneAuthority wrote: On February 25 2016 01:51 nooniansoong wrote: On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote: On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote: On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote: iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ? breshke scum my updated list is breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL Why vivax over bum? i have no idea why actually, seems cool to have one offmeta read I disagree, I'm pretty positive most of mafia's on the bresh wagon. I also want to add that my current bet would be on ritoky being the last mafia, and the guy who's going to carry them on top. The soft bus stuff he used against darth reminded me of that. You meant "against kura" ? | ||
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