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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 03:53 GMT
#2021
If anyone else feels like checking in, go ahead.
I'll be goofing off for a little bit before posting some findings later tonight.
Retired.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
March 02 2016 04:38 GMT
#2022
Well I'm off for the night! Epic Shaperapist read in the morning (with my thoughts *sigh* for ritoky)!

Peace.
SMITE
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 05:54 GMT
#2023
I don't feel like doing anything.
uuuuurrrrgggghhhhhhh
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 06:27 GMT
#2024
Alright, forget it.
I'm going to wake up early and see if I can't do anything then. I obviously don't have the energy for it now and I'm just going to crash for the night.
Retired.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 02 2016 08:07 GMT
#2025
On March 02 2016 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 04:36 ritoky wrote:
damdred, OWS, and shape i would like you all to answer this as extensively as you can.

who was mafia between rels and LS? why?

who is mafia in your cell? why?


Mafia in cell 2 was LS: I seriously doubt both of the others in my cell voting him up to dead even was an attempt at wifom - that cell was a necessity for mafia to even come close to winning this game.


For Rels to be mafia indicates that whoever the scum is among the other two was so ballsy that they thought they could win cell 3 and stay in the game despite bum being a sinking ship.

As for who the scum in our cell is, I want to say shape but I'm still working through the "why" and what Vivax posted about Damdred.



this is a really good point
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 02 2016 08:09 GMT
#2026
On March 02 2016 08:03 ritoky wrote:
SL, last time you talked about this cell you thought it was obi? still the case? why?


On March 01 2016 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
Well yesterday i was sure today was gonna be an easy obi vote. but shapelogs play yesterday was pretty bad. He waited till the end and tried to get the wagon to switch multitple times

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 02 2016 08:11 GMT
#2027
On March 02 2016 10:10 Shapelog wrote:
Ok I am barly able to see the screen anymore and I am just looking at my keyboard to type.

My tinfoil theory (which i have not fully looked at btw) basically puts Damdred/Sl as scum together because of a few reasons.
One, He seems tunneled on Kura, but rarely meations SL. even called SL useless and not caring (but yet that does not seem to send off red flags as of late.)
however I soon as i say i thought Kura was town. Damdred jumped on me.
Two, He does not even seem to really care about Cell A. He is like "wow your cell is hard." yet it was one of the easier cells in the game tbh. there is not really a lot to ponder other which of the 2 do you think is more lazy.

There is more, But i need eyes really to fitler dive. Prob. worth doing a associative read for both OWS and Damdred with the 2 flipped scum (and maybe Darth as well, though, that might not be fair tbh).


no one really cares about my cell tho.. Its not just dandred. Its everyone but ritoky pretty much.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 02 2016 08:12 GMT
#2028
On March 02 2016 10:19 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:05 Kuragari42 wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:51 Shapelog wrote:
I did, I just never posted about it.
Did the same thing In a game that i just finished with the intentional of soft claiming Miller.


You were scum in that game?

Blue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia


shapelog do you think my game here and in that game are much different?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 02 2016 09:04 GMT
#2029
Vote Count

Not Voted (6): Kuragari42, Shapelog, ritoky, ObiWanShinobi, sicklucker, Damdred

Currently, everyone is slated to be modkilled.
You have to place your vote here.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 13:23 GMT
#2030
On March 02 2016 17:12 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 10:19 Shapelog wrote:
On March 02 2016 10:05 Kuragari42 wrote:
On March 02 2016 09:51 Shapelog wrote:
I did, I just never posted about it.
Did the same thing In a game that i just finished with the intentional of soft claiming Miller.


You were scum in that game?

Blue. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503525-shin-megami-tensei-the-devil-inside-mafia


shapelog do you think my game here and in that game are much different?

Yes. You seem less interesting and helpful.

Devil: 9 page filter, Nked N1
This: 6 page filter for what 4 cycles?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 13:24 GMT
#2031
On March 02 2016 18:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Currently, everyone is slated to be modkilled.

LAWL.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 13:33 GMT
#2032
On March 02 2016 06:15 Damdred wrote:
I had a long post ready but my phone died sadly. That sucls.

Pl so, I want to say that rels was the scum because I hate to think that my read on L's that's been good forwver is void and I don't want to hear ritoky rub it in post game

But after reading bums filter he basically cpnfis that L's was the scum sadly.

Besides that I think the scum is shape
I've pointed out several of his voting inconaitincies. I think the beat one is around the bum lynch you have ritoky being super tinfoil and having a hard time making a decision and I was waffling as well

All you need at that point is two town to go with you and you win the cell basically, soon as ritoky settles on bum he hops over for some credit.

As for obi he's been playing to his town game I think, not super bussying and just doing whatever the hell he wants.

I love it when you do not read my posts explaining anything.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 13:47 GMT
#2033
On March 02 2016 22:33 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 06:15 Damdred wrote:
I had a long post ready but my phone died sadly. That sucls.

Pl so, I want to say that rels was the scum because I hate to think that my read on L's that's been good forwver is void and I don't want to hear ritoky rub it in post game

But after reading bums filter he basically cpnfis that L's was the scum sadly.

Besides that I think the scum is shape
I've pointed out several of his voting inconaitincies. I think the beat one is around the bum lynch you have ritoky being super tinfoil and having a hard time making a decision and I was waffling as well

All you need at that point is two town to go with you and you win the cell basically, soon as ritoky settles on bum he hops over for some credit.

As for obi he's been playing to his town game I think, not super bussying and just doing whatever the hell he wants.

I love it when you do not read my posts explaining anything.


Explain them or quote them again pls?
Retired.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 13:51 GMT
#2034
On March 01 2016 22:03 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 04:56 Shapelog wrote:
Fuck it, I am sure that a Town Kush would not just disappear like this.

Then Bum straighten me out.
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 05:02 bumatlarge wrote:
What the fuck shape, if you are going to get on an irrelevant vote, you need to provide good reasons so that you can convince others, not just make it look like an obvious off-vote. This is some basic mafia stuff dude. Even if no one follows, you can't be held accountable for an idle vote if you put some elbow grease into it. And on top of that, it's on kush for not posting? Weak bro, you can do better.

So I unvoted and looked back leading to post
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:18 bumatlarge wrote:
I guess PoE doesn't mean what it used to?

Well Vivax to me is town. And I can not find anything really to scum read/file a case against Kush that to me, convinces me that he is scum. Other than a course his awful vote yesterday and lack of care (he is doing it again).

so that leaves you Bum. But I have goosebumps voting you.

Which lead to my vote on him.

So Bum convinced me to vote him.

On March 01 2016 22:03 Shapelog wrote:
Oh that was in respones to:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count

bumatlarge (7): ObiWanShinobi, sicklucker, nnn_thekushmountains, Damdred, Vivax, Shapelog, ritoky
Vivax (2): bumatlarge, Kuragari42,

Currently, bumatlarge is slated to be lynched.
You have to place your vote here.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.


Its interesting to me this vote count.

A few question overall, Shape will did you initially vote Kush

On March 01 2016 04:57 Shapelog wrote:
##Vote:Kush or whatever Smurf he is using


about the time ritoky and I were talking heavily (I believe) about maybe going onto Kush or at least being worried about him. But soon as Ritoky votes Bum you decide to jump onto bum as well shortly afterwards?

Several times you talk about how you can't see town Kush do this be so disinterested which is actually decent thoughs to an extent. But hten you say this

On March 01 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:18 bumatlarge wrote:
I guess PoE doesn't mean what it used to?

Well Vivax to me is town. And I can not find anything really to scum read/file a case against Kush that to me, convinces me that he is scum. Other than a course his awful vote yesterday and lack of care (he is doing it again).

so that leaves you Bum. But I have goosebumps voting you.


Like I said before can you really take us through what your thought process was and why you do certain things?


I got worried about Kush because I heard of tales how if he does not seem to care, he is scum.

On March 01 2016 23:39 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 08:30 Damdred wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vote Count

bumatlarge (7): ObiWanShinobi, sicklucker, nnn_thekushmountains, Damdred, Vivax, Shapelog, ritoky
Vivax (2): bumatlarge, Kuragari42,

Currently, bumatlarge is slated to be lynched.
You have to place your vote here.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.


Its interesting to me this vote count.

A few question overall, Shape will did you initially vote Kush

On March 01 2016 04:57 Shapelog wrote:
##Vote:Kush or whatever Smurf he is using


about the time ritoky and I were talking heavily (I believe) about maybe going onto Kush or at least being worried about him. But soon as Ritoky votes Bum you decide to jump onto bum as well shortly afterwards?

Several times you talk about how you can't see town Kush do this be so disinterested which is actually decent thoughs to an extent. But hten you say this

On March 01 2016 06:21 Shapelog wrote:
On March 01 2016 06:18 bumatlarge wrote:
I guess PoE doesn't mean what it used to?

Well Vivax to me is town. And I can not find anything really to scum read/file a case against Kush that to me, convinces me that he is scum. Other than a course his awful vote yesterday and lack of care (he is doing it again).

so that leaves you Bum. But I have goosebumps voting you.


Like I said before can you really take us through what your thought process was and why you do certain things?


This is actually a really weird post. Especially if you read back to that. You clearly see what I was thinking and who convinced be to vote bum (which was bum...lol.) You also see that my vote came in after heavily discussion about kush (it was not in the middle of it.) and that I did not sheep Rik onto it (even though my vote came in right behind him.)

This makes me feel, that Damdred skimmed through the information and did not actually read it. that is the only thing that makes sense to me IMO about my sheeping rik.

"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 13:56 GMT
#2035
Right.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 13:58 GMT
#2036
Idk, I kinda felt like Shape did more on Day 2 while Damdred kinda hopped on at the last second and never really considered the implications of voting with his scumread.

Time to read that Vivax stuff.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 02 2016 14:01 GMT
#2037
It bugs me that I can come up with reasons for both of you being scum. :/
Retired.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 14:06 GMT
#2038
On February 24 2016 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Why scum read ls here rit?

You know this "god read" Damdred has on LS, that everyone knows, makes a scum team with LS/Damdred really strong.
idk if people have thought of that when they ask Damdred for a god read.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 02 2016 14:23 GMT
#2039
I have a soul read on several players.

Ritoky being one of them as well, I'm not sure what your point is with this bit its wifom believe at most.

That's not a good point ows, people vote with their scum reads all the time as town. You vote the person you think is scum, I hopped on but I was super active around deadline pushing rels over Darth.

What's the point of pitting my neck super out there as scum to push one town wagon over the other? Especially when I could of afk and focused on doing other things and nobody would blame me.

Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
March 02 2016 14:27 GMT
#2040
On February 24 2016 08:55 Damdred wrote:
I'm here, sorry ff thought I was up first.

Ok so I had a thought Breshke did something super Toney I want thoughts on.

When he came back rit was debating when to use the 50/50. It will be 100% easier in that situation for Breshke to go 1 v 1 and either take the loss and do nothing or just try to take that person down.

However Breshke asks rit not to use it so that he can do work. This is pretty town oriented to me it forces him to do more work looking at multiple people. It forces the rest of the game to take stances on all three rather than a 50-50.
I like this thought of mine.

On February 25 2016 00:06 Damdred wrote:
I think you misunderstood my point about breshke rels. The question wasn't whether we should use the 50/50 or not but breshke said don't insta use it which forces him to do work on both.

Which is town to me because the 50/50 will still be used and it will still be 1 v 1 with two people. It does force breshke to do the work before rit uses it.

As for my read on ls, I think he is town here. He might not be as talkative, but he's putting in ok work finding things (ff forgotten mafia game) so he's not as lazy mafia ls. He sounded somewhat upset me suggesting putting his cell first so he's not roll over ls to some degree. And he didn't just blindly sheep my thoughts initially on Darth.

And why I wanted him first I didn't have a read on him and the pressure+50/50 would of made him crack towards town or roll over I think.

Ok So damdred gets town feels off of Breshke, and tries to convince the thread (successfully a bit) to make him think his team mate, Breshke is town. And if we are tinfoiling that LS is scum, it is even more see able.
On February 24 2016 10:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 09:41 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure that's true Breshke, if you exclude him for tone do you think any other tonal things in his openers or how he posts line up? Even if the circumstances are different we still have some of the same tells.

@LS , what do you think of the point I made about Breshke thinking about the 50/50? And who are you scum leaningok atm?

I think I can see it more from a town perspective than scum because as scum eh would want ritoky to use the 50-50 but as town he would not ask him to do the 50-50 at least that what I think. I currently scrtatching my head at VA because he haven't really posted much reason at all why he voted kush for mayor honestly. Breshke is trying to do some work at least for now and FF have done more stuff than VA at this point. What your scum in that Cell?

So we have a scum team trying to get sus. off of there team mate. Note that Damdred does very little to sus. breshke.
On February 25 2016 03:48 Damdred wrote:
I don't think its anything to be scared about, there's nothing wrong with putting pressure on breshke here see if he rolls over.

If he starts spamming town rainbows we can reevaluate.

But since there's not much to go on until he does its probably best to look at next cell.

Sl what do you think ?

Translation: Let me find a way to put my vote on my buddy early on so I can not look sus. And instead of taking a break and looking at other people, let me move on to the next cell. So basically Damdred is moving attention off of Breshke, while putting down a vote to not look sus or to stand out. Like it is basically no reasoning other than pressure for that vote. It is a safety measure for damdred or for that matter any scum.
On February 25 2016 13:10 Damdred wrote:
I sort of have to lynch breshke here for promising to do things without actually doing them. I mean my initial thought was good I think but the total lack of anything completely negates it.

VA trying to do anything beyond his cell is also probably a town tell at this juncture.

Honestly it sorta is policy almost at this point. VA has done slightly more if even giving reads. Plus another good point someone said earlier about ignoring scum Bayne to focus on town ff. While I think there is a town reason to do it totally lacked in anything besides an I itial idea.

Anf no wonder we were confused hehe.

Then he says oh well basically in this post.


This is just 1 thing wrong IMO. Only thing that gives me pause is. well Lets say the team is Breshke/LS/BUM/Damdred/SL. Everyone scum reads Breshke and Bum at the beginning and he failed to defended Breshke. They are pretty sure LS will win. And pretty much know that bum is going to die. So they are going to try to go to cell A with SL. Who's performance is not that sealer. Maybe Damdred would focus on kura (has done so slightly) but that is a stretch.

Anyways I will be trying to post more stuff later
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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