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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 16 2016 01:22 GMT
#201
Because that doesn't matter?

Like, Eden's statement is of minimal significance, and even less relevance.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 16 2016 01:27 GMT
#202
I want to replies, but I also want to see Eden's defense. So I shall move on right now Trofl and come back to this after she posts.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
February 16 2016 01:30 GMT
#203
Unless a course you want to give her a free pass by me providing defense for her. Which is dumb IMO but what ever.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 01:39 GMT
#204
On February 16 2016 10:10 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 09:51 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:04 sicklucker wrote:
I think eden is scum for posting setup speculation and im happy others do too =]

Why do you think posting setup speculation is suspicious?


I want to know it when im mafia . when im town I do not care

Want to know what? You're not making any sense.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 01:40 GMT
#205
On February 16 2016 10:12 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 09:44 Shapelog wrote:
See Trofl you did not answer my question :/... This is why i cannot share my nice logic/reads with you.
You posted a question?

Oh, I thought it was rhetorical.

I obviously disagree. Power roles can play their own roles, they don't need someone to direct them. The point isn't the setup speculation, that's not alignment indicative. I can't see how Eden as town could care so much about his setup speculation and not care about anything else.

Where do you get the impression that I "care so much about [my] setup speculation and not care about anything else"? I wouldn't characterize my play that way at all, and I don't understand why you do, either.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 01:45 GMT
#206
On February 16 2016 10:02 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 09:53 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:48 Tictock wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:27 Shapelog wrote:
On February 16 2016 09:17 Trfel wrote:
Shapelog, why do you not care that I caught mafia

I am actually writing a reply to your questions Lol.

But about Eden, tbh not a whole lot to go off of (I mean like 4 posts not counting the miller softclaim joke).

In those two posts: Set up speculation, Rosukl Town read, Asking if people abject to Miller claiming, Miller claiming.

Like why would mafia push Miller claiming AND while speculating that a DT is in a game?


This is pretty much what I've been thinking as well.

If anyone cares...
+ Show Spoiler [Post I liked] +
On February 16 2016 08:55 Trfel wrote:
I would really like to know what Palmar finds suspicious about Breshke, I'm not seeing anything near a 100% suspicion. That said, Breshke...

What do you think about sicklucker so far? Particularly his first post, since it drew a lot of attention, but you didn't comment on it.

Anyway, I do feel that Palmar is very likely to be town because of meta. As mafia, Palmar doesn't push people in this way. And yes, I still feel comfortable with this read even before seeing the reasons or the followup.

This is a really towny post IMO. Trfel is throwing out an odd townread on someone who is kinda playing like lynchbait (and even backs up the meta-read fairly well in a followup post) while questioning their reads and trying to get further reaction from Bre.


Cool, that's like 4 townreads right there.

Ezy Game.

Which is the fourth? (presuming you're referring to me/Trfel/Shapelog based on your post for three of them)


Palmar, though I'm mostly trusting in Trfel's meta read on him. Personally I was holding off trying to read Palmar till he'd posted more.

ah okay. So it's really three town reads and a trust-Trfel's-townreading read? That's reasonable enough I guess.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2016 01:53 GMT
#207
pues, procrastination station lol ><

nh, truffle wuffle, i has a problem with youse...namely, that you seem to be dropping reads instead of inviting comments on reads, which makes me antsy

also, idk about palmar. every time i think i've got a good read on him he throws me off the scent @.@ not sure how you think you have a meta read on him. explain it more?

the eden point on leaving an out to withdraw his read isn't a bad one, though tbf i can easily see a town eden believing that, too, cause it has been a year lol >< also this reminds me of a certain ooooother game where he focused on the same things

<3s the rsoul's favorite devil's advocate

for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 16 2016 01:56 GMT
#208
Ok I was writting a post about how I sorta agreed that Trfel might have a point about Eden disengaging, got distracted by the offering of soup, then come back to find Eden posting.

So I'm just gunna take that as a sign that it's time to take a break, and hopefully have more to read after my Raid.

Oh also there was some thought about how almost everyone has posted (everyone but GB, impressive) but there has been no miller claims. So I think it's a safe assumption there are none?
I can take that responsibility.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2016 01:57 GMT
#209
-bounces-

that's right lol forgot ^^ no problem with millers claiming
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 02:11 GMT
#210
On February 16 2016 10:56 Tictock wrote:
Ok I was writting a post about how I sorta agreed that Trfel might have a point about Eden disengaging, got distracted by the offering of soup, then come back to find Eden posting.

So I'm just gunna take that as a sign that it's time to take a break, and hopefully have more to read after my Raid.

Oh also there was some thought about how almost everyone has posted (everyone but GB, impressive) but there has been no miller claims. So I think it's a safe assumption there are none?

Trfel wouldn't have a point even if I hadn't come back and posted more. He claimed that I was "disengaged" from the thread because I only gave one clear read within the first few hours of day 1, in a thread where very few people, in my estimation, have done anything alignment-indicative.

Frankly, his accusation sucks. I had a very clear direction with my early posting: as I always do, I analyzed what we knew of the setup and set about trying to construct the best game state for us by proposing that millers claim, for reasons already explained. Everyone that's bothered to chime in directly on the idea itself so far has said it is a good idea. Trfel ignored the proposal and misrepresented my posting as being overly focused on setup at the expense of giving reads, at a point in the game where reads worth sharing are hard to come by.


I had some more stuff to develop the lack of miller claims (on the assumption there won't be any, running with your suggestion), but I doubt that information helps town (it's either incorrect or it possibly contributes to mafia planning how to play around town PRs), so I'm not going to discuss it.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 02:14 GMT
#211
On February 16 2016 10:53 rsoultin wrote:
for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah

I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2016 02:17 GMT
#212
On February 16 2016 11:14 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 10:53 rsoultin wrote:
for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah

I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town?


i don't see that it makes him town

i do see that, regardless of his alignment, it prob was in response to truffle's post, especially since he then went on to get reads from people's reactions
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 02:21 GMT
#213
On February 16 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 11:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 16 2016 10:53 rsoultin wrote:
for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah

I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town?


i don't see that it makes him town

i do see that, regardless of his alignment, it prob was in response to truffle's post, especially since he then went on to get reads from people's reactions

Never mind, I went back and reread Trfel's initial post, and my interpretation of what you were proposing doesn't make sense // isn't very useful/relevant.

With that said, what is sicklucker's alignment?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 16 2016 02:23 GMT
#214
How could she know?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 16 2016 02:24 GMT
#215
I mean I dont even know...
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 16 2016 02:24 GMT
#216
On February 16 2016 11:23 sicklucker wrote:
How could she know?

Instead of worrying about that, why don't you go clarify what you said to me earlier? I still don't understand what you were trying to say about setup spec being suspicious.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 16 2016 02:24 GMT
#217
+ Show Spoiler +
thats not true I read my role pm today im not sure why I said that trolol;p;
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
February 16 2016 02:25 GMT
#218
It was plain english. Towns dont really care about that stuff they want to find scum. Power roles especially wont bring it up in thread. Mafia needs things to talk about so they sure will
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2016 02:26 GMT
#219
On February 16 2016 11:21 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote:
On February 16 2016 11:14 Eden1892 wrote:
On February 16 2016 10:53 rsoultin wrote:
for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah

I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town?


i don't see that it makes him town

i do see that, regardless of his alignment, it prob was in response to truffle's post, especially since he then went on to get reads from people's reactions

Never mind, I went back and reread Trfel's initial post, and my interpretation of what you were proposing doesn't make sense // isn't very useful/relevant.

With that said, what is sicklucker's alignment?


lol how the fuck should i know? xP

assuming i'm even still around late-game (lol ><) i'll catch him by poe, if at all, if he's scum

the point was there was nothing alignment-indicative about his diary posts ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
February 16 2016 02:27 GMT
#220
On February 16 2016 11:25 sicklucker wrote:
It was plain english. Towns dont really care about that stuff they want to find scum. Power roles especially wont bring it up in thread. Mafia needs things to talk about so they sure will


-pokes-

and if i said he's done almost the exact same thing in a prior town game? would you drop it, or do you have other reasons to scumread him?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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