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On February 08 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 20:12 marvellosity wrote:Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff. Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline. That's a conscious decision. A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence. 'splain? I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting. I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course).
what about the rest of literally the whole of Friday that you gave no warning at all you'd be absent for?
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On February 08 2016 20:16 Rels wrote:
BTW I think you have 0 chance of making me change my vote now that I've seen the level of tryhardness you did in outlaw to escape the lynch.
do you know where in his filter this happened? I'm not sure i can be bothered to trawl through page after page looking for it
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On February 08 2016 20:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:On February 08 2016 20:12 marvellosity wrote:Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff. Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline. That's a conscious decision. A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence. 'splain? I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting. I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course). what about the rest of literally the whole of Friday that you gave no warning at all you'd be absent for? I did not intend to be absent (I actually went into this game, having a shadow and all, decidedly wanting to sort of try to do a bit of leadership again.). I guess I could've popped in to say I would be busy, but I just didn't. Do you think that if I had done that anything would've changed? I sort of doubt it. Do you think I'm more likely to go absent as mafia? (I of course don't know, but I THINK that I'm more likely to go afk as town).
you asked for reasons and i literally talked about this in the quote i gave 
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On November 29 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:
Whoever started a mafia game on thanksgiving should be shot.
I'm out for tonight, I have a work-christmas-dinner-getdrunk-thing.
Just in case I actually get lynched. I haven't read much of the game so not too many reads I can give you. I actually feel fairly okay with thinking Superbia is town based on what I posted already. Don't disregard that evidence just because you think it's sorta dumb or weak.
Idk about marv, I kinda actually think I understand why he thinks I'm mafia, which makes him probably town. I've spent very little time on the game and he probably wants me to do other stuff, like read his posts. Then again, I'm sort of an easy target at the moment.
If marv is town, rayn is probably town too, in fact, it's extremely likely that most of marv's reads are correct, no matter his own alignment, because he's usually not blatantly wrong when he's mafia, just wrong enough not to lynch his entire team.
See you guys.
Pls no lynch.
this is from one of your afk-mafia games, which do exist.
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On February 08 2016 20:25 Palmar wrote:
I also did not really notice any significant pressure on me on thursday, maybe that's a wrong impression on my part but mostly it was some prodding by marv and jat which isn't unusual at all.
Sad jat died. To me he was basically confirmed town (there's no way scum jat would not want to get rid of me day 1).
So I should also be confirmed town to you, yes?
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On February 08 2016 20:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2016 20:27 marvellosity wrote:On February 08 2016 20:25 Palmar wrote:
I also did not really notice any significant pressure on me on thursday, maybe that's a wrong impression on my part but mostly it was some prodding by marv and jat which isn't unusual at all.
Sad jat died. To me he was basically confirmed town (there's no way scum jat would not want to get rid of me day 1). So I should also be confirmed town to you, yes? I think you're town, but confirmed?
if jat was almost confirmed town to you for switching when scumjat would be scared of you, then the exact same argument should apply to me, no?
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okay. you should understand why i'm forcing you into this read
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On February 08 2016 20:40 Palmar wrote:
It's sort of weird that sometimes as town under pressure you start thinking like mafia. I definitely considered faking ignorance of the fact jat had flipped to "look more town" by giving a read on him.
yes, this is actually true. I do stuff like that too :>
here's the thing Palmar - there's no way you're going to be able to convince the thread so far, based on your play and the timing of your post + vote on day 1, that you are not mafia.
Because if you were checking the thread to know that I'd unvoted you 50m before the deadline, you should have placed your vote there and then, rather than waiting to the last minute. You did it 1 minute before deadline.
I think, as town, you would be saying you should be lynched for that alone.
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getting lynched day 1 as mafia after that is shitty too.
tldr: you can't prove you're town, you need to find a better target somehow
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On February 08 2016 20:50 Palmar wrote:
Yeah I might try that, but it's gonna take a while
You see, town Palmar doesn't just make up reads in a game he has barely read.
well I hope our undisputed king shows us why he is the king 
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On February 09 2016 00:05 VayneAuthority wrote:yea his filter is already 12 pages, so probably. But never hurts to start preparing for lategame, I dont foresee me or him dying anytime soon.
he'll still be 100% town then too, 100% is 100%
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On February 09 2016 00:14 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 09 2016 00:04 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 08 2016 23:54 nooniansoong wrote:On February 08 2016 23:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only question I have for Palmar is why was he clearly here and chose to just lurk the thread and vote at the last second, who does that as town he already explained this right? he was playing board games with the fam. That doesn't really explain anything though. I can handle afking this long since ive had to do the same once in a while but I've never seen some one that wasn't scum do a last minute vote like that to save himself after afking lol. and ive seen quite a few of them when playing board games with the fam you want to spend a minimal amount of time looking at your phone.
the point is he was clearly following the game to some extent, but only chose to both post and vote in the last minute
it's a simple thing to grasp.
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8 pages for Koshi pretty few by this point.
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like i mentioned before, the most worrying thing about koshi for me is that i don't have a 100% (or near) townread on him.
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On February 09 2016 00:52 Rels wrote:
NM you're actually extremely aggressive, I have no idea if it's usual for you or not but it's surprising at least.
mmm. Have my own tinfoils regarding this but i tend to keep them to myself until i decide they might not actually be tinfoils.
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On February 09 2016 01:19 disformation wrote:
NM can be pretty emotional. Not sure if that is AI for him though.
In Dark Tournament town!NM was pretty emotionally invested in lynching scum!HtS and later went pretty close to yelling at town!Trfel and going on tilt over that.
Sample size is too small to verify if he does so as scum too.
thanks, i've only read a few of NM's posts scattered across a couple of games and didn't realise this was the case, so it's actually quite helpful
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yeah okay.
that means i don't even have my tinfoil on NM anymore. Dude is extremely likely town on a Palmar mafia flip and still very likely town on a Palmar town flip.
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just as a heads up also, i have a chess match this evening, although it should be done before the flip
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On February 09 2016 02:11 Rels wrote:
Chez is scum. Chez plays to win even if he flavors his posts. This is a play, he is like "See I'm not voting the obvious guy I should be voting, I'm so scummy I can't be scum!"
inclined to agree with everything here
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