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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 22:43 GMT
#1358
And Koshi just switched to zyrre.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 22:54 GMT
#1378
zyrre still leading cos he got to 7 first.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 22:56 GMT
#1384
On February 06 2016 07:56 nooniansoong wrote:
But I'm on my phone so I cbs to change me vote lol

dafuq?!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 22:57 GMT
#1389
Already voting Palmar.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 22:58 GMT
#1390
Damdy for the rescue!
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 23:13 GMT
#1402
JAT why did you switch votes?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 23:16 GMT
#1417
Great. Now I literally trust no one in this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 05 2016 23:19 GMT
#1423
On February 06 2016 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 08:16 disformation wrote:
Great. Now I literally trust no one in this game.

If you think I would push Palmar all game and fight all day to build his wagon and then jump off at the last second like this to make me look as shit as possible as Palmars scumbuddy then you are literally insane.

Me being insane is not outside the bounds of what is possible.
Probably going to work on a huge wall post, cu all later.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:05 GMT
#1433
Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Damdred, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky boxerfred, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu
VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy
nooniansoong (0): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels, boxerfred
NocturneMage (0),disformation disformation
ritoky (0): boxerfred, Chezinu,
Onegu (0):, nooniansoong
Disformation (0): Chezinu,Chezinu
MoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoong

initial look at reasons for votes:

darthfoley
  1. Mentions being most confident in voting zyrre. Has scum read on zyrre, but never fully explained why.
  2. "I am not even sure that Palmar is town."
  3. Does nothing to push Zyrre, but mentions that he doesn't like the Palmar wagon multiple times.


nooniansong
  1. Waffly read progression on zyrre. votes zyrre.
  2. "dude im here im just not prepared to give to effort to convince people that palmar is town, nor am i very sure of it."
  3. "I like that post from zyrre" + "But I'm on my phone so I cbs to change me vote lol"


chezinu
  1. randomly votes zyrre


boxerfred
  1. "Wow, didn't realize so many were on Palmar, although noone can tell really why he's scum."
  2. votes palmar <- probably sarcastically
  3. votes zyrre


marv
  1. has a decent scum read on Palmar and votes for him all day
  2. chickens out and votes Zyrre, close to DL


Koshi
  1. "Fuck I need to go........ I disagree with this lynch 100%"
  2. very next post: "Palmar is ok if marv/jat want it."
  3. very next post: wants to lynch zyrre
  4. "Voted zyrre. Way better lynch than palmar."


Palmar
  1. MIA all day, shows up last second to save his ass


VA
  1. afk parks his vote on palmar all day for a dubious reason
  2. no real read on zyrre


NocturneMage
  1. pushing palmar, defending zyrre all day


Rels
  1. Calls both Zyrre and Palmar scum. Decides to vote Palmar over Zyrree, cause?
  2. Doesn't really push either


disformation
  1. can someone pls vig shot that annoying flower?


ritoky
  1. sits on a no vote for ages
  2. has some strange post about hammers, votes Palmar


MoosyDoosy
  1. useless outlier vote


ppl who I do not really like of this and have a good chance of being scum for this: darthfoley, chezinu, marv, palmar, va, rels, ritoky, moosydoosy

need to look at jat and damdred, but I need a break.
I realize that this is a very crude attempt at vca, but tons of ppls and filters and timings to look at. Will try to complete and refine this during the night phase.
Maybe I can at least inspire some ppl of you to look at some of this stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:07 GMT
#1434
Also forgot Onegu. Same as MoosyDoosy for him.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:12 GMT
#1435
Actually I kinda like nobody in this game right now. NM, JAT and Damdy should be town. Rest can be scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:27 GMT
#1436
On February 06 2016 07:51 Zyrre wrote:
Will post some stuff in case I die.

Noon still slightly scummy. He posted nothing at first, then posted a whole lot of nothing. Then said I was town -> null -> voted on me(basically no other reads on anyone else). So, IF palmar is mafia noon is def very scummy.

marv might be playing super well mafia as he posted some on palmar but then posted a quite dubios comparison with a game from 3 years ago and switched to me.

Also people switching without writing any reason, chez koshi, seems very suspicous.

also we should maybe honour the dead and look at some of these.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:31 GMT
#1437
Actually... why am I asking ppl to look at stuff when I trust no one?
FML.
Probably takinga rbeak and going to sleep. starting tog et a headache thinking about this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:33 GMT
#1438
my tinfoil dreamteam is like MD, Chez, Onegu +1 btw...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:41 GMT
#1440
On February 06 2016 09:37 darthfoley wrote:
@disformation

Uh, I didn't push the Zyrre wagon at all? It was 8 votes Palmar to 1 vote Zyrre when I expressed my concern with how easy Palmar was getting lynched and why I was concerned. I was rather vocal about Zyrre and asked people uncomfortable with lynching Palmar D1 to come to my wagon. Not sure what you mean by this...

I did flesh out my reasoning for being most confident in Zyrre which you can read in my filter. You might not consider them good reasons, but I had been suspicious of Zyrre throughout D1, plus people like Rels, who I have town read drew similar conclusions.



You're going to have to do better if you want to suggest this vote gives me a good chance of being scum. I am more curious about who jumped on the Zyrre wagon, and when.

No. I have 0 clue. why you scum read zyrre after reading your filter, outside you not liking his first post.
And yes you didn't push that wagon at all. You were deflecting ppl OFF palmar.

but yes this vca is currently in a very crude state.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 00:48 GMT
#1441
Hmm... I think in my update of the VCA I will focus on ppl on the Zyrre train. Sounds like a good idea to make the workload manageable and I am pretty sure there are scummers on there.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 12:11 GMT
#1467
On February 06 2016 17:01 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:23 boxerfred wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:19 boxerfred wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

Can we lynch this guy? He's not contributing, just derailing the thread, and there's no need for someone like this to survive a day where chances to hit scum are the lowest anyways.

Why him and not Kush, Onegu or Moosy?

He's actively derailing the thread. Reactions to his posts are pure bullshit and do not help. Basically "doing nothing" (Onegu, MD) vs. "actively derailing town and doing nothing else" (Chezinu)

aaaand boxer still can't read me lolol @_@

You think you're a cool kid because after three games of mafia, you go down the unreadable road, right? Lol. ##vote MoosyDoosy locked until you're dead.

I think he is striving to be unreadable since his very first game. Usually gets a bit better D2 or so.

On February 06 2016 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
I highly recommend shooting palmar if we have a vig so that we can see his alignment during tomorrows lynch. A lot of delicious data to analyze regardless of his flip

yes, any vigi if he exists must must must must must must must shoot Palmar.

must * 100 billion trillion. He's very likely mafia and even if he isn't, we just need to know, and we need to know now.

disfo: I don't know what drugs you're on - my support for a Palmar lynch essentially gave legitimacy to the whole wagon (see attitudes of jat/damdred for example). If you think I help create the wagon on Palmar by pushing the idea he's mafia only to jump off it at the end, you are literally insane.

Not 100% sure I like these "even if he is town" reasons you and VA gave, but I can still agree to the rest and while I would shoot like 16/16 ppl in the game, Palmar is the first and best choice.

Well, having a huge hand in creating the Palmar wagon and then dropping it like it is hot is exactly what you did.

But yes I am insane. Currently suffering from a great bout of paranoia and living in a world where everyone is scum.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 12:17 GMT
#1472
On February 06 2016 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Doesn't matter if you like the reasons tbh.

Eh. Meant more like reasoning. Bah I probably just really suck at what I am trying to communicate here.
Lemme try again:
I am not a huge fan of the "even if he is town" line of thinking, cause we really should try to shoot scum here imo.

That being said I agree that Palmar is like 99% scum here, and THAT is a very very good reason to shoot him. So I agree with that shot.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 12:21 GMT
#1473
On February 06 2016 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 21:11 disformation wrote:
On February 06 2016 17:01 boxerfred wrote:
On February 06 2016 10:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:23 boxerfred wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:19 boxerfred wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
[quote]

Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

[quote]
hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
[quote]
Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

Can we lynch this guy? He's not contributing, just derailing the thread, and there's no need for someone like this to survive a day where chances to hit scum are the lowest anyways.

Why him and not Kush, Onegu or Moosy?

He's actively derailing the thread. Reactions to his posts are pure bullshit and do not help. Basically "doing nothing" (Onegu, MD) vs. "actively derailing town and doing nothing else" (Chezinu)

aaaand boxer still can't read me lolol @_@

You think you're a cool kid because after three games of mafia, you go down the unreadable road, right? Lol. ##vote MoosyDoosy locked until you're dead.

I think he is striving to be unreadable since his very first game. Usually gets a bit better D2 or so.

On February 06 2016 21:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 06 2016 12:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
I highly recommend shooting palmar if we have a vig so that we can see his alignment during tomorrows lynch. A lot of delicious data to analyze regardless of his flip

yes, any vigi if he exists must must must must must must must shoot Palmar.

must * 100 billion trillion. He's very likely mafia and even if he isn't, we just need to know, and we need to know now.

disfo: I don't know what drugs you're on - my support for a Palmar lynch essentially gave legitimacy to the whole wagon (see attitudes of jat/damdred for example). If you think I help create the wagon on Palmar by pushing the idea he's mafia only to jump off it at the end, you are literally insane.

Not 100% sure I like these "even if he is town" reasons you and VA gave, but I can still agree to the rest and while I would shoot like 16/16 ppl in the game, Palmar is the first and best choice.

Well, having a huge hand in creating the Palmar wagon and then dropping it like it is hot is exactly what you did.

But yes I am insane. Currently suffering from a great bout of paranoia and living in a world where everyone is scum.

What I mean is, it's just a nonsensical moronic play for me as mafia, as I can shut down the palmar wagon virtually single handedly if I wanted.

You should be able to grasp this

Fair point. TBH my attempt at that vca was very ham handed, or bad. Whatever you call it, really. Partly due to me being frustrated from the D1 outcome.
Also again failing to see the motivation and goals behind posts and only seeing "wat why did he unvote".

Sry, my play is pretty disgusting this game, even for my standards.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
February 06 2016 12:40 GMT
#1479
Yeah, if Palmar is not scum, we need to look at all the timings/reasons for both wagons.
Not sure how you even got on tilt boxer.

Anyway, heading out for the afternoon. Will be back later. And hopefully be a bit calmed down and less paranoid.

Inb4 it is really something stupid like my chez,md,onegu +1 tinfoil.
Chez's vote on Zyrre stands out a lot incidentally. The thing is: not 100% sure if that is AI for chez or not. xD
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