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On February 06 2016 06:17 boxerfred wrote: If you really don't understand that I am not happy with a Palmar lynch, you're scum then disformation
Why couldn't town feel the same way? Why is it exclusively scum?
And what do you think about ritoky's arguments re: Koshi? (There are two no-voters)
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On February 06 2016 06:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 06:14 NocturneMage wrote:On February 06 2016 06:10 disformation wrote:On February 06 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:On February 06 2016 06:03 disformation wrote: Is it just me or did a bunch of ppl gtfo of the thread as soon as Palmar hit a lot votes? -.- For example? And what does this tell you if true? zyrre, boxer, ritoky, noon Tells me that apparently all the ppl are pretty with where their vote is or they do not care. Which makes me nervous. Also what about the people who are off wagon? Noon is off wagon. And I don't see ritoky really trying to get another wagon going at all. Koshi is not a realistic wagon and he knows that himself. Or which one are you talking about? Boxer is continuing to act extremely erratic and weird.
Didn't mean just noon but most of the people off wagon, save maybe darthfoley. I mean Palmar's had his vote on you all cycle. And boxerfred, like I don't even.
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On February 06 2016 06:19 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 06:16 NocturneMage wrote:On February 06 2016 06:11 Chezinu wrote: ##unvote ##vote Zyrre Explain in your own words? For Zyrre!
Good lord. I don't see anything about you in his filter, I don't even.
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I have never played with Chezinu, does he ALWAYS play like this?
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On February 06 2016 06:27 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 06:26 NocturneMage wrote: I have never played with Chezinu, does he ALWAYS play like this? Define "this" I'm the most unreadable mafia player on teamliquid.
As in the way you are playing now, but I see a few others have given explanations on how to interpret you a bit more.
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100% lynch needs to be Palmar. There has been plenty of weeding out and counterreasons given against the Palmar is lazy argument, etc.
I'd lynch Palmar and investigate Zyrre - current wagon also gives us information on the most likely towns.
I don't know why Zyrre isn't back yet though with 1h but I'm not changing my vote. I am confident my vote is on mafia.
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On February 06 2016 06:58 justanothertownie wrote: And why the fuck would "the best town player" allow his lynch so easily and wouldn't as mafia? Makes 0 sense.
This.
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On February 06 2016 07:13 darthfoley wrote: I am not even sure that Palmar is town. I just don't like the feel this vote has. Has there really been push back though? Ritoky faintly threw out the idea of a potential Koshi lynch, but that hasn't gone anywhere. Many people have brought up Zyrre as very suspicious and supremely shallow compared to some town games (albeit from a while ago), yet I was the only person to have voted on him until Kush switched recently.
To be clear, I don't think the Palmar vote is the worst thing in the world, but 8 votes with no counter wagon indicates to me that either
1) He's town and mafia are pushing/seconding the narrative 2) He's mafia and his mafia team is bussing him D1 by either voting for him, or not really starting any other wagon... which seems very counterproductive as mafia. You aren't gonna get that much town cred if 10 people vote for him and he flips town, and you'll look sus if you just park your vote and give no input.
On the other hand, I'm not sure that Zyrre has had one original thought all game. His entrance reads post seems super newbie mafia who skim thread, copy thread sentiment and add a few anecdotes here and there. Then he jumps on the Palmar train for meh reasoning that other people have already trotted out
Not exclusively scummy. I'll repeat the same thing I same to Rels/disformation, there is a town motivation for it. I mentioned it earlier in the thread.
Voting I understand can make people nervous but I trust most people on the wagon, I have a degree of townreads on everyone except VA and Zyrre.
Also Darthfoley, the mafia motivation for bussing d1 is a load of cred you may not have had. The cred may be applied depending on how early or late the votes came in.
Another town trait is knowing whom to sheep btw - ironically that's something even Palmar mentioned in his town games, so I digress. Anyhow, town doesn't care about cred (ego aside) they just want to find mafia.
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There are two no-votes from what I can tell.
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If you are willing to vote both Zyrre and Palmar, please vote the latter.
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EBWOP - ritoky and Damdred, vote Palmar.
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ritoky still hasn't voted.
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On February 06 2016 07:34 Zyrre wrote: Cant a guy play some dota without getting lynched?
Darth, I agree it seemed a bit odd with no pushback to Palmar. However now there is and some are voting for me instead.
You say you want to lynch palmar day 2. Surely if he is this afk it would be easier to read me day2 to determine if I was mafia than if he keeps not posting?
Could you answer my questions? I'll repost them for ease...
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On February 06 2016 05:45 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 04:58 Zyrre wrote: I really have no idea about noon, but at least he has posted some reads and is posting now. Rather neutral at the moment.
I obviously dont know about Palmers meta, but I feel like his early statement: "This game is going to be painful because I'm going to obsess about finding the "superbia" mafia and never give anyone a townread ever."
Seems like possible scum play. He has posted almost no suspicions, and if he doesnt townread anyone he can always jump on votes for whoever is getting lynched atm. I'm back. Can you elaborate further on the quality of the reads from both now that you've voted him? How about the players (ignore anyone you've already given a read on) on each of those wagons? Separately from this, can you also confirm how much forum mafia experience you have had besides the one themed game here?
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On February 06 2016 07:35 disformation wrote: yeah, was about to point out that ritoky gets to decide the lynch at this point.
I'm reading him town so that's a good thing.
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Zyrre, are you aware of why you're getting lynched? (given what I understand of your experience)
See it from our perspective if you are town, and if you are town, you probably should be dropping a few more reads.
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On February 06 2016 07:38 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 06 2016 07:34 Zyrre wrote: Cant a guy play some dota without getting lynched?
Darth, I agree it seemed a bit odd with no pushback to Palmar. However now there is and some are voting for me instead.
You say you want to lynch palmar day 2. Surely if he is this afk it would be easier to read me day2 to determine if I was mafia than if he keeps not posting?
The chance that Palmar keeps quiet day2 are next to 0. He either posts and is towny or he gets lynched. And in the extreme case of 0 posts and no vote he would be replaced. Unless of course he is mafia, kills the people who are suspicious of him before that and the rest starts derping.
I know he wasn't close to the lynch in Outlaw day 1, but regarding how those suspicious of him died off...
Just saying.
And yeah the point is here, people know Palmar, but my fear is he is too good a player, let him off the hook like this...
Damdred if you think both are mafia you should be voting Palmar honestly. Why would you think he wouldn't try to WIFOM if he should be so?
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And ninjaed again.
On February 06 2016 07:40 Damdred wrote: Psh I won't let palmar go this time
Don't. This is my fear. Don't let him off the hook.
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Onegu is policy lynch category for me.
And Koshi's vote is way the hell more scummy, if not for the reasoning alone. Goddamnit.
Yeah I've been suspicious of Koshi but come on guys.
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SOMEONE HAMMER PALMAR PLEASE!!!!!
I WILL SACRIFICE MYSELF IF HE IS TOWN!!!!!!!
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