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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 05 2016 22:59 GMT
#1398
i thought i was safe, sorry

gg
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 05 2016 23:16 GMT
#1414
jesus fuck im seriously not mafia guys
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 05 2016 23:19 GMT
#1421
i will need to be in front of a computer to make this argument and i wont be tonight so good night.

i really am not mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 06 2016 17:30 GMT
#1495
I'm not going to hang around. The "can't play on weekends thing" is actually real, I don't just fake it when convenient. I am barely going to be even glancing at my phone tonight, (just like last night).

It's probably mechanically the right play to shoot me, although of course I'd like to not die, and there are personal/palmar-specific reasons to not shoot me.

Essentially, I'm basically just hoping there isn't a vigi so I can get the day to argue. Or, alternatively, the vigi is some kind of a Palmar whisperer that knows my play yesterday is probably not mafia Palmar (I am much more likely to try my hardest to find time to play or just post when mafia, because I feel like I have an obligation to my team). If there is a vigi and he shoots me, then so be it, fair enough.

If I survive I promise to not make it a wasted auto-lynch day (those suck for town, and are the reason that it's mechanically the right play to shoot me. Auto lynches mean like 72hours of barely any discussion and it kills town interest very fast, especially are they bad when they end in a disappointing town flip that gives you no information). I will argue for my life and make people explain things to me.

A part of me really wants to not die, because this "Palmar against the world" scenario that's going to happen tomorrow is certainly going to be exciting (and exhausting). I do love when everything is about me

If I die, good luck guys. I'm not really up to date enough to dump any reads for you. What I wrote on early day 1 is probably more relevant whan whatever I may think now.

So yeah, see you tomorrow, hopefully.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 07 2016 11:32 GMT
#1659
Still not mafia, still busy
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 07 2016 18:47 GMT
#1789
Friendly reminder that I am not mafia
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:10 GMT
#1909
Morning guys, let's talk.

First person up should really just explain why he personally thinks I'm mafia. I'll probably also try to write a few words about why I'm not.

I am very behind this game, so I will probably focus more on why I'm not mafia than figuring out who is mafia (although it's not unlikely the two might end up going hand in hand). There's a bunch of people (everyone but me) who isn't set to be killed today, so I'd expect those people to do the scumhunty stuff.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:17 GMT
#1914
On February 08 2016 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.


Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline.

That's a conscious decision.

A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence.

'splain?

I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting.

I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:23 GMT
#1918
On February 08 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:
On February 08 2016 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.


Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline.

That's a conscious decision.

A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence.

'splain?

I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting.

I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course).

what about the rest of literally the whole of Friday that you gave no warning at all you'd be absent for?


I did not intend to be absent (I actually went into this game, having a shadow and all, decidedly wanting to sort of try to do a bit of leadership again.). I guess I could've popped in to say I would be busy, but I just didn't. Do you think that if I had done that anything would've changed? I sort of doubt it. Do you think I'm more likely to go absent as mafia? (I of course don't know, but I THINK that I'm more likely to go afk as town).

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:25 GMT
#1920
I also did not really notice any significant pressure on me on thursday, maybe that's a wrong impression on my part but mostly it was some prodding by marv and jat which isn't unusual at all.

Sad jat died. To me he was basically confirmed town (there's no way scum jat would not want to get rid of me day 1).
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:31 GMT
#1923
On February 08 2016 20:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 08 2016 20:25 Palmar wrote:
I also did not really notice any significant pressure on me on thursday, maybe that's a wrong impression on my part but mostly it was some prodding by marv and jat which isn't unusual at all.

Sad jat died. To me he was basically confirmed town (there's no way scum jat would not want to get rid of me day 1).

So I should also be confirmed town to you, yes?

I think you're town, but confirmed?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:32 GMT
#1925
oh I get it, because you moved your vote.

Eh... the situation is different. You indirectly saved me, while jat directly did it. It's not a 100% thing but sure. I made an explanation back on day 1 anyway. If you're playing strong scum that doesn't concern me as I will likely be long dead. So I'm, yes, treating you as confirmed town essentially.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:38 GMT
#1927
On February 08 2016 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 20:23 Palmar wrote:
On February 08 2016 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
On February 08 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:
On February 08 2016 20:12 marvellosity wrote:
Palmar - my vote is on him, and he's a decent lynch. Actually I think his absence today is kinda non-admissable, i think as either alignment he'd show up if he could. Not totally sure though. My main issue with Palmar is that he has quite a few posts but none of them are really pushing anything forward or finding mafia. Ironically if his filter was half the size I'd be more inclined to think he was town. If he comes in later while i'm out and makes a case on me, lynch him. Just lynch him. He knows I am town (or should at least feel i am) and would never want to lynch me today, he'd only be doing it to destabilise whatever influence I have on town. And yes he'd do it even after I wrote this. He may come back and look town, which is nice. I'd also note it's not beyond mafia Palmar to afk and hope for the best when he's mafia, even if i do rather think he'd come and try do stuff.


Also, rather importantly, you decided to show up at 1 minute before deadline.

That's a conscious decision.

A decision that you're very much aware of when the deadline is, you're thinking about it, you've come on at that exact time and not half an hour or an hour early to make your apologies for absence.

'splain?

I thought, with you moving your vote off me, I would be safe. I for some reason was almost certain I wouldn't be the lynch. As for real life stuff, I was at the time playing boardgames with my family at my parents' house so I wasn't vigorously checking my phone. I'm actually a bit confused having skimmed over the voting later as to why exactly I figured I was safe, because it's not like I was ever way behind zyrre in the voting.

I actually almost fumbled moving my vote to safe myself on the phone, which I decided to do in any case (I had no idea jat would switch, of course).

what about the rest of literally the whole of Friday that you gave no warning at all you'd be absent for?


I did not intend to be absent (I actually went into this game, having a shadow and all, decidedly wanting to sort of try to do a bit of leadership again.). I guess I could've popped in to say I would be busy, but I just didn't. Do you think that if I had done that anything would've changed? I sort of doubt it. Do you think I'm more likely to go absent as mafia? (I of course don't know, but I THINK that I'm more likely to go afk as town).


you asked for reasons and i literally talked about this in the quote i gave


Oh, I just ignored the quote, I talked about the rest of the post.

I sort of explained it anyway. I haven't gone back to check my filter and confirm, but the main thing is I didn't really find anything to lash onto on day 1. My day 1s are generally helped when I find something to tunnel a bit to see how people react. I didn't really find anything that really sounded scummy on day 1 so I ended up doing more generic things.

The main problem, of course, is I disappeared on friday. And it's fine that people don't like it, I did not intend to do so, but I ended up doing it anyway.

To be honest most of your post just talks about what should happen in case I decided to flip my read on you because reasons. The only accusation is "made a bunch of posts, they don't sound like he's trying to find mafia". Which is really just a feelings thing. I feel like my "force disfo to give shitty reads", my point about how you were treating me (the sassy-marv post), my point about boxerfred (although I think I saw him flip his shit over nothing, which was strange), were all things that were useful towards solving the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:38 GMT
#1928
On February 08 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
okay. you should understand why i'm forcing you into this read

well now that I realized that you wrote a post saying "if palmar comes back and scumreads me, he's mafia" I'm glad that I didn't?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:39 GMT
#1929
On February 08 2016 20:35 marvellosity wrote:
okay. you should understand why i'm forcing you into this read

I guess you have the leverage to do it anyway.

I literally have negative weight this game now. I'm defying gravity
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:40 GMT
#1930
It's sort of weird that sometimes as town under pressure you start thinking like mafia. I definitely considered faking ignorance of the fact jat had flipped to "look more town" by giving a read on him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:41 GMT
#1931
On February 08 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 02:40 Palmar wrote:
Whoever started a mafia game on thanksgiving should be shot.

I'm out for tonight, I have a work-christmas-dinner-getdrunk-thing.

Just in case I actually get lynched. I haven't read much of the game so not too many reads I can give you. I actually feel fairly okay with thinking Superbia is town based on what I posted already. Don't disregard that evidence just because you think it's sorta dumb or weak.

Idk about marv, I kinda actually think I understand why he thinks I'm mafia, which makes him probably town. I've spent very little time on the game and he probably wants me to do other stuff, like read his posts. Then again, I'm sort of an easy target at the moment.

If marv is town, rayn is probably town too, in fact, it's extremely likely that most of marv's reads are correct, no matter his own alignment, because he's usually not blatantly wrong when he's mafia, just wrong enough not to lynch his entire team.

See you guys.

Pls no lynch.


this is from one of your afk-mafia games, which do exist.


100% town on meta

town palmar didn't:

1) excuse himself when afk
2) throw out a bunch of awful reads
3) beg for not being lynched

QED

Can I go home now?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:45 GMT
#1933
On February 08 2016 20:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 20:40 Palmar wrote:
It's sort of weird that sometimes as town under pressure you start thinking like mafia. I definitely considered faking ignorance of the fact jat had flipped to "look more town" by giving a read on him.

yes, this is actually true. I do stuff like that too :>

here's the thing Palmar - there's no way you're going to be able to convince the thread so far, based on your play and the timing of your post + vote on day 1, that you are not mafia.

Because if you were checking the thread to know that I'd unvoted you 50m before the deadline, you should have placed your vote there and then, rather than waiting to the last minute. You did it 1 minute before deadline.

I think, as town, you would be saying you should be lynched for that alone.

I said I should (mechanically) be shot.

And I had no read on zyrre and I couldn't be arsed posting on my phone. I am surprisingly often aware when i'm about to be lynched as town (I was totally around in dark tournament, I was just playing another game).

I ended up making the decision to actually switch my vote because I'm vain and I won #1 power ranks and decided getting lynched day 1 town after that was shitty.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:46 GMT
#1934
And yes, I sort of should be lynched. I'm going to give this a shot but if it doesn't work out I might try to read some filters or I might just enjoy my post-superbowl hangover and let rest of town figure this one out.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
February 08 2016 11:50 GMT
#1936
Yeah I might try that, but it's gonna take a while

You see, town Palmar doesn't just make up reads in a game he has barely read.
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