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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:10 GMT
#309
On February 04 2016 18:55 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 18:47 ritoky wrote:
you don't have time to read the thread, only time to skim a couple pages, but then you have enough time to type a multi-paragraph case on someone? mhmmmm.

i don't even understand your post. why does anything you said make me mafia? especially considering you have 0 context for any of it.

"ritoky interacts with a ton of people"? what does this even mean for a reason? i ask questions and push for reads and thus am mafia? likewat?

I read the thread fully. Maybe the word I use is bad: "skim". I think it means that I've read the thread, however I didn't put too much emphasis on everything but instead concentrated on what feels important to me, which in this case would be the interaction between you and disformation.

How do you not understand my post? here's a tl;dr: you make up reasons to call disfo's post shit. I have all context for it that I need Oo, the context of the interaction.

Regarding the interaction with others: you don't push for reads, you ask random questions to seemingly push for reads imho. You do not follow up, only if you're forced to (as you were when someone asked why you call disfo's post shit). I don't think that's town indicative. Even now you don't reasonably argue why what I say is wrong, instead you say "I dont understand, you lie". The only real argument you say is the last one, and it's a weak one so far.


because i think there is a problem in translation here is why i don't understand it. i called his post bad because it is bad. but bad does not necessitate mafia. it is a poor post regardless of alignment and i am undecided on his alignment partially because it was so bad. here's what his post did in an expanded version:

1) contrary to what a lot of coaches teach these days about keeping the thread updated on when you're leaving, what you're doing, etc; i find that shit to rub me the wrong way and just be a pile of "notice how much extra i care everyone". maybe that's residual shit from when BH owned me by faking he was moving, but it always reads scummy to me.

2) he then says "oh i almost forgot". this implies that the thought he had while in bed on his phone was so important that he had to post from a state of inconvenience in order to notify the thread of what it was. now this is crap already cuz the game is 5 hrs old, but i will entertain it. however he then addresses nocturnemage who hasn't posted at this point with his post......something super important but directed at a person with 0 posts.

3) firstly he is giving NM a free entry into the thread, when mafia often times find entries particularly difficult and you have players like me and like palmar in the game who are quite good at spotting bad entries (if palmar is town obv). secondly instead of making a point or joke about metas like he wants to instead he is trying to defer to someone else who historically doesn't like meta reads to shit on them for him. what point does this have? what does this serve? it gains us nothing and loses us information. if you want to make jokes about meta and shit on meta then just do it instead of trying to bring someone else in.

4) then the smiley at the end just so everyone knows it was all a joke.....sight.

that said disfo's enthusiasm, tone, and filter length indicates he is town. but some of his posts are turds. so he is neutral, but i know myself; certain people and the way they play the more i read of their posts the more i am gonna wanna lynch them for the way they post/talk/act/type; regardless of its bearing on their alignment. the posts were bad, they were net negative posts regardless of his alignment, and he shouldn't post like that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:15 GMT
#313
On February 04 2016 18:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 18:51 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:43 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:41 ritoky wrote:
does knowing this is his 3rd game ever change your opinion of any of this rels?

Talking about darth right ? No. Why should it ?


yes it should inform your read to some degree at least in terms of tone considering this is his first non-student game.

So does darth being a noob makes this a little less scum indicative ?
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 18:33 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:04 darthfoley wrote:
I am here, and ready to things

I have a bad feeling about this post.
Here are his first posts almost 2 hours before:
On February 04 2016 08:13 darthfoley wrote:
hello all, i am here

On February 04 2016 08:16 darthfoley wrote:
roger that Gold leader

So here is what darth did:
1 - enter the thread "I am there"
2 - shit post
----- 2 hours pass -------
3 - enter the thread "I am there"

I don't like this repetition. There is no excuse in the first posts, like "I'll be there in 2 hours I'm working right now". It also happens 20 minutes after being called out by disfo for being there and not doing anything.
This might be indicative of scum wanting to enter the thread early just to show he's there while not doing anything; but after being called out for doing exactly that, coming back to show he's playing the game seriously.

I think it's more likely that scum would enter the thread, do nothing, then enters the thread again when called out than a town.
I think it's more likely that noob scum would enter the thread, do nothing, then enters the thread again when called out than a noob town.


keep pushing your read on him. i am particularly interested in it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:16 GMT
#314
On February 04 2016 19:14 Palmar wrote:
I also think my current vote is well placed and I invite more people to join the justice wagon.


did you take my advice and vote on jat?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:20 GMT
#317
On February 04 2016 19:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:14 Palmar wrote:
I also think my current vote is well placed and I invite more people to join the justice wagon.


did you take my advice and vote on jat?

indeed

also he has not said anything smart yet, which might be alignment neutral for him, but he has also not said anything he himself believes to be smart, which might be scummy.


how did you read his restraint when i was poking him with a stick? indicative in any way?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:21 GMT
#318
On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat?


nope not yet.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:31 GMT
#323
On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time.


i am probably going to sleep in the next couple hrs and that was where i planned to place my vote. marv hasn't met his quota yet.

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:48 GMT
#341
On February 04 2016 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:45 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

is it me or does this post not make any sense?

he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me

?

This post makes perfect sense to me. Scum tries to play like they would as town, so not everything that scum is writing is scummy.

no Rels

Palmar: "bf is going after disfo"
marv: "er, no he isn't, he's going after ritoky"


wat...palmar's next post is literally: "by he i mean ritoky"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:51 GMT
#346
that was surprisingly bad from marv lol.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 10:54 GMT
#353
On February 04 2016 19:51 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:51 ritoky wrote:
that was surprisingly bad from marv lol.

he's sort of rusty and bad by now.

although confirmed town because game still going.


this is somewhere between a sick burn and a truth bomb.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:01 GMT
#360
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:02 GMT
#364
On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit


says the guy who "gives up after 50 words"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:03 GMT
#367
On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter?

i've read the thread


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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:04 GMT
#370
do you guys really want me to go back to a 70-30 gifs to words posting style?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:06 GMT
#374
On February 04 2016 20:05 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:10 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:55 boxerfred wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:47 ritoky wrote:
you don't have time to read the thread, only time to skim a couple pages, but then you have enough time to type a multi-paragraph case on someone? mhmmmm.

i don't even understand your post. why does anything you said make me mafia? especially considering you have 0 context for any of it.

"ritoky interacts with a ton of people"? what does this even mean for a reason? i ask questions and push for reads and thus am mafia? likewat?

I read the thread fully. Maybe the word I use is bad: "skim". I think it means that I've read the thread, however I didn't put too much emphasis on everything but instead concentrated on what feels important to me, which in this case would be the interaction between you and disformation.

How do you not understand my post? here's a tl;dr: you make up reasons to call disfo's post shit. I have all context for it that I need Oo, the context of the interaction.

Regarding the interaction with others: you don't push for reads, you ask random questions to seemingly push for reads imho. You do not follow up, only if you're forced to (as you were when someone asked why you call disfo's post shit). I don't think that's town indicative. Even now you don't reasonably argue why what I say is wrong, instead you say "I dont understand, you lie". The only real argument you say is the last one, and it's a weak one so far.


because i think there is a problem in translation here is why i don't understand it. i called his post bad because it is bad. but bad does not necessitate mafia. it is a poor post regardless of alignment and i am undecided on his alignment partially because it was so bad. here's what his post did in an expanded version:

1) contrary to what a lot of coaches teach these days about keeping the thread updated on when you're leaving, what you're doing, etc; i find that shit to rub me the wrong way and just be a pile of "notice how much extra i care everyone". maybe that's residual shit from when BH owned me by faking he was moving, but it always reads scummy to me.

2) he then says "oh i almost forgot". this implies that the thought he had while in bed on his phone was so important that he had to post from a state of inconvenience in order to notify the thread of what it was. now this is crap already cuz the game is 5 hrs old, but i will entertain it. however he then addresses nocturnemage who hasn't posted at this point with his post......something super important but directed at a person with 0 posts.

3) firstly he is giving NM a free entry into the thread, when mafia often times find entries particularly difficult and you have players like me and like palmar in the game who are quite good at spotting bad entries (if palmar is town obv). secondly instead of making a point or joke about metas like he wants to instead he is trying to defer to someone else who historically doesn't like meta reads to shit on them for him. what point does this have? what does this serve? it gains us nothing and loses us information. if you want to make jokes about meta and shit on meta then just do it instead of trying to bring someone else in.

4) then the smiley at the end just so everyone knows it was all a joke.....sight.

that said disfo's enthusiasm, tone, and filter length indicates he is town. but some of his posts are turds. so he is neutral, but i know myself; certain people and the way they play the more i read of their posts the more i am gonna wanna lynch them for the way they post/talk/act/type; regardless of its bearing on their alignment. the posts were bad, they were net negative posts regardless of his alignment, and he shouldn't post like that.


I mean, okay, you elaborated on your first explanation on why disformation's post was shit, okay, granted. But I can't find new information in that huge chunk. You basically repeat what you said the first time already. And I don't understand why you go at him so hard yet refrain from a scum read! You basically say "well guys, he's so bad, here is reason #1-#5, and yeah, I'm going to ignore him" - why don't you just say "well boxerfred is bad, I'm going to ignore him"? Instead you even defend your points although that doesn't make sense, since he's a - what, a town read of yours? I don't understand this.


because in my heart i am an educator, i want people to get better; people won't learn to rid themselves of terrible play or bad habits unless they are informed otherwise or punished for them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:17 GMT
#384
On February 04 2016 20:12 Palmar wrote:
it's still a bit weird, sort of reminds me a of a guy called dropbear from way back whose mafia tell would be to write long rambling posts on multiple people where he painted everything they did as scummy


if you actually think i am scum, then i might have to start spamming lynch palmar.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:19 GMT
#387
boxerfred, you're wrong. move on.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 11:27 GMT
#393
it's alright dude, you can tunnel me all day 1, then when i get shot night 1 you'll realize you're wrong, then day 2 everyone will lynch you because you've been so wrong and talked about literal nothing else in your filter and have no leg to stand on in defense of yourself.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 22:32 GMT
#676
On February 05 2016 07:24 Damdred wrote:
I have a list of 4-6 people

Moosey
Nm
Palmar
Zy
Kush
Onegu

I probably would take palmar out for today because a few things made me go maybe palmar is town. But pretty under whelming to a point.

And I understand the rest are a mix of policy, I'd rather not lynch kush today probably.

If I had to lynch just one person I'd policy zyrre for faking excitement about being town and not doing anything in that time. The others can be good as town and in some cases should be given time.


why 1gu? and thoughts on VA?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 22:47 GMT
#680
On February 05 2016 07:46 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 07:12 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 03:07 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 05 2016 02:12 Koshi wrote:
On February 05 2016 02:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush

Best lynch by far.


I'm not a bad lynch

Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts.

Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia.

not sure it makes him more likely mafia, but i definitely don't think it's townpoints either


agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment.
Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2.

Pretty sure this is a lie. You also claimed in the thread you didn't know mafia could frame themselves as mafia framer, while arguing mafia probably framed town, while town had a redcheck on a townie.
+
Not doing anything is your scum meta while you multiple times said in previous games that you enjoy playing town and that you cba to ever play mafia. And now you are not enjoying the game and you don't want to play till D3.

=

You are mafia.


i think it's safer to wait for d2 to see if I care. Beacuse on d1, I can care as mafia or not care as town. That's just a tip, not a plea to not lynch me today. I really wouldn't mind getting lynched.

LOL koshi remember I told you I would have framed whatshisname and you were like "no u wouldn't" but I was mafia and i did. that was classic.

Right now I'm not in a mindstate to enjoy this game as town or mafia. I was thinking about outing but it was too late. I was thinking about replacing, but I don't have a good excuse. I'd just afk but I don't want to do sitouts. And it amuses me mildly to troll you guys.

This is also bullshit. You joined the game 11 hours before it started.
I think you are scum playing the "I don't care about this game" card.


I started to want to out after I had inned. The game was gonna start in a few hours. It's not totally logical I admit.


does your current play have to do with playing 2 games at once or not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 04 2016 22:58 GMT
#687
On February 05 2016 07:57 Chezinu wrote:
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come and help Chez
He needs you to talk
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